What changes will the Republicans pass now that they run everything?

They will do their best to erase the existence of transgender people.

Us disabled people are screwed.

All females, will be required to be on leashes, and have a male escort to be in public.

Trump has been given the powers of a king, so it will be hard for me to be surprised by much. Boebert was reelected…

They’ll probably just cut taxes on the rich and not much else.

@Kropotkin Sane people would hope that but he has no “guard rails” and will strike back at his “enemies” and middle class will get screwed.

I predict the stock market will get hit with a downturn in January or before.

Tariffs will drive inflation and Trump doesn’t care or understand economics.

@Tropical_Willie “I predict the stock market will get hit with a downturn in January”
I don’t think so, it’s going to soar, and not for good reasons.

Once the tariffs, increased taxes and dropping support in Europe (they are against his BFF Putin) kick in; things will change . . . not for the better !

I think they’re going to want to reach out to Democrats to try to understand their views on different points of policy and form a grand bargain that unites all Americans.

Oh, right, only Democrats do that so they can avoid having to implement the policies they campaigned on but get paid not to do.

I’m also wondering if the Republicans will cut massively everywhere, from social programs, to Israel and Ukraine, to balance the budget. Some might agree with the plan, and others not.

Also Trump’s 10% tariffs on all imports.

Netanyahu and Zelensky will be kissing his ass now because they know they’re at his mercy

I just Googled usa tarrifs, and only import tarrifs are aloud in the constitution. No export tariffs permitted.

Despite Trump being elected the world will continue to get warmer, only more so.

Wow, the TDS starts up again! Realistically, I think the Repubs are a whole different party from what they’ve been over the past 40 years. I think they will start oil production again, open up land for drilling and they will support fracking. I think they will actually shut down the border and they SHOULD revise immigration policies to help keep it shut. I think they will likely start a program for deportation of criminal illegals. They will likely come up with some plan for letting non-criminal immigrants that entered the country illegally to petition to stay here legally, though I don’t know what that will look like. They will start looking at efficiency in the federal government and cutting out a lot of the fat. They will work with the states to move many functions of the Fed to the states. There will be major efforts to stop the war in Ukraine and all the stuff in the ME.

^The election is over, you don’t HAVE to constantly lie about the “good” Trump will do…

@MrGrimm888 Good morning to you, too! The question was what changes the Repubs will make. It is total speculation on anyone’s part and as such is opinion. Are you saying I don’t believe what I wrote? You know me better than that.

^Nah. I think I know you just fine.

You can drop the act. It’s your country now.

I read that Trump is distancing himself from RFK. I haven’t read this entire article:
https://www.aol.com/news/trump-campaign-quietly-distances-itself-144333945.html

@jca2 That’s his calling card. Trump leaves a lot of carnage in his wake and we’ll likely see much of this in the next four years.

Close the border, deport criminal illegals, clean up our FDA, Houthis already negotiating a ceasefire, Zelensky will be cut off the purse, cut taxes for seniors, etc..
Not sure why some of you are so worried about trans issues, none of us care what you adults do just leave minors out of it. Too much drama and false narratives, it sounds really unhinged some of these imaginary scenarios.

Well, one thing is not going to change: unconditional military aid for Israel. No matter who won, more Palestinians were going to die. Kamala promised to be “lethal”, Netanyahu knows that Trump is his closest ally. The genocide will go on.

An end to the Ukraine War is more likely, and that I support. It is a stalemate. We’ve sent billions worth of weapons to no meaningful gains on the Ukrainian side. A negotiated end to the war is the only way to stop more people being sent into the meat-grinder. But the Middle East is going to continue to suffer. Neither party has any regard for Palestinians.

Also, what @Kropotkin said. Tax cuts for the wealthy will be a priority and will probably be Trump’s most notable legacy.

Deport. ALL people of color (going to cost tens of billions to do that), the only way he can be sure of deport illegals is deport all of them that are brown skinned. I’m going to be pissed if he sends my cardiologist back to India. In my county, which is heavy agriculture, 90 % of the crops are picked by people of color (most are here on work Visas), that will only up the prices of agriculture

Zelensky will be cut-off, so will NATO and Putin will be Poland and elsewhere in a New York second.

Cut taxes to billionaires like before and jack up prices by imposing tariffs on ALL imported items, on a sliding scale some 10% and some 100% like Chines EVs.

