Social Question

elbanditoroso's avatar

Should Trump be jailed?

Asked by elbanditoroso (33604points) 1 day ago

The judge in NYC will be sentencing Donnie early next week. This is for the felony charged of fraud related to the Stormy Daniels financial chicanery that took place before the 2016 elections.

Remember that a jury unanimously found him guilty. Not the judge, but a jury of twelve ordinary citizens.

Felonious defendants are often given jail time, lose their right to vote, and several other penalties.

Why treat Trump differently? The crimes he committed were before he was elected.

Observing members: 0 Composing members: 0

31 Answers

SQUEEKY2's avatar

I would be happy with House arrest at Mar-a-Lago.
He is going to tank the American economy,and pretty much bring Mexico and Canada down with it.

MrGrimm888's avatar

Without question, he should have been tried on ALL of of his charges. I don’t think giving him a jury trial, is a certain prison sentence…

Apparently, he is trying to erase his life of crime.

In the case mentioned, Trump was found to be in contempt of court like 10 times. He definitely should have been jailed, for that.
And yes, he was found guilty.

There is no possibility, that ANYONE could EVER explain to me, why a current, former, or potential POTUS is above the law…
The fact that Trump committed election fraud, treason, and got caught (usually) recorded committing the crime or saying revolting things that tell us he’s a terrible person, but is about to be POTUS again, is inexplicable.
Unless you assume there is widespread corruption, and a LOT of judges and people in positions of power that are all helping keep Trump free.

Zaku's avatar

Yes he should have been imprisoned about 4 years ago (for seditious conspiracy, etc), and on many occasions since (e.g. for selling Top Secret documents), and soon as well.

filmfann's avatar

He should have gone to jail years ago, but that has disappeared from possibility.
I hope the judge will fine him a billion dollars or two. It’s justified and will stand up to scrutiny.

Kardamom's avatar

Absolutely! Letting him off the hook sets a very bad precedent. It will make other bad people who could potentially become president, start making their behind the scenes dirty dealings earlier so they will be in place if they get elected.

It also makes us not have respect for, and actually mistrust, the judges dropping the cases, or not meting out the proper sentences, that ordinary law breakers would get.

It goes against the main idea of the Declaration of Independence that states “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal”. When law breakers are not treated equally, it weakens our laws, makes citizens become distrustful, and empowers would be lawbreakers.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Yes. It makes America, look BAD.
We don’t need help, with that…

seawulf575's avatar

Nope. Forget that the charges were completely stitched together in a way that has never been done before to try making a case. Forget that the instructions the judge gave the jury were wrong. Forget that the case will be overturned on appeal for numerous reasons. But even if it were a straightforward case, others that have done the supposed crime have not gone to jail. Usually they get a fine for first time offenders.

My guess is that he will not be sentenced to anything. The whole point of this case was to say he was a felon. It was political lawfare.

chyna's avatar

34 felonies. Yes, he should be in prison.

flutherother's avatar

The judge has already signalled that Trump won’t be jailed or fined. He has been found guilty in a jury trial and so he is a felon and is set to be the first convicted felon to serve in the White House. The White House will be a little less white when Trump moves in.

mazingerz88's avatar

He tried to steal votes in Georgia, attacked Capitol Hill and stole classified documents. He should have been jailed. But this is Bizarro America now.

jca2's avatar

I was originally thinking, when he was first charged, he should go to jail and how exciting to have him taken down a few notches and sit in a jail cell. I was thinking he should be punished the way anybody else should be or would be. However, the way I look at it now is how practical would it be for a President of a country to sit in a jail cell and still conduct necessary meetings, press conferences, send communications, receive and make calls and do all of the work that a President does? Also, how practical would it be for the Secret Service to be protecting him 24/7 if he’s in jail? That’s the way I look at it now. I believe this is why the Judge said he wouldn’t sentence him to jail. It’s just not practical.

