Is conservative opposition of all things LGBTQ +, really just aimed at homosexual men?

Asked by MrGrimm888 (19528

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As public debate, and debate in DC, is occurring in America about the LGBTQ + community, I can’t help but notice a void of outflowing repulsion of homosexual women.
I have not heard conservatives, with concerns about what effect trans people will have on male restrooms, locker rooms, sports, etc.

Just from my experience, I rarely (if ever) run across someone who is fighting to keep lesbians out of the men’s room…

From my experience, I have observed mainly conservatives, and black men, are vehemently opposed to anything remotely homosexual.

A wawa clerk has a hidden camera in his store, and when black men asked for a lighter, he would give them a pink one.
The random pink lighter, infuriated many. Of the ones I watched, most of the men threatened violence or death, and some took to breaking things in the store.

I wanted to bring up the black community, because I believe that they have issues with homo-phobia (in America at least.)

With conservatives, when they talk about a “trans” person, I believe they are mostly thinking of a biological male, identifying as female.

I personally have not heard of almost any mention of lesbians or trans people who were born a biological female as being a problem.

I know that there are religious reasons, for some. For some, it’s just not something they believe has the right to even exist.

In America. In regards to all the polarizing debate on the subject, I have come to the conclusion that this is just plane old homo-phobia.

What are your thoughts on this?
If you oppose LGBTQ + rights, is it a religious thing? That’s perfectly acceptable, to me. Even if I disagree.

I’m attempting to get to the point, of all of this.
Yes. Right-wing social media, many members of the GOP, and Trump, are constantly trying to get people to be afraid of the LGBTQ + community, and they are likely targeting Christians’ general anti-gay framework.

I know there are stories about girls, and hormone treatments, and regret. But they are not the ones I hear raised voices over…

They just made sure, no trans people could use the restroom at the Capitol Building. Obviously, because a trans-person was elected for the first time. So. Mace essentially preemptively attacked this person she’s supposed to be working alongside. It’s also clearly a way of her wanting to appear tough, and loyal to the right.
But it was a statement, by the conservatives, that they don’t want trans people, amongst their ranks.

I am not a homosexual. I am a heterosexual male. But. I’ve had a gay roommate, and I know more than a few people in the LGBTQ + spectrum. To me, their just people. I would like them to treated, as a person.

Another way of asking this question, may be ; if lesbians or females, were the only ones who could be LGBTQ +, but men were all hetero, would there even be a discussion about it?

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I’m sure every homophobe has individual reasons.

The point is that their reasons don’t matter, though.
Conservatives love the law, and the law says respect people’s lives and space.

Some are secretly gay and hiding it, which causes self hate. Some are just evil. Some are brainwashed by bad parents etc. And some just have low thinking brains. They see a penis and vagina and think “that makes sense” and cease all further thinking.

Blackberry (34188

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If you’re honestly looking for conservative opinions, you should ask this question somewhere with more than 3 or 4 conservatives.

cheebdragon (20619

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Don’t forget TERFs who are mostly lesbians. They even hate trans women.

TERF- trans-exclusionary radical feminist: an advocate of radical feminism who does not believe that transgender people’s gender identities are legitimate, and who is hostile to the inclusion of trans women in the feminist movement.

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^I can’t forget, what I never knew.
I make an effort, to try to be respectful and call someone whatever they wish, but I JUST got the LGBTQ + thing down.
I was just looking for a blanket term, for gender identity/sexual identity. I hope that is OK.

@cheebdragon I am asking here, because of the low volume. Not of conservatives, but responders. I am only on here a little bit, every other day. I could NEVER keep up with like a reddit thread on this or any other subject…..

We ALL talk to others. I am NOT trying to start a conservative bashing thread. I was curious, if anyone had any similar thoughts.
I KNOW there are people in/adjacent to the LGBTQ + community here. They would surely know, more than I, about issues specific to their lifestyle.

Conservatives here, don’t always respond to questions, such as this. I couldn’t think of another/better/PC way to articulate what I’m asking…

MrGrimm888 (19528

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Probably. They’re the ones fantasizing.

Dutchess_III (47113

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Is using a mens room something lesbians want?
Certainly no Lesbian I know.

filmfann (52506

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I couldn’t think of another/better/PC way to articulate what I’m asking…

You could start by educating yourself. The term “homosexual” is a slur. Words matter.

https://theweek.com/articles/556341/why-word-homosexual-offensive

https://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/language

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Not entirely.

To some degree conservatives (and specifically religious conservatives) are anti-LGBT because gay women reduce the ability for men to dominate ALL women. Men see the lack of control over women as a threat to their own power.

So if conservative men can’t dominate all women, then who do they have power over? No one, and the feel emasculated and threatened.

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In a word, NO!

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Those who are most defensive are the men who secretly wonder if being with a man might be even better than being with a woman. Instead of just being ashamed, or embarassed, they deflect it into anger and insults. That’s how men tend to deal with strong emotions. Especially when it comes to sex.

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Eh, It’s mostly just religious people taking offense. Bible bangers are mostly conservative yes, but, the conservatives who are not evangelical don’t generally give a shit. They’re perfectly fine letting people be who they want and are just tired of hearing about it when larger problems need attention. From their perspective, the left is trying to force them to care by keeping the volume high. They’re more annoyed than anything else.

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Eh, It’s mostly just religious people taking offense.

Tell that to an LGBTQ person.

smudges (11240

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I know many men who aren’t particularly religious who are uncomfortable with gay men.
They do like the lesbians though. That idea turns them on.

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