@Demosthenes I dont believe Trump will continue to support Israel long tbh. As soon as Trump won ceasefire talks by the Houthis started. They all know he doesnt play from his last term. Bibi, Putin, Zelensky they all know. Friend or foe, we the people come first.

I’ll believe it when I see it. I’m more likely to believe what he says about Ukraine, but Israel is a longtime ally, and we’ve done little to rein them in or place any limits on what we give them in recent history. I’ll give him credit when it happens. But not yet.

Trump’s focus has always been domestic. I’m interested to see what will happen with Israel though. I don’t think they can count on aid from the US like they have been getting.

Didn’t Trump tell Bibi to “finish the job”? Palestinians bombed to hell, new Trump resort on the West Bank.

As for Israel, I don’t believe Trump will cut off Israel. He has already shown way too much support for them…moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, initiating the Abraham Accords…these are not the actions of someone that is going to leave them in the lurch. I believe he will continue where he left off with the Abraham accords and will likely go back to sanctions on Iran. Hopefully that isn’t too late and they aren’t a nuclear power now.

It’s also that, even if Trump himself is not keen on continued funding for a war abroad, his cabinet picks the last time around were very much in the neoconservative war hawk vein, and I’m not confident it will be different this time. The name Brian Hook is already being floated for State Department, and he is a Bush II-era relic who will certainly push for continued military aid to Israel and a tougher stance on Iran. As long as Trump can claim that no wars started while he was president, that is likely good enough for him.

That said, a Trump administration by definition is a bit of a wild card (more so than a Kamala administration would have been, at least), so it remains to be seen.

@Demosthenes I think there is a difference from last time. During his interview on the Joe Rogan podcast he was asked about his first days in office and what it was like. He had to make some 10,000 appointments…something like 100 major ones and then more that those people recommended. He didn’t know anyone in DC, he was an outsider. But there were people he knew somewhat and felt they were okay. Those people would recommend others for positions and Trump just trusted them. Many of those were horrible people and Trump ended up getting rid of them. This time around he knows what to expect and has likely been thinking about it for quite some time.

There might be people that are nominated that are not what Trump wants. That is a given and I think every POTUS faces that. But Trump is pretty solid on his vision for what he wants. If he is looking for peace in the ME and his state department head is pushing for war in the ME, that is a big change and no one Trump will accept quietly. We all know Trump is not a quiet kinda guy.

@KNOWITALL Please educate yourself. https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/final-pre-election-2024-anti-trans?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1ivdWAZSO8DD6958SoH_kW0FASTQ9-P-2BX1U8reqve4_3WfqDSkCOwhA_aem_ko5scXh0GJ3cI7vEaEljAg

The transgender community is frightened. Suicide hotlines are being shared. People are looking to move for safety. You are clueless.

@jonsblond What are the transgender communities frightened of? Are they afraid that people will be able to openly voice an opinion about transgenderism without fear of being called a domestic terrorist? As far as I can see, those communities haven’t taken one baby step towards addressing concerns of those that disagree with them, but have relied on shaming and ridiculing them. Some of the Trans community are viewed as predators of little kids. But those concerns are just called lies and hate speech, without really addressing them in any rational way. So what exactly are they afraid of?

@seawulf575: ”So what exactly are they afraid of?”

you

Sorry @seawulf575, but that’s quite silly. By that logic, the fact that some right wingers are viewed as Nazis who want to put non-white people in concentration camps needs to be addressed by them rationally rather than brushed off as unfair judgment and hatred.

If it’s fair for LGBT people to be viewed as pedophiles until they prove that they aren’t, it’s fair for right-wingers to be viewed as Nazis until they prove that they aren’t.

@jonsblond The medical care and ids, I do think are legitimate issues and Im glad I know now.
This is discrimination.
For future reference, people listen more and can feel empathy when we know real facts. Now I understand your concerns.

@KNOWITALL There’s a lot I didn’t understand even recently about being trans, and there’s still aspects of it that I may not fully understand on account of simply not being able to relate, but I think there’s a difference between say, wanting to know what kind of treatments minors receive, what puberty blockers do, and what minors should be able to legally choose in regard to this, than simply labeling trans people as predators who want to perform unnecessary surgery on your kids. There’s room for discussion, but only if it’s in good faith. And so much of it is isn’t, which is why the response can be combative from the start.

I was glad to hear Jerome Powell said he will not step down even if Trump asks him, and Trump has no power to make him leave.

