Since the President decided that DEI initiatives caused the plane crash, how long should it be until all but white men are in charge of everything?

He is a disgusting little, little man. Since this happened on his watch, I think we should blame him.

He was calling the FAA officials mentally challenged and psychotic. Also, didn’t Musk call for the FAA administrator to resign, which he did, on January 20? And put a freeze on hiring?
As @janbb said, it was on trumps watch, his fault.
I can see this happening for the next 4 years. Anything bad, Biden and Obama did it.

It makes as much sense as anything else he did or said in the last week

I’m not sure how that will even take place but it is going to take a lot of time for all of the unqualified white men to be up to par, if it’s even possible.

It will probably take a few generations.

@tinyfaery But don’t you know, they’re qualified already by virtue of being white. ~

Meanwhile Tucker Carlson’s son is joining the White House in JD Vance’s office.

DEI for failsons and dipshits.

Every minority has plenty of stories about white nepotism causing massive issues.

There’s a reason there are jokes about “the bosses son” or daughter.

Since no citation was given, I went to the source, as usual. I’m purposely not going to post it here, since it obviously wasn’t important enough to warrant a citation from the OP. But what I found was that he wasn’t blaming this crash on DEI. As usual, the lying media tries to swamp it into something it isn’t.

What he was saying was that obviously someone dropped the ball somewhere along the way. He then went into a dissertation about the problems within the FAA. He mentioned that during Obama’s term, it was deemed that the FAA was “too white” so they purposely excluded whites from the job of Air Traffic Controller. He mentioned that when he took office in 2016 he looked at the criteria for being ATC and found it was not pushing competence or quality, but all sorts of other criteria. He implemented standards that pushed the brightest and the best. When Biden came in, he again ran the criteria back. What he found was that the current standards the FAA has for hiring ATCs includes: _ “actively recruiting workers who suffer severe intellectual disabilities, psychiatric problems.“_ He went on to point out: “Those disabilities at the federal government as a matter of policy, as identified for special emphasis in recruitment and hiring. The FAA website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualify for the position of a controller,”

So apparently it is wrong somehow to want intelligent, sane, and qualified people as ATC as opposed to the DEI standards that say anyone, no matter how bad, qualifies.

But it gets even better! Despite the claims made that he is blaming DEI for the crash, he then went on to actually sound like he was blaming the helicopter. He talked at length about the visibility, the maneuverability of helicopters, etc. and was a by mystified why the helicopter seemed to turn too late and in the wrong direction. He even said that the tape of the tower said “You see him? Follow him in” He said the airliner wasn’t doing anything unusual, that it was following the course all of them follow and that the helicopter was the unusual thing. He did mention that the plane and the helicopter were at the same height which was unusual and someone should have noticed that and corrected for it. He said the investigation was underway and that it would give us the final verdict on what went wrong. He wasn’t blaming anyone, wasn’t identifying the cause…nothing.

So here we are, commenting on something the left wing media spouted. Let’s all believe the lie and then get incensed about it!

News FLASH @seawulf575 NEWS FLASH

https://apnews.com/article/plane-crash-washington-dc-trump-dei-claims-3ac5486ec594d81e919e8ebbd9733869

He includes Biden and Obama in his blame game !

Will we find out that one or both ill-fated crews were at January 6th “LOVE – FEST” for Trump in 2021 ??

And the Air Traffic controller was back at work after being pardoned by Trump for their being inside the Capitol.

@Tropical_Willie Isn’t it funny that you cannot bring yourself to actually look up the press conference to see what he said and how he said it…giving it the context. Sorry, go back to peeing on the floor like a yappy dog.

@seawulf575 I watched him on tv. Doing a LIVE broadcast. Even faux news was criticizing him.
I’m out. Not listening to you lie about the biggest liar in America.

@chyna Then you heard only what you wanted to hear. He repeated a number of times the things I have said. Go back and find the YouTube video and listen to it again. It isn’t given with media interpreting it for you. See if you have the wit to identify facts from fiction.

He blames Freddy Jr (someone else) all the time just like with his daddy, even when he did it.

“This was before I got to office recently, the second term, the F.A.A. is actively recruiting workers who suffer severe intellectual disabilities, psychiatric problems, and other mental and physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency’s website.”

“The F.A.A. website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism all qualified for the position of a controller of airplanes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot, a little dot on the map, little runway.”

He’s only doing that in the hope no one notices he fired hundreds of people from the FAA last week including the director and blame him.

