Has anyone promoted this suggestion for standard vs. daylight savings time?

Or, we could just stay in daylight savings time. It makes no sense to me to waste daylight in the morning in the winter months. It’s fully dark here at 6 pm. In the summer during daylight savings time it’s dark at 9:00. Almost makes sense to do DST in reverse.

I LOVE your idea. We have states that don’t change time, I guess we could look at how they do it. I would want to stay on daylight savings time. I’d also be ok with keeping it the same all year and not adjusting what time school starts, but know that I feel strongly that school should start later in general, especially for older kids.

From what I understand China has one time zone and does not adjust time with the change of the season. It would be interesting to know how they handle time. I think China used to have five time zones.

It’s one of the things Trump is supposed to be trying to do away with.
In a “broken clock is right, twice a day sort of way,” I agree with him on this issue.

Just abolish is. So what if it is darker in the morning some times of the year?

I’m firmly in the camp of DST all year round, and not shifting hours of stuff. It’s an interesting idea, though, @Jeruba, and worthy of consideration. There would still be disruption of the bodily rhythms of the workers and students, however.

@ragingloli People argue that we need it lighter in the morning for children walking to school or waiting at the bus stop. I don’t really agree with this, because no matter what a lot of kids are in the dark part of the school year anyway.

The biggest danger is low direct eastern and western sun during rush hour. Dangerous because it is hard to see while driving, and dangerous because people who deal with that daily are more prone to cataracts.

https://www.sciencealert.com/here-are-5-ways-life-would-be-better-if-we-made-daylight-saving-time-permanent

@JLeslie I live in Tacoma and we change our clocks one hour twice a year here. Morning and afternoon commutes here get long distances of direct sun in drivers eyes. Fortunately it’s cloudy most of the time. HA!

@gondwanalon The majority of the places we have lived we thankfully had a commute going west in the morning and east in the evening. I did have a commute east in the morning when I worked retail, but the earliest I had to be at work was 9:00, and some days I went in at 1:00pm, so usually the sun was high enough in the sky not to bother me.

@JLeslie…and some of us have taught our children how to safely cross the street when it’s dark, because our kids are not idiots.

Full year DST will be popular until a couple of dozen kids are killed waiting for the schoolbus, or walking to school in the dark. Then things will change back.

Look at the last time this was tried – 1974 – and as a result of dead kids, full-year DST was repealed a year later.

Nothing like repeating stupid decisions for political reasons.

Let us simply stay on Standard Time all year so we roll with the planet.

@elbanditoroso Please read the thing I posted.

@elbanditoroso I’ve never heard anything about dying, waiting for the bus in 74. Can you clarify?

Seems to me that no matter what we do there will be periods of inconvienient darkness, be it morning or evening.
I agree with the article you posted @canidmajor. DST
would be better all the way around. We are more active/moving around outside in the early evenings than we are in the mornings.

“The claim of danger to kids was disputed; a National Safety Council study showed that the number of school-age children killed in early-morning accidents was about the same in 1974 as in 1973, for example.”

https://tinyurl.com/3vrsrph3

^^^^ And they showed a picture of a kid RUNNING ACROSS THE STREET IN THE DARK.
Parenting FAIL.

And Standard Time has been being reduced in recent years, so it only covers about ⅓ of the year. Is it worth it to change?

It’s the changes themselves that screw everybody up, I am just personally a fan of DST.

^^^ You’re right. It’s the time change itself that bothers many people. The hours of darkness decrease and increase so gradually that people adapt so slowly they don’t even realize it.
But we live by the numbers on the clock, not by how much daylight there is or isn’t. That hour is a jolt.
It’s never bothered me tho. Neither does jet lag.
And I taught my kids how to cross the feckin’ street and read any on coming cars.

From a Washington Post story: (publ. in 2022)

Frustration over the shift took on a new sense of urgency when reports emerged of children being hit and killed by cars during predawn treks to school. After eight deaths in Florida, Gov. Reubin Askew (D) called a special legislative session Jan. 27, urging state lawmakers to change back the clocks.

Though Florida would be on a different schedule than the rest of the Eastern Seaboard, the governor told United Press International that any disruption “would be small indeed when compared to the life of even a single child whose death could be attributed to a too-early start of his or her school day.”

The move failed, caught up in partisan politics. The clocks stayed an hour ahead in Florida and in other states.

Some schools pushed back their start times; some cities bought reflective signs for crosswalks, according to news reports. The Post ran a story on “inventive Washington mothers improvising outerwear” from fluorescent fabrics, complete with photographs of kids wearing their handiwork at bus stops. The article noted that some companies planned to offer jackets with reflective detailing in their back-to-school lines.

Schools north of the 50th parallel probably go to school in the dark or come home in the dark half the year. Alaska, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, have 16–18 hours of darkness during part of the year.

On the recent SNL weekend update, they said Trump would end day light savings time, by challenging the Sun to a staring contest.
(Followed with a clip of Trump, when he was looking at the eclipse with no eye protection.)

Standard time puts the Sun peaking at approx. high noon so sunrise and sunset are approx. symmetric around noon. Schools traditionally skews early in the day (8am – 3pm). Work traditionally skews later (8am – 5 pm). Lots to consider.