@jonsblond I apologize, if I have ever given you the impression that I feel you are a negative person, or anything but a respected Fluther Buddy.
I’m sorry I don’t believe in fate.
One need not believe in fate.
Sometimes, fate believes in us.
I’ve heard theists say things like “God will only meet you half way.” The inference, of course, is that one has to pull their weight in making positive changes. And then God will somehow match your contributions.
I was an agnostic, before I was an atheist. A Baptist, before that. So. I am not SO removed from the concept of fate.
My problem with “fate,” is the pre-determined part.
That, to me, contradicts reality.
The concept of fate, also contradicts the way believers behave. For instance, if something is fated by God to happen, why does he need your money, or votes?
If there is a “God(s),” and they have complete control, then God’s will cannot be changed.
The way things happen, is (to vastly oversimplify,) like a billiard table.
One “event” occurs, sending into motion an almost countless chain reaction of other “events.”
The opening break, randomly scatters the balls. There are 6 pockets. Sometimes, a ball,
or two, will go into a pocket.
If we’re playing 8 Ball, the balls are divided into “stripes and solids.” The person who breaks, takes the type of ball that went in on the break, or if no balls go in, they can choose (based on the result of the new locations of all the balls) which type they want. If both types go in, still the choice of the person who broke.
The idea, is to sink all of your type of balls first, so that you can target the “neutral” 8 ball to win by hitting that into the “called” pocket.
The players take turns.
The “cue” ball, needs to be hit into another ball, to move it.
Each time a player takes a shot, they change the table (circumstances.)
Based on skill, physics, and many variables, someone will win. In 8 Ball, if you scratch (hit the cue into a pocket whilst trying to win the game sinkingthe 8,) you loose automatically.
So sometimes, the player doing the best, will lose in the end.
The outcomes are countless, regarding the combination of circumstances that lead to each shot taken, and hit or missed.
The players decide which balls to target, and when. But really can only attempt to control the physics of the balls they are trying to get in. No matter how careful one person is, the other player can drastically change the table at any time.
Each reset of the table, leading to different strategies by the players, and the results of the balls hitting each other and the chaos that ensues, constantly changes the circumstances.
Some players speak of good, or bad luck.
A simple game of pool, is actually immensely complicated as far as the many different events and outcomes.
I’m not even getting into how the time-line is effected, for the players. One may have lost money, changing the way they will make all kinds of decisions for the next few days. The winner, with more money, also may act differently for a while.
The winner may take an Uber home, instead of the bus, because they could afford to after the winnings. But. The person is more likely (statistically,) to be killed in a car accident, than a bus accident.
And each person, is a billiard ball, causing others to be effected by the way the interact.
The planets, meteors, comets, stars, etc, ALL are reacting to whatever the first “event” was.
At this point in time, scientific research mostly supports a “big bang,” that let’s say for discussion’s sake, was the opening break for the universe.
However. I AM a pessimist person. Not by choice, per say.
But. I have learned to appreciate the little things. And I have learned that a LOT of little things, are actually huge to me.
I believe/hope, that I can continue to grow to appreciate the good things, more than the bad things that caused them.
If you one doesn’t learn to ride the tide and enjoy, rather than fight the current, they will drown in this world.
To me, “God” is love.
You have a good heart, filled with love. And as I deliberately said, you are ”wise” enough, to see things from the best vantage. I don’t believe you give yourself enough credit.
Most theists don’t.
I see it in sports all the time.
An athlete who thanks God, because they practiced, worked out, and maximized their potential, is a choice. God didn’t loft weights for them. He didn’t set their alarm earlier than everyone else. He didn’t watch tape/study, or refine and perfect ANYTHING. The athlete did it ALL.
In this case. Love met you, half way. And you are wise enough, to adapt to your circumstances and see the positive side of what is really a dichotomy.