In the case of the pardon of Hunter Biden, are you more upset about the lie or about the pardon itself?

I don’t have very strong feelings about the issue, but I believe that Biden should have taken the high road and kept his promise. If you’re not going to keep it, why make a promise? and if you do make one, keep it. I’m disappointed.

I am not sure it was a lie. I however think he was wrong in saying what he said and then having a change of heart.
It will forever be a mark on him as a President. Nothing terrible, but will always be in talking points.

Neither. As I said in the other question, this was an invented issue by the republicans to take revenge on democrats and Joe Biden in particular.

Any person in the same position whose name wasn’t Biden – this would have been a non-issue and settled quietly and quickly. Remember that there was a plea bargain (which is normal) for Hunter Biden, which was reneged by the Justice Department for political reasons.

The pardon is absolutely justified because the offense was a total invention.

The 11 year immunity should be upsetting to everyone. Not so much the pardon itself.

People are upset?

It’s a combination as well as the hypocrisy from the left.

Joe Biden repeatedly swore he would not pardon Hunter and that he would support the results of the trial. KJP echoed this repeatedly. The media swore Biden would not pardon Hunter because he is an honorable man…not like Trump. All of these were lies. (Issue #1)

Biden could have waited until the sentencing which was due to happen in a couple days and then commuted the sentence. Then he could have kept his promise and Hunter could have gotten off. So he lied and pardoned him for another reason. (Issue #2)

Biden gave a blanket pardon for any and all crimes Hunter may have committed, whether they were already identified or not for an 11 year period. This 11 year period included the time that was being investigated when Joe was VP and Hunter was working with Burisma and China. This seems to be an extraordinarily broad pardon. If it was discovered he killed someone he wouldn’t be able to be held accountable for it. (Issue #3).

The left (including many on these pages) are once again showing the double standard. They will rant about Trump and how nobody is above the law but then turn around and embrace this pardon without question, making excuses for it even. When Trump exaggerates the size of a crowd, the left goes crazy saying he is lying. Yet here we have Biden lying and it’s all okay to them. That attitude is a lot of what is wrong with this country. (Issue #4)

I agree with @Blackwater_Park. There are serious crimes and Biden got 10% so to many of us, Biden pardoned Hunter to save his self. Shady.

He also said he wasn’t going to run again, so I think we know what a promise from Joseph Robinette Biden is worth…

I am most upset about the lie that anything to do with Hunter Biden is worthy of a serious prosecution, let alone national attention.

I am VASTLY more concerned with the Hitler-like fascist agenda of the MAGA movement, and the fact that MAGA has taken over the Republican party and got them to waste so much of the time and energy of the government, the people, etc, and that they essentially want to take over all the power of the Federal government and want to use it for agendas that serve racism, xenophobia, misogyny, and Vladimir Putin.

And that, is why I don’t really care a fig about “the pardon” – I think it’s entirely justified under the circumstances.

If you’re fishing for criticisms of Joe Biden, one thing I’m greatly upset about, is that he failed to promptly make it clear to even the MAGA part of the nation that MAGA’s Big Lie that the 2020 election was stolen. And while I think Biden carefully avoided any actual “lawfare”, I really wish someone had gone all-out immediately prosecuting everyone associated with and supporting that Big Lie, the insurrection, and the attempts to steal the 2020 election by Trump and other elected officials and cronies. They should all have been in prison or at least out of office by 2022. Now, instead, they’re making plans to burn all record, rewrite history, ignore the Constitution, replace the top military and intelligence leadership with incompetent Trump-loyal saboteurs, start jailing or imprisoning political opponents just for being political opponents, etc etc.

Given that, I’m pretty angry anyone’s trying to distract attention by talking about Hunter Biden, who has always been irrelevant, and a victim of a “go after your political opponent’s family” dirty tactics straight out of a Russian-mafia/KGB playbook.

Please stop being useful idiots to Putin by amplifying this nonsense.

I’m not upset about anything. Pardoning one crackhead pales in comparison to the damage Republicans ignore.

GA @Zaku

Neither. I’m happy he pardoned his son.

I was happy with his initial decision to not pardon Hunter, because I felt like that was the right thing to do at the time. And I don’t feel like he lied, but given particularly Kash Patel being named as in charge of the FBI, who has said numerous times that he is coming after the Biden family, I think it was the right thing to do and I think he was justified in changing his mind. And I’m glad that he did. It’s not a lie if you meant it at the time but then mitigating circumstances caused you to change your decision. You honestly meant to follow through but then had to rethink things.

I’m glad he finally changed his mind. I thought he was making the wrong choice from the very start.

I don’t think it’s a lie. He meant it when he said it.
Shit just went sideways.

He got immunity from anything else going back 11 years. That is any other future charges for things even yet discovered during this timeframe. THAT is unheard of.

Neither, especially seeing the people being picked to oversee the justice department. Things have changed drastically since Biden’s initial statement. It’s all a great distraction from the names popping up for positions who aren’t remotely qualified, so congrats to those who’ve even managed to convince you it’s somehow important. I’m sure the MAGA cheerleaders will disagree but they are just as vapid as the whole furor. Maybe Biden should have appointed Hunter ambassador to France?

Neither. Circumstances changed dramatically for the absolute worst. Rump and his sycophants are out for blood and would have given Hunter Biden a sentence that others in similar circumstances wouldn’t face, simply because he is Joe Biden’s son. I think most parents would do the same thing under these very specific and unique set of circumstances. Biden loves his son.

Rump doesn’t like, love, or have respect for any living human being, except himself.