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SQUEEKY2's avatar

Trump said he could end the war in Ukraine 24 hours after being elected so the war must be over right?

Asked by SQUEEKY2 (23418points) 11 hours ago

I mean he wouldn’t lie right?

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RedDeerGuy1's avatar

~ He “could”, not “would”.
One needs to read the fine print.
In between the lines.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Ah I see.Thanks.
But I think a lot of people took at it as he would, see the confusion?

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

@SQUEEKY2 Trump uses salesman tactics when speaking. Most ever, best, ...

He, and maybe his supporters know that he is up selling himself, and his plans.

seawulf575's avatar

On the other hand, he has already set up a meeting with Putin who has acknowledged he is willing to discuss an end to the war. That is more than ever got accomplished under Biden who helped start the war. If I remember right, Kamala was tasked with trying to broker a peace treaty between Russia and Ukraine and she never even tried to meet with Putin.

jca2's avatar

What I heard somewhere in the past few days is that a treaty would include Russia getting to occupy a small piece of Ukraine and Zalensky said it would have to include that Russia won’t commit any more aggression to take any other part of Ukraine. Whether or not Russia would keep to their word is another story.

Would Ukraine be mad at the US because the money would be ending, therefore forcing them to agree to a treaty, and losing some of their country? Probably.

What we are seeing now is that there’s no end to the war as it is, and Putin seems to have endless funding to prove his point. It seems there is no good answer. I just googled and the US has sent 176 billion to Ukraine so far.

ragingloli's avatar

By forcing Ukraine to basically capitulate and give Putin everything he wants, in return for security “guarantees” that Russia is going to break in a couple of years time, once it has regenerated its forces sufficiently to launch another invasion from now occupied and fortified Ukranian territories, all the while what remains of Ukraine will be unable/not allowed to rearm to defend itself, both materially and in terms of manpower.
This is what Putin’s “peace offers” have been all throughout this war: non-negotiable maximalist demands of capitulation with no concessions on their part as a prerequisite for even talking about a cease fire, and then putting out the propgaganda through his botnets in the west that Zelensky is “unwilling to negotiate”, when those demands are rightly rejected.

ragingloli's avatar

And then you have to listen to odious creatures like Orangutan Junior saying that Zelensky is afraid of losing is “allowance”.
Pure projection from a nepotism baby that never had to work a day in his life and never cared for anything but his own enrichment, accusing of seeing the colony’s government as a personal piggy bank an actual leader who is currently fighting for his people’s very right to exist.
Meanwhile they have the gall to appoint veritable fraud and illegal immigrant Elon Musk to head the “department of government efficiency”, a man who got a multi billion dollar contract from NASA to build a spaceship for the return to the moon, which was supposed to have done an orbital refuelling test last year, but which to date has only produced 5 smoldering wreckages that were launched without any payload, and a self-landing booster stage that NASA did not ask for. If you want to reduce “government waste”, maybe start with cutting off that guy, instead of putting him in a position where he can steal even more money.

jca2's avatar

@raginglosi Musk is rubbing his hands together with glee, because this is Trump’s time to pay him back for the million dollar payouts he gave to Trump voters.

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