@hat Then they are fearing needlessly. I don’t give two hoots about what someone wants to do when they are adults. I disagree with wanting to transition children before they are capable of fully understanding all the implications of their choices. I believe it is criminally evil to try pushing transitioning on small children and trying to keep the parents out of the decision making loop. Now, if all that says you should be scared of me, then I would suggest that you have a whole lot more wrong than anything I might think about you.

I’m with @Demosthenes on this as are most people, even a large number of people who voted red.

@Demosthenes I get that argument fully. But here’s the difference: we right wingers will talk about the worries you folks bring about us. There are indeed some that would want to put non-white people into concentration camps. I think you would find that subset of people to be extremely small.

Here’s where a lot of those things come from: misinformation. Or even flat out lies. This gets back to the Charlottesville Lie discussion. You know: “Trump said Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists are very fine people!” That was something that Trump said that the media rewrote to make a narrative that would slam Trump. I have posted the entire press conference transcript numerous times and even highlighted the point where he says he specifically NOT talking about those people and that they could be condemned entirely. Yet there are some on the left that don’t want to accept the facts. So they continue to push the lie.

The point is, when claims like the one you just made are brought out, right wingers like me are willing to listen and find the truth and then react to that truth. I don’t accept interpreted takes on things, I want to hear what is said in full, who said it, what they said, what the context was, etc. If, for instance, I found that some fool actually said that, I’d tell you I felt he was a horrible person and I would not support such a move. If, on the other hand, it was something like “We need to round up all the illegal immigrants, detain and deport them” that is a far cry from “We want to put them into concentration camps!”. I believe you would agree with me, since you seem to have a good head on your shoulders.

As for the LGBTQ+ community being viewed as pedophiles, that is a huge distortion. I personally don’t believe it is all of that community. But you agree that there are some that are pushing trans onto children and there have been efforts to exclude parents from any decisions and even criminalizing them if they dare to disagree with what is being done to their child.

It does seem that there are many that are working diligently to traffic little children into slave labor and sex trade. However from what I can tell that is not the LGBTQ+ community at all. When you look at the Epstein case and the Diddy case, the major offenders seem to be the elites of our society, be it Hollywood elites or political elites. And I am a firm supporter of taking those people to jail for as long as the law will allow.

You are correct in what you responded to @KNOWITALL when it comes to having conversations that are in good faith. That is sort of what I started with @jonsblond. She claims the Trans community is frightened. So the first logical question is “What are they frightened of?” And when asking that question is met with ridicule and attacks, that isn’t a good faith conversation. Which is pretty much what I told @jonsblond as well: the trans community doesn’t want to talk, they want to demand and they want to ridicule and they want to attack anyone that dares to not offer total support.

But you agree that there are some that are pushing trans onto children and there have been efforts to exclude parents from any decisions and even criminalizing them if they dare to disagree with what is being done to their child.

There may be, but it’s not a definitive statement I could make at this time, because as you said, I would need to see specific examples and evaluate them closely and judge whether this is actually what is occurring. Certainly I do not agree with those who would do this. I think that any time a minor shows signs of being trans, great caution needs to be taken, and much discussion needs to happen between a child, a parent, and a doctor. I know a few trans people in my life—all of them didn’t begin their transition until they were adults, even though the signs were there before then. Though I understand it to not have been due to opposition or hostility to it from parents, but rather due to not fully knowing what was going with them until much later, which is often the case with young people. (One, for example, simply thought she was effeminate and gay throughout her teen years. It was only after around the age of 20 that she realized she was trans. Years later she lives her life as a woman, and I frankly don’t think of her as any other way). Even I went through a “girls’ clothes” phase as a young boy. It was something I did in private, and it was very much temporary, but it would’ve been wrong for anyone to take that as definitive proof of being trans and run with it. These things take time to figure out.

So yes, it is not unreasonable to want to be careful about what happens to children. Being trans is different from being gay. We’re talking about something that involves hormonal or surgical treatment, which being gay does not. But the key is always to listen—to the child, to the parent, to the doctor, to other trans people. To use the right-wing example, I know people who voted for Trump, and many did so for economic reasons, and I would obviously never consider them Nazis. And I know that because I talked to them and listened to what they had to say. If you don’t engage, your assumptions and biases can run wild.

Anyway, I did not want to make this thread a trans discussion, but it came up, and this is what I have to say.

^As I said, You have a good head on your shoulders.

