Will progressives follow Bernie’s advice regarding voting in 2024?
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I was watching Bernie in an interview about Gaza and at the end of the interview it turned to moving the US towards progressive policy and the upcoming election. This Q is about the upcoming presidential election, Bernie looks almost surprised when he is told some progressives will sit the vote out.
Here’s the video, you can fast forward to minute 19:00 to start after the Gaza discussion and he begins to go into money in politics and then how to move the progressive ideas forward and voting. Around minute 22:40 they specifically talk about voting and Bernie falling in line with corporate Democrats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bb04MsmzcI&t=1333s
We have some progressive jellies and I am sure many of you know people in real life who love Bernie and so I am wondering if Bernie will have any impact on people wanting to show their rejection of Trump and Kamala by not voting.
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Sorry, I can take Bernie only in very small doses, and 3½ minutes of him blathering was just too much for me.
But what I did hear was a rehash of the same 1970s unrealistic gibberish that he has been spouting for years. “the most progressive congress we have ever had” is one of the things he said. The problem is that they are one of the least successful congresses, as well. Idealism is wonderful, but results are better.
Bernie or not, sitting out the vote is just stupid. It only helps Trump.
Some will and some won’t, I’m sure but I hope most realize that defeating a fascist while continuing to fight for progressive ideas is the best route.
What I always find confusing about this is that from what I understand, and from past history, it doesn’t matter how we vote, it matters how the Electoral College votes.
@jca2 The electors usually vote with the majority in the state.
@JLeslie I get it but apparently it didn’t happen with Hillary.
@jca2 It did. The states voted with the majority in each state. The problem is all of the electoral votes in each state go to the one candidate. A few states allow proportional electoral representation. Meaning if the state has 5 votes and 60% of the population votes for the Republican, 3 electors could vote for the Republican and 2 for the Democrat, but even in those states they often give all votes to the will of the majority.
Unless states have fake alternative electors, which is what Trump and his maniacs tried to do.
^^Right?! I still can’t understand how they would actually get away with it. They would have to kidnap the real electors.
Last time didn’t they try to put in fake electors to overrule the real ones?
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Yes, and they were counting on Pence to do the overruling.
That is why they are calling him a traitor now, because he refused to do it.
In politics it usually comes down to voting for the least bad candidate. Not voting achieves nothing as I’m sure most voters realise.
Some voters think that their not voting sends a message. In actuality, that allows incumbents to ignore them.
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