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In the 30s and 40s, were the media and politicians ever accused of having "Hitler Derangement Syndrome"?

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Tropical_Willie's avatar

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No they weere supporting him because WWI was a loss for Germany. They didn’t care who died.

smudges's avatar

^^ The media and politicians were supporting Hitler?? Throughout WWII?? I don’t believe it. Based on the definition, I don’t understand your answer. It means someone is against Hitler. What does WWI have to do with anything?

Derangement Syndrome refers to an extreme, almost irrational anger or frustration. It is often applied to strong negative reactions to a specific politician, where opposition becomes an obsession, leading to illogical and emotionally charged actions. The term suggests that a political opponent is incapable of accurately perceiving the world.

Forever_Free's avatar

TDS is a thing. Orange Hair man bad.
Not sure if there was HDS back then. Typically those who had it were jut eliminated first.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

@smudges I’ll go with this:

“In the aftermath of World War I, Germans struggled to understand their country’s uncertain future. Citizens faced poor economic conditions, skyrocketing unemployment, political instability, and profound social change. While downplaying more extreme goals, Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party offered simple solutions to Germany’s problems, exploiting people’s fears, frustrations, and hopes to win broad support.”
https://www.ushmm.org/learn/holocaust/aftermath-of-world-war-i-and-the-rise-of-nazism-1918-1933

MrGrimm888's avatar

I wouldn’t think so.

There were plenty of really bad leaders back then.

I don’t think most of the world really knew what Hitler was really doing, until we started pushing closer to Germany, and soldiers were just discovering things like his death camps.

Since Trump’s own VP candidate likened Trump to Hitler, I am having trouble with the “derangement” part.

Almost ALL of Trump’s advisors, have had nothing good to say about him.

Hitler WAS extremely close to Stalin, before Hitler invaded Russia.

Trump IS close to Putin.

Overall. I think there was only one Hitler.

But. Because of Trump’s ties to white supremacist groups, and his dehumanizing rhetoric, he will likely always be somewhat linked to Hitler.

hat's avatar

Democrats’ criticism of Trump is Coke complaining that Pepsi has too much sugar.

flutherother's avatar

The closest I have come to “Trump Derangement Syndrome” was remarks made by Joseph Goebbels in a speech delivered on 31 December 1938 where he denounces those who failed to share his faith in Adolf Hitler.

“This ability to believe is rather weak in some circles, above all in those with money and education. They may trust more in pure cold reason than a glowing idealistic heart. Our so-called intellectuals do not like to hear this, but it is true anyway. They know so much that in the end they do not know what to do with their wisdom. They can see the past, but not much of the present, and nothing at all of the future. Their imagination is insufficient to deal with a distant goal in a way such that one already thinks it achieved.

They were also unable to believe in the victory of National Socialism while the National Socialist movement was still fighting for power. They are as little able today to believe in the greatness of our national German future. They perceive only what they can see, but not what is happening, and what will happen.

That is why their carping criticisms generally focus on laughable trivialities. Whenever some unavoidable difficulty pops up, the kind of thing that always happens, they are immediately inclined to doubt everything and to throw the baby out with the bath water. To them difficulties are not there to be mastered, but rather to be surrendered to.

One cannot make history with such quivering people. They are only chaff in God’s breath. Thankfully, they are only a thin intellectual or social upper class, particularly in the case of Germany. They are not an upper class in the sense that they govern the nation, but rather more a fact of nature like the bubbles of fat that always float on the surface of things.

One does not need to take them all that seriously. They do not like us, but they do not like themselves any better. Why should we waste words on them? They are always living in the past and believe in success only when it has already happened, but then waste no time in claiming credit for it.

The people want nothing to do with these intellectual complainers. The year 1938 was filled with great and sometimes unnerving tension. But they are delighted at the close of this year with the Führer’s great historical successes.”

smudges's avatar

@Tropical_Willie I still don’t understand why you say that politicians and the media were supporting Hitler, unless you’re referring to the media and politicians in Germany, but it doesn’t say that in the question.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Yes it is Germany media and politicians that pushed him to the head of German government !

@ragingloli is in Germany . . . . . therefore . . . the focus of the Q is GERMANY !

MrGrimm888's avatar

Hitler action had a very hard time, usurping the country from the old school German leaders.

Hitler was often made fun of, because he had very poor table manors. He was considered low class, and indeed WAS homeless for a spell.

His lies of capturing enemy soldiers by himself in WWI, and his dehumanizing of those who weren’t pure Aryans got him really far with the majority of Germans at the time.

This is where the Trump stuff comes in.
They are both habitual liars. They both are narcissists, with delusions of grandeur.
Neither of them actually fought, for their country.
As Hitler had no class, Trump is infamous for eating like a child, and often throwing his plates of McDonald’s and ketchup on Whitehouse walls.
Both used dehumanizing rhetoric, to aid in giving their followers a common enemy.
Both believe that the white Christians, are victims.
Observing Trump’s speeches, one could hardly blame someone for thinking maybe Trump is trying to emulate Hitler.

The only real difference is that Trump (and his sheep,) are scared of brown people.
Hitler’s sheep, turned their impotent fury onto the Jews.

If Trump wasn’t stopped, he would have eventually had camps of brown people all over. We know he was deliberately separating families, and treating immigrants like animals. Or as Trump calls them; “vermin.”

One only discredits themselves, by not seeing the glaring similarities.

And AGAIN, Vance was making Hitler comparisons to Trump.

Trump clearly desires to be a fascist god-like tyrant. Even Hitler kept that to himself.
Hitler was a self proclaimed hero of the average German.
Trump has made it clear that HE is the smartest, best business man, and doesn’t need advice from people like Fauci, or his Generals.

The biggest thing, is we have history, to judge Hitler by.

Trump has not relinquished the world from HIS presence yet. So. It’s hard to judge him like Hitler.
But there is PLENTY, to be scrutinized.

smudges's avatar

@Tropical_Willie I thought the focus of the question was the 1930s & 1940s and Hitler. Of course I know @ragingloli is in Germany. Just trying to clarify a response I didn’t understand.

elbanditoroso's avatar

They didn’t call it derangement syndrome, but there were certainly populations, notably in Great Britain and in France, who could see exactly what Hitler was planning. There was a smaller number of people in the United States that were also warning of what Hitler was doing. But keep in mind that in the US there was the neutrality act which meant that the US could not get involved until or unless it was attacked.

And it took until Pearl harbor day for the US to finally declare war on both Japan and Germany.

In the US, then as now, there was a powerful number of people that thought that the United States should not have a worldview and should only concentrate on what was going on inside the United States. The problem was that in world war II that insular point of view came back to bite Us in the ass.

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