It is a delicate subject especially when the issue involves minors, parental consent ans as was recently pointed out by Chyna, the AMA says gender dysmorphia is a medical condition.

That being said, I think most conservatives believe prisoners and illegal immigrants could be exceptions to taxpayer funded gender transitions. Listen, its a lucrative business so I get the push, but we have to COMPROMISE on a solution. Not every issue has to be all or nothing. Some of these decisions aso appear to be state issues not federal, like Texas.

Definately needs more discussion and education. Thanks.

Update The election is not over. They still need to decide who wins the House.

@KNOWITALL I apologize for being rude earlier. This directly involves a family member and I’m terrified. The only other time I’ve felt this type of grief is when my mother died but I knew that was going to happen. I’m experiencing stages of grief and I’m lashing out. I’m sorry.

Also maybe the Senate is undecided still.

@seawulf575 children cannot transition medically without parental consent. Welcoming schools will allow students to go by their preferred name and gender without parental consent, but that’s it. When my trans son was 13 and came out to us, we lived in a very rural farming community. The children and some teachers bullied my son. A son of a teacher was heard saying my son will never be a “real boy.” Where do middle school kids get these thoughts? From their parents. A school board member told me our family needed Jesus. This is uncalled for. The only transition my son did was wear boys clothes and go by a different name and our community shunned him. He asked for us to take him to the hospital because he was afraid he was going to kill himself. This is when we knew we needed to move to a supportive community so we made that happen. We ended up in Madison, WI and he is now accepted and thriving instead of being dead.

I shared two links that explain IN DETAIL. Please read why the community is frightened.

@jonsblond ” children cannot transition medically without parental consent.” Except states like Washington have passed laws that say they can. They even made sure the health insurance companies cannot refuse to cover them.

I get that people are not always welcoming to kids (or adults) that are transitioning or have transitioned. And yes, people can be cruel. I’m not defending that at all. But think about this from their point of view for a moment. You decided to allow your child to transition. I assume you knew that was a controversial thing when you made that choice. Did you expect everyone everywhere to just embrace that? Accept it despite how they may feel about it? Look I’m a big proponent of being able to disagree without being disagreeable. But having a different opinion is not what I consider disagreeable.

@RedDeerGuy1 they’re not even done counting the votes and I believe there’s going to be an investigation into the very strange numbers. A hand recount at the very least.

@RedDeerGuy1 I believe the Senate is a done deal. Even the one or two remaining races are not enough to push the Dems into a majority. The House is a mathematical possibility, but it would require the Dems to win all remaining contests and some of those that aren’t completely settled are already well in favor of Republicans. So it is likely the House will have a Republican majority, though it will be a slim majority.

@LifeQuestioner Ain’t life grand? When there were “very strange numbers” in 2020, you folks on the left started screaming about Repubs trying to run election interference and being election deniers, blah, blah, blah. Yet you seem to be saying the exact same things that were said then. What changed?

@seawulf575 this is going to be my last response to you on any question because I am sick of your psychopolitical rants. The difference you ask? You guys attempted to cheat in 2020 but still lost. You guys cheated again in 2024 but won this time. I don’t care what you or anybody else has to say in regards to this. All I know is that once the ACA is done I’m dead meat and I’m no longer interested in hearing people that disagree with me. I have harsher things I could say but I’m a Christian and I won’t. Enjoy what you have voted for. Remember, be careful what you wish for.

@LifeQuestioner Yes, I know your views of Republicans in 2020. You had plenty to say about “election deniers” at the time. Now you are doing the exact same thing. You claim “you guys” cheated in this election. Which uber-lefty outlet gave you this narrative? I haven’t heard of any cheating other than the stuff that was found in PA (ahead of the election) and now some stuff in AZ…20,000+ ballots that mysteriously appeared after election day, during the count. There is a lawsuit already started on that one. It was brought by a Republican and since most of the existing leadership of AZ is Dem, I can only imagine it was “you guys” that were cheating there. But it is being addressed. So what are the details that are turning you into that which you despised a few years ago?

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Somebody’s reading comprehension is sadly lacking.

And somebody’s election denial is in full bloom

”...pushing trans onto children.”..
This can’t be meant, as I read it.
Wulf, are you speaking about making children aware of such things, or are you actually thinking that there are liberals in public schools trying to influence a child to “become” transgender?

When I was a boy, sex education, was a hot button issue for conservatives.
The conservative mindset was, if we educated children about sex, the children would have been more likely to partake in sexual activities at an earlier age.
That assumption was incorrect.