Blackwater_Park's avatar

I am not a Trump supporter so let’s clear that away right now before I answer. I voted for Harris. In short, no. Every single “felony” was with accounting where he tried to hide the fact that he was sleeping around with a prostitute. Here is the list A lot of this may have been done on his behalf without his knowledge. It’s essentially a single trumped-up (see what I did there) charge exploded into 30+ for dramatic effect. These shady actions or much worse are done by wealthy politicians on both sides of the aisle daily. (Think Pelosi beating the market by such a margin we have “Pelosi funds” that mirror her trades) This is not special except that it was used to try to take Trump down by his opposition. Like it or not, that’s pretty bad too. On a normal day, this would be glossed over with nary a hand slap. Jan 6 was skirting the edge of some serious shit, but at the end of the day, there was not enough to do anything about it. Trump did not directly call for the insurrection. Insinuations, yes, but that’s not exactly a crime. The document scandal could have led somewhere except that while intentions may have been different, Biden was found to have done the same thing. Yet, nothing was done about it. If Trump was taken down for that, then the sitting president would likely have been too. While he was under an ethical obligation to stand up and tell everyone to stand down on Jan 6, he was not under any legal obligation. All things being equal, being a cheating, pompous ass is not a jailable crime. The 34 felony stunt (be honest, it was a stunt) , backfired spectacularly as it just further rallied Trump supporters to show up at the polls.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

I think he should be processed through Rikers, fingerprints and DNA swab too. Then take his passports – - GPS ankle monitor on the way out.

Then proclaim he is a“Convicted Felon”.

Zaku's avatar

@jca2 “now is how practical would it be for a President of a country to sit in a jail cell and still conduct necessary meetings, press conferences, send communications, receive and make calls and do all of the work that a President does?”
– Considering that Trump’s [concepts of] plans for the USA involve things like dismantling all our governmental departments, replacing our top generals with Trump-loyal fools, sabotaging our economy, alliances, environmental protections, and international relations, and trying to become dictator for life, I’d say it would be EXTREMELY PRACTICAL to instead have him rot in a cell.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Well according to his loyal cult followers he can do no wrong, but to the rest of the free world yes he should.

elbanditoroso's avatar

@seawulf575 ‘s dog doesn’t hunt.

He can gripe all he wants about bad charges and bad judges, but the true fact is that a jury of 12, honest and true, called Trump guilty, and two -maybe three – appeals courts supported the decision.

So, @seawulf575 whine all you want, but your objections are flat and repetitive. And wrong.

seawulf575's avatar

@elbanditoroso Just remember, when it gets overturned on appeals, you heard it hear first.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Appeals on what grounds @seawulf575 – - -

Trump,“I’m in charge of the world, ” Just ask my BFF PUTIN !

elbanditoroso's avatar

Two appeals courts have already OK’ed it.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Oh OH I know “all the lefties are against me”.

His lawyers were out ordering Cannolis instead of being in during jury selections . .

Tropical_Willie's avatar

“They” are making fun of my manly unit that is shorter than a Vienna Sausage, just ask Stormy Daniels . . forget that ! !

Dutchess_III's avatar

God yes. Of course.

jca2's avatar

@Zaku It’s ok, you’re certainly entitled to your opinion. Apparently the Judge agrees with mine.

cheebdragon's avatar

Why bother trying to conceal 130k? It’s not even that much money.

chyna's avatar

^He didn’t want his wife to know he was seeing prostitutes.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Plus it might tarnish his image in front holy right wing voters .

cheebdragon's avatar

You think his wife is also his personal accountant? I doubt his wife is unaware of what he’s into, she didn’t marry him because she thinks he’s a great guy. Again, it’s only 130k, you could buy a Porsche or a handbag, a piece of jewelry or a small dirt lot property in CA, etc.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

@cheebdragon He wanted to look holy in front of his religious voters,that’s why the hush money,and that as far as I know wasn’t illegal ,but he used campaign funds that made it a no,no.

Dutchess_III's avatar

And so goes God’s chosen one.

MrGrimm888's avatar

That’s correct S2. He used campaign funds, to pay off a woman he had an affair with.
Money his poor sheep worked hard for. Think of all the Bud Light his supporters were robbed of… I’m just trying to protect his gullible sheep, from Trump...
You know “whether they like it, or not.”....
It doesn’t matter he paid it back. He broke the law. AGAIN….......

I hope ALL the idiots he’s nominating, understand that it will likely result in them being fired and ostracized by the right, and/or serving prison sentences that Donny should have, like their predecessors…....

Answer this question

Login

or

Join

to answer.
Your answer will be saved while you login or join.

Have a question? Ask Fluther!

What do you know more about?
or
Knowledge Networking @ Fluther