It appears to be working

This isn’t about diversity in employment it is about air safety and you only improve air safety by a thorough investigation into what went wrong whenever there is a crash or a near miss and then putting it right. Jumping to conclusions without any evidence is not the way forward though it comes naturally to Trump.

What he said wasn’t very presidential. He should have offered words of comfort and left the whole investigation and accusations for another time. As my grandmother used to say, “there’s a time and a place for everything.” After the crash was not the time to say what he said.

@flutherother Isn’t it funny? That’s just what Trump said too!

@jca2 He took the first several minutes of his presser to do a moment of silence, looking to God for solace, giving his condolences, etc. He extended his condolences a couple times throughout the presser. As Sean Duffy, Pete Hegseth, and JD Vance.

Another thing that puts this question in the silly category is that if Trump wanted to blame it on DEI, he could have mentioned that the pilot of the Blackhawk was a transwoman. That never came up. Nothing of it was said at all.

Interestingly, if it turns out that this person is at fault for the crash, are you all going to ignore that fact?

@seawulf575 I heard parts of the press conference, and I know he did the moment of silence, which was good, and appropriate. In my opinion he should have done the few sentences of comfort and support, and left it at that. For the comments about the accusations, DEI, Obama, Biden, etc., he should have waited a day or two for that. Let the comforting words stand as just that, and wait for the other for another time.

@jca2 Unfortunately, just giving condolences is not what that meeting was all about. The public needed to know what happened and what is being done about it. Is flying still safe? Things like that. That is why all those press people were there. They weren’t there because they were told to go get the big story of Trump giving condolences. He had to discuss the crash. In every crash, there is something that went wrong…someone screwed up somewhere. Telling them details of what he knew (which he did) would only have brought up more questions. Eventually you get down to questions like “Why were the plane and the helicopter at the same elevation?” or “Why did the helicopter take so long to start evasive maneuvers?”. Questions like this lead directly back to qualifications, working conditions, fitness for duty, etc. When your FAA has been reduced to where they are looking for people with mental conditions to work as ATCs, that needs to be looked at as a possible contributor. And that brings on the question “Why were the FAA standards for employment set so low?” which brings you right back to Obama and Biden. The better question to be asked at this point is “Why did Obama and Biden give such ridiculous criteria for qualification to be an ATC?”

@flutherother
Well it actually is the way forward in America. Forward into the third reich.

@Blackberry *fourth

@seawulf575 I thought about past disasters, and did a little research into WH speeches. I didn’t want to use 9/11, because that was a different type of disaster (an attack from afar). I read a speech by George W. Bush about some plane crash, but then I found this speech by Ronald Reagan, on the Challenger explosion. This is an example of what I am talking about. He didn’t talk about blame, or possible reasons why the Challenger exploded. He just offered words of comfort and strength. The speech was on the night that he was planning to give his State of the Union address.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqilE4AAa-M

Edit to add that it’s only a 4 minute speech, so not a big time consumer.

I don’t think DEI ever addressed nepotism. Nothing good about a work environment where everyone is the same. Diversity is important for society. How a lot of companies went about it was wrong though. They were frankly lazy and instead of working to find qualified diversity candidates they resorted to off the books quotas. That’s still racism and sexism. White women benefited the most from DEI. These days there are plenty of qualified candidates from all walks of life. If they just made job selection color and gender blind, diversity happens naturally. At this point DEI causes more problems than it solves. It’s also demeaning to the “diversity” hires. They start off without any respect from many coworkers because of it. I E. They’re seem as here because of DEI and not because they’re the best for the job regardless if it’s true or not. I kind of support dropping DEI programs but enforcing anti-discrimination laws. DEI in corporate environments is just virtue signaling anyway. They don’t care, it’s about optics.

I looked at the actual job requirements for the job. It doesn’t pay that well (the trainee status).

I don’t see anything about dwarfs which I know Trump mentioned (dwarfism), unless it’s elsewhere.

https://www.usajobs.gov/job/810055200

Here’s the application in case anybody needs a job

https://www.faa.gov/be-atc/application-checklist

@seawulf575 he could have mentioned that the pilot of the Blackhawk was a transwoman. That never came up. Nothing of it was said at all.

Maybe because that isn’t true?

More BS spread by the “transvestigators”.

@Demosthenes I see that. I saw it as a meme and then did a search and found a number of sites that confirmed it. One that I saw was the Santa Monica Observer. I just went back to it and they have issued a correction.

I give it till next week.

Wait WAIT WAIT it was the FAA hiring dwarfs !