Educating children, is what schools are for. If an important subject isn’t covered adequately at home, the child will NEED to have an educator cover the material at some point.

Gender issues, develop sooner than when a child is considered “old enough,” for what some parents may deem appropriate for discussion about it.

With sex Ed, a LOT of parents didn’t feel comfortable having that conversation with their children, and so it was decided that people who specifically teach children should also teach sex Ed. Teachers, are trained to reach after all.

I believe that most efforts in making children aware of “trans” people, is important.
Our society is/was at a point where children will naturally run across such people in their lives.
In that vein, it is only sensible to explain the children’s environment.

I’m actually very conservative, with what I prefer children to be exposed to as well.
One of the biggest problems currently, is that most children (in America,) have some type of internet access.
There is practically no way, of preventing children from at least viewing materials that haven’t even been invented yet.

Since the trans issue was raised, in educational institutions I tried to research it. (I have/had lots of nieces and nephews, in school.)

It’s an issue, that has potentially caused a lot of suicides, and probably violence. It NEEDED to be addressed.
I KNOW that the left went occasionally far, in some liberal cities, but the effort is NOT as one sided as you make it, and you have a habit of being reductive with REALLY important issues for others.
The issue is far more complex, than you understand it to be.

People like you making laws for the LGBTQ + community, is not unlike letting the lefties to make gun laws. There is bound to be inadequacy.

Conservative sheep REALLY showed their ignorance, in this arena. Falling for ridiculous concepts that their prepubescent boy could realistically come home as a little girl.

In this past election, a LOT of people voted against their own interests.
One of those groups, was the massive amount of clearly closeted homosexual men, in the republican party.
I have to watch Lindsay Graham, talk about conservative issues all of the time.
Graham is so obviously a homosexual, that his homo-phobia didn’t make sense until we got to this point.

So. It’s easy to deduce, that Trump owes his office, at least partly, to the LGBTQ + community. As conservative men, who were insecure in their own sexuality, punished women and the LGBTQ + community by voting for Trump.

One cannot legislate, a natural part of the human condition away.

@MrGrimm888 Here’s the problems with your views on this: They aren’t based in reality and they assume the left knows when to stop on an issue. Are schools pushing trans onto kids? Well, here’s a story of parents are suing the school over them helping their 14 year old daughter to transition without their knowledge or consent. Here’s another case where the courts ruled with the school and against the parents over the school’s policy that tells the teachers to help kids set up a plan for establishing their trans identities and specifically omits the parents in the discussions. This is the story of a school that held a drag show for elementary school kids, again without telling the parents about it. The parents got to know about it when they attended and were shocked at what they saw.

So we can safely say my comment was not unreal. It is very real. And these things go well beyond mere education. Educating children shouldn’t include excluding parents. You shouldn’t have to exclude parents. If you feel you need to, then you need to look at what your curriculum is and why it needs to exclude parents from knowing what you are teaching the children.

As for children seeing images, yes there is always the internet. But parents should, can, and do put some limitations on the internet. So they can limit it. A child could see someone in drag at Walmart. Okay, it happens. But these images and chance sightings are not teaching the children to twerk. They aren’t telling the children that they are confused and are actually not cool for wanting to be the gender they were born. There is a huge difference.

Extremists, always do ridiculous things. I count the Drag reading thing, as ridiculous too.

But these ARE still issues that realistically do not negatively affect “regular” children.
I GUARANTEE you more sexual molestation and rape has gone on in religious institutions, than in American learning institutions.
I don’t personally connect ALL religions with pedophilia, and rape. But I can drag 1,000 articles about kids being abused in a religious institution to your evey single story about trans issues negatively affecting children.
I wager a boy being sodomized by a male member of his church is probably more traumatic than seeing a man in drag reading to children.

Yet. I don’t seem to seem to see conservatives making THAT an issue. Hence my constant/accurate mention of your hypocracy.
Trump didn’t tell you, to be afraid to send your kids to Sunday school. Although that would have been the exponentially worse target.

A target, that doesn’t pay taxes either…but I digress.

It IS the job, of educators in America, to serve the students.
If gender confused kids listened to people like you, I can understand why they would kill themselves.

This whole attempt (by apparently just thr left,) was in an effort to help stop children from committing suicide.
As a person whose father unfortunately committed suicide, I would think that you would think more carefully about other’s feelings.

