Now that women have some semblance of control of their own bodies again in Missouri, how will the sexist pro-government old white men who want control over women's uteri respond?
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The plan is, and always has been, a federal abortion ban.
All this “states’ rights” nonsense has always been nothing but a pretense, to first destroy the federal right to abortion guaranteed by constitutional SC interpretation, followed by a federal ban once they have the power to do so.
And just as a preview: this is going to be the same play with contraceptives, gay marriage, possibly even interracial marriage, and beyond. Concurrences by conservative justices when Roe was repealed have pretty much announced that.
They have a few pieces of agenda forming to make sure clinics and doctors dont victimize clients ie safe, CLEAN environments, local doctors. Thats why the last clinic closed due to blood and tissue not being cleaned in the St Louis clinic.
Believe it or not some people do want them safe, even if they abhor the process/profit.
They just find other ways to put barriers in place. Mandatory waiting periods. Mandatory ultrasound. Close clinics because their doorway is too narrow. They’ll find new ways too.
It’s like when FL voters approved an amendment to allow people with former felony convictions to be able to vote. The government didn’t like it, so they enacted policy that they had to pay back whatever fees, intimidated them, made things so confusing that people were afraid they’d be arrested if they went to vote. There are a million different strategies to go against the will of the people.
@KNOWITALL I believe you and agree that clean and safe are vitally important.
It’s all for nought, actually. With the Republicans in power, they will now pass a national ban on abortion. So all these people from individual states getting excited about having abortion rights enshrined in their constitutions, or maybe going to lose it anyway.
Although, does having it enshrined in their state constitution overrule and national ban? Maybe somebody can answer that.
They’ll put some obstacles or hurdles if they are not already there, like parental notification for under 18. Also, waiting periods and forcing a girl to have an ultrasound, the typical that has been done for the last 40 years.
Since the people voted it will become less of an issue maybe, because part of the reason for the pro-life fight was to get votes for the Republicans. If they might lose talking about it, they will move onto other topics.
We’ll see if it can get past Trump to do something nationally as @LifeQuestioner has said. Since Roe was overturned I have said in the face of Republicans telling me it is a states’ rights issue that “of course the people at the top of the pro-lifer organizations will go after a national law or ban, don’t be fooled.” If a bill is too radical maybe Trump won’t sign it. We’ll probably get a chance to find out.
@JLeslie ^^^ “If a bill is too radical maybe Trump won’t sign it.” Trump will sign anything that is revenge !
It’s interesting and fitting that the laws in MO were changed. That was, after all, the point of taking control of abortion out of the federal level. Those laws can get changed more easily at the state level AND if you have a majority of people that want change and the state legislature isn’t responsive, you can more easily change them out too.
The other thing I find hilarious is that there are so many that are sure Trump is going to sign a national abortion ban into being. Forget that Trump fought to move control to the states, forget that he has said consistently that he isn’t in favor of a national ban, that he doesn’t want it back at the federal level and that on a personal level he is pretty much in agreement with sane folks when it comes to abortion. None of that is what is so funny, What is funny is that you are afraid of a national ban, but want to put control of abortion back at the national level. I guess the irony is lost on many of you.
@seawulf575 Are you trying to sell that the pro-life movement wanted abortion at the state level so some states can allow abortion until viability? Give me a break. Pro-life wants to stop fetuses from being aborted period. Trump was catering to them.
“Your body, my choice”. White nationalists refrain.
Well. Once Trump is sworn in, ALL men will automatically be considered a licensed Gynecological Doctor.
Remember ladies, “we’re gonna protect women, whether they like it or not.” (D. Trump.)
Why just men? What about the white women who support these white men?
They should tie the tubes of all baby boys and reconnect them when they’re 21. Birth control can and should go both ways.
^^I heard someone else say the same thing last week. Is that some sort of meme going around? I think the woman who said it to our group was serious.
Women HAD the chance, to easily turn this election.
I know that’s frustrating, but it’s a fact.
Men, essentially put women’s rights on the ballot this election.
Women threw their last 60 years of advancement away, if they voted for Trump.
It WILL catch up to them, as well…
It’s a matter of time before it’s federally illegal, and probably abortions will be considered homicides (or something equally insane.)
Doctors will need to think hard, about each scenario that could implicate them.
The Christian people, will need to be consulted as far as what is the legal/“moral” and therefore correct way of treating pregnant women.
A woman was talking about a trend or movement, in which women would “withhold” sexual activities, and marriages in protest. That same woman also mentioned how that would be a terrible strategy. As the conservatives would no doubt “out-breed” the non-concervatives, further weakening pro-choice voices…
I have to admit, she’s right.
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