I have no problems believing that certain teachers/counselors may have misinterpreted a small amount of children’s needs and incorrectly guided them.
But you act like these isolated incidents are the norm, when they just aren’t.

NOW I suppose we will tell children to bottle everything up, and especially don’t talk to an adult about problems. Teach them that such feelings are wrong at home, church, and school.
MOST people, just wanted children to be able to have a conversation about gender issues, IF it comes up.
There is indeed a difference in public education, and what parents tell their children.
Statistically, some conservative children, WILL have gender identity issues.
Will it be God’s will, that their children kill themselves, because of what their parents learned from a religious book? (The only book, they’ve EVER read.)

Don’t you dare feign concern for children, when you ignore their needs if they make you uncomfortable.

^Ahh…so I show you how trans is being pushed onto our kids by schools and you can’t just admit you were wrong, you have to try changing topics…again. And old ploy. Yes, kids have been abused by church leaders. That is entirely wrong and those doing it should be punished harshly. But that doesn’t negate the fact that trans ideology is being pushed onto young, impressionable children. As a parent, had my kids’ schools ever done something like that I can tell you I would have taken legal action…just like those parents did in the cases I cited.

It IS the job of educators in America to educate children…period. Not to indoctrinate them, not to push political view points onto them, not to try to get them to transition their gender, not to try alienating children from their parents. And yes, these “isolated incidents” are becoming the norm in left leaning states. They’ve passed laws to allow all this crap including the exclusion of parents in any decision making about their own children. That’s what one of those articles I cited tells us. That is no longer “isolated incidents”...it’s systemic efforts.

And, you pompous fool, I don’t have to feign concern for children. I am concerned for children. I’m also concerned for families. Don’t you feign concern for any of this until you actually have children you have to raise.

^Yawn….

@seawulf575 – I’m not going to argue with indoctrinated bigots about the right of my friends and family to exist. Uneducated people believe that a society and system of indoctrination into current mainstream cultural worldview is not indoctrination. Only those who go against this indoctrination are the people pushing “political view points” onto children.

Your posts can all be read as satire and nothing is lost. They are clear examples of what happens when a culture is so ideologically-pure that it can’t even identify the absurdity of what they are saying. It’s a call for permanent large-scale safe spaces for ideological confused bigots that want to protect their favored status and privilege. It’s also clear that much of it is driven by fear of their own sexuality.

I honestly wish these bigots could live for a year in a slightly-more enlightened area of the country, like Massachusetts. You’d likely be shocked. We’ve had gay marriage since 2004, many of our friends and family are able to safely come out, and everything is normal and healthy. When you talk to kids, they find it odd when older people even make a big deal – even when trying to be “accepting” – of non-hetero relationships or trans men & women.

My youngest son’s classmate transitioned in middle school, and nobody gave a shit. My daughter is dating a trans man, who lived with us this summer. I have gay & bi friends and family, my wife’s cousin transitioned when she was young, by best friend’s cousin transitioned after college, I’ve been to gay weddings, my neighbor friends across the street are two women who just had a baby, etc. And guess what – everything is fine. Nobody was forced to marry their toaster oven, like bigots claimed back in 2004.

You are advocating for people to push their bigot shit onto children and families, which causes sick and dead kids & adults, and causes backwards societies with twisted, closeted, resentful people who want everyone else to be as miserable as they are.

@hat I’m not going to argue about the rights of your friends and family to exist either. What I would argue with is if they were trying to brainwash little kids. You know, make them believe that left is right, up is down, male and female don’t exist, attacking Israel proved Hamas was the oppressed and Israel was the oppressor. And no matter how much you try to dance around the issue, you aren’t going to convince me that any of that is right. If your family and friends want to push gender ideology and gender affirming care onto their kids, that is their choice. When a public entity such as a school pushes it regardless of what parents want and in some cases purposely excluding the parents, I have a real hard spot with that. In my mind that is no different than a pedophile offering candy to a little child to get into the car with them or an Uncle Pervy diddling a small child and telling them not to tell their parents.

Interesting point of view from the Times, regarding where the Dems are now:

the next Democratic leader is going to have to have more than one Sister Souljah moment in order to regain lost trust. When will someone tell college students that it’s appalling and unacceptable to call for Israel’s destruction or be openly sympathetic to Hamas? Or that effectively decriminalizing shoplifting in some blue states is an outrage to public order and an insult to law-abiding people? Or that it is absolutely not OK to have a biological male like the trans swimmer Lia Thomas change in a women’s locker room or for children to begin gender transitions without their parents being notified? Or that we can’t have any kind of immigration reform until there is good control over the border? The Democrat who does these things first is the one who’ll be able to defeat Trumpism.

(the actual article has links to articles detailing the things in the paragraph).

@jca2 It is an interesting point of view. I think it is very accurate. Unfortunately today’s Democratic Party has spent a whole lot of time cultivating all those things. If a candidate came out today to speak out against all of those things, they would not be chosen to be the candidate. They would alienate the entire base of voters they currently have.

@seawulf575 I agree.

I was asked to provide a link to the quote I put in the comment above. The comment is from this article. Here it is: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/11/opinion/trump-harris-republicans-democrats.html?searchResultPosition=2

That’s a lot of misinformation that needs to be cleared up. The Repub owned media is not going to do any of that.

4,000 new bureaucrats on day 2, big donors to his election will be first choices.

Trump will remove two to three times the 4,000. Using Schedule “F” ! Some are already leaving.

Probably EPA, Department of Education and VA will. be hit the hardest. It will be a shit show by February 1st.

@RocketGuy What is “Repub owned media”?

@seawulf575 – just about every media in America: NBC, CBS, ABC, Washington Post, NYT, Fox News, OAN, ...

@RocketGuy Ahhh…so NBC, CBS, ABC, WaPo, NYT are all owned by Republicans?!? Who tell them to fully support only Democrats? That’s odd. The WaPo is owned by Jeff Bezos who is usually on the side of the Democrats. ABC is owned by Disney who is extremely left wing. Most of the ones you mentioned are owned by Democrats or left leaning entities/controllers. Fox tends to be more in the Republican camp as is Newsmax. OAN is really not much of an outlet…right up there with Vox or HuffPo….but is generally well to the right.

But you are right…the “repub owned media” won’t be fixing all the misinformation. It will take the Democrats to fix most of it.

I’m going to comment but then maybe not come back to this thread for a couple days because I know I’m going to get push back from somebody. I just want to say that I think it’s pretty clear what changes Trump is going to make in the days ahead, after he’s inaugurated of course. It’s all been outlined in Project 2025.

@LifeQuestioner You are perfectly free to believe whatever you like. I believe that there will be some major changes coming in the future as well. I’m looking forward to some of them. I don’t know all the changes that will be proposed or made. I’m pretty sure that a lot of those changes will be for the good of all and I’m sure there will be a few that will be stinkers that get changed later. You can believe that Trump is following Project 2025 all you want. I would agree that there will be some things that overlap with that project because they are conservative ideals.

@seawulf575 – 1) those media outlets kept pounding on Biden for being old, then when he dropped out and Trump was the old fogie, age stopped being an issue, 2) Trump rambled nonsensically during his various speeches with minimal media criticism but media coverage on every little gaffe that Biden and Harris made, 3) no media coverage on Biden successes on reining in inflation, 4) no media coverage on how big companies made record profits after raising prices, 5) no media coverage on progress that Harris made on reducing the number of people trying to leave their countries to come here.

Trump will bring pain and revenge to as many as he can, especially if they are – – – poor, brown skinned, female, Muslim, Jew, Democrat and old !

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4966421-trump-revenge-tour-threats/

@RocketGuy 1) those media outlets only pounded on Biden for being old when the Dems wanted him to drop out of the race. Before that he was perfectly fine, age not an issue, no cognitive decline, sharp as a tack. He could do no wrong.
2) How many Trump speeches did you really watch all the way through? I’m betting a grand total of none. But I would lay a shiny dime as a bet that you got all your snippets from some lefty news agency, like the ones I pointed out. And yes, they did “cover” the gaffes of Biden or Harris…to cover for them. To try saying it was a nothing-burger.
3) No media coverage on Biden reining in inflation because he didn’t rein in inflation. He caused it. And they tried really hard to avoid discussing that…you know…covering for the Dems.
4) No media coverage on how big companies made record profits by raising prices because they did that during the pandemic. And it was mainly those companies, like tech companies, who saw a huge increase in the usage of their products. And if you really want to get down to the nitty gritty, it happened after Biden took office. Biden’s policies allowed it to happen and they did nothing about it. So the media wouldn’t want to report it that way, would they?
5) No coverage on Kamala’s efforts to keep people in their own countries because it didn’t work. She supposedly got “commitments” from companies to start building the economies of the few SA countries, but that didn’t really go anywhere. Meanwhile, Biden and Harris effectively invited millions of people to “come on in!”. They moved them all around the country. They gave them more benefits than taxpaying Americans get. And the media tried really hard to avoid discussing these things.

Sorry, hoss, your views are not based in reality. The media in this country is biased. All the media. Fox and Newsmax tend to be conservative and tend to do the same stuff for Trump and the Republicans. I’m not excluding them either. But there are far more lefty outlets than righties.

^Same bullshit, different thread.
I can’t blame you.
You spew all of these lies SO much, I’m sure you can no longer tell what’s real…

@MrGrimm888 You know you are lying. When you think you have a real stand on a topic you write a wall of text and degrade quickly on every topic to “Orange Man Bad”. When you are confronted with facts, you choose to call them lies and call lies facts. I KNOW you cannot tell the difference any longer. That is why I urge you strongly to take many of your interactions on these pages to your therapist to let them see you disconnect with reality.

@seawulf575 – I see you’ve been drinking from the Right Wing spigots.

@RocketGuy No more than you’ve been drinking the Left Wing Kool-aid.

. . . “Trump will bring pain and revenge to as many as he can, especially if they are”. now includes Veteran Health benefits !

https://www.newsweek.com/veterans-health-care-cut-department-government-efficiency-1985641

Especially since he has made negative comments about John McCain being a loser, it shows his attitude toward our heroes.

No Wulf. I just lose interest in typing walls of fact, for you to boo hoo everything as some vast left-wing conspiracy.
You, can’t even admit the things Trump has been recorded saying.
The conspiracy, is working great, right?
Nope. Biden dropped out. The DNC amazingly had NO plan, and I think most of us agree that Harris was too safe, and did not let America get to know her.
Obviously, it was a massive failure, by the dems, to even field a competitor…
Harris may have been great. But we’ll never know now.
It’s unlikely that they’ll run Harris in ‘28, which makes it seem like they didn’t really trust her either.

Dem success w a Black candidate: 1 out of 2. Dem success w a woman candidate: 0 out of 2. There will be no woman candidate in 2028.

@RocketGuy Depends on how the next four years goes. People may run back to blue when they realize the grass is not any greener on the right. Trump just plowed over the traditional Republican party. If things don’t go well it’ll be hard to elect another Republican. They’ll have a bit of an identity crisis on their hands.

@RocketGuy Wrong lesson. The people who didn’t vote for female candidates BECAUSE they were female weren’t going to vote for a male democrat anyways…

How many non-neoliberal women that the establishment didn’t rig the circumstances to coronate as the top of the ticket have there been?

Women candidates have always polled poorly in Primaries.

I think that women have the disadvantage of seeming like a “bitch” sometimes, in a scenario where if a man behaved that way it would be him being “assertive.”

It’s difficult to lump Harris in, with other female candidates, in my mind. As she was seemingly not at all prepared to be suddenly running.

Harris was also a former prosecutor. She wasn’t accustomed to being spoken to, as she was in her rare interviews. To me, it was just a lawyer vibe she had, and I think she was never used to being in the spotlight. She did her job, and supported her president, but was never focused on.
She was a LOT of good, and great things. But she was a stranger…I can’t say, if getting to know her would have helped, but it would have mattered to me.
I thought she should have done a show like Rogan’s. Ideally, she should have done Rogan.
That would have, at least reached a lot of the men that voted…I don’t believe Rogan would have been rude, or anything. He said he was approached over Trump, in 2016, but rejected it.

Ultimately. She was pressed in, and stained with perceived shortcomings of Biden. And the dems….Just shit the bed…....

I keep hearing they didnt think she was strong enough to stand up to the big dictators. I hope to cast a vote for a female President in my lifetime.

But then she’s be a nasty b*****, which no one would vote for.

Harris is (despite Trump having been POTUS before,) exponentially more qualified than Trump for the upcoming 4 years.
His choice of cabinet members, so far, has simply galvanized what his detractors feared. And made his supporters look stupid, by extension. As they so ardently said he was not the type of person who was be simply be picking people for their loyalty. Even Trump’s sheep, should be worried.

I don’t know if Harris would have hired John Oliver, as Secretary of Defense…
I thought Harris would have likely appointed highly experienced people, for her staff. She seemed to actually care about doing the job right…

Harris was qualified, Hillary was qualified. I voted for both because of that. Trump is the opposite of qualified.