”“The FAA’s website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism; all qualify for the position of a controller of airplanes pouring into our country, pouring into a little spot, a little dot on the map, little runway,” Trump said.

https://www.kansas.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/dion-lefler/article299469154.html#storylink=cpy"_

Not true Chief-shit-n-pants! ^^^^

Yesterday, he doubled-down during a briefing.

When asked if he’d visit the crash site, he said, “The water? You want me to go swimming?” So funny! I don’t know about you, but I always reach for sarcasm in the face of tragedy.

I live about 2 miles from National Airport. I went downtown by Metro train yesterday, passed by the airport, and saw the boats in the river, there to recover bodies. Isn’t it so great that Trump can smirk at the sadness my friends, neighbors, and I are experiencing?

So now we’re all agreeing with them that DEI means hiring by race, EVEN THOUGH unqualified? DEI in most places I’ve heard (my company, Costco, REI, Trader Joe’s, my daughter’s new employer) use it to cast a wide net then pick the best from the collection. That gives them increased chances of finding gold. At my work I had one boss who sometimes lamented that he couldn’t reach the goals because the best applicant was a white male. But they were “soft” goals anyway, and no one made a stink because the best person was hired. In my daughters case a big rig company with DEI goals cast a big net and found an Asian female who graduated cum laude in Mech Engr for their computer aided engineering team. To me big rig and Asian female do not seem like they’d ever get together, but their DEI efforts got them an ace Engineer.

DEI is just the new ‘critical race theory.” “We don’t really know what it is but we’ll attack it.” Racism, sexism and ableism pure and simple

@RocketGuy That is DEI done right but that’s more of the exception than the rule from my anecdotal experience. That’s more “looking for the best candidate” anyway than it is DEI. I wish it was done the way you describe more. Companies I have worked around did not cast a wide net, they just promoted a bunch of white women and hired a few token minorities for menial work. It was about numbers. That’s very, very wrong.

@Blackwater_Park – that’s lame! DEI metric above performance metric. Those companies don’t make products that might explode or products that have serious competitors. The company I work at and the one that my daughter works at worries about both types of products.

@RocketGuy I wish they did’nt make things that explode. Some of them do. The thing is if they hired the best candidates by default, their DEI numbers would be fine these days. The DEI initiatives became the problem. I realize your mileage with this will vary, but I’m not opposed to scrapping DEI in favor of just fair hiring practices. If hiring is fair and they get the best candidate, what’s the difference?

Recruiters and HR have to get motivated to look beyond the traditional demographics. My buddy is mentoring a mostly Black and Hispanic robotics team, and they are gaining incredible expertise in the associated technologies. Some are going to Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCU). Will recruiters go there to find their next ace hire? It’s much easier to go to prominent universities to recruit. Less risk if you think a non-white hire might be inferior.

Well we can’t put FDR in charge of anything for sure.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25510607-faa-annual-eeo-program-status-report-fiscal-year-2023/

Interestingly enough. If you search for this on FAA website, you get 404.

The thing is somebody put the DEI in his ear and told him how bad it was and why.
He couldn’t actually process what DEI is or what it’s about, but someone mentioned it and off he went.
I thought that in his first term. Someone is whispering to him, and just cluelessly blathers about it.
At the time I thought someone was trying to show case how incredibly incompetent he is..but amazingly his followers accepted what he said with cheers and whistles.
So…some bad guy figured out thow to make it work in their favor and control it in in this insane way.

@Dutchess_III He does seem to just “take off” on whatever was the last thing he was told.

@RocketGuy even white people at smaller colleges don’t have the same advantage as the larger universities or top tier universities regarding recruiters and networking. You make a good point regarding Black schools. Especially in fields very dominated by white men it might be tougher to be the minority trying to break into the industry.

When a friend of mine wanted to find a small Christian college for her very bright daughter who had gone most (or maybe all) her k-12 at a Christian schools, I asked a friend of mine for recommendations for her. He is an ordained Baptist minister and started an interdenominational church at one point. He has worked in churches as a youth leader and other positions. He also is a CPA. His advice was, go to a well known university that has a strong Christian group on campus don’t go to a Christian College.

I wrote that all out to say that maybe realistically the best and brightest should seek out the top schools. Possibly some HBCU’s are coming up in the ranks, but previously they weren’t ranked very high. I assume Howard still ranks the highest, but last I looked it was in the top 100 schools and not near the top.

@Dutchess_III

“Stephen Miller is credited with shaping the racist and draconian immigration policies of President Trump, which include the zero-tolerance policy, also known as family separation, the Muslim ban and ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. Miller has also “purged” government agencies of civil servants who are not entirely loyal to his extremist agenda, according to a report in Vanity Fair.”

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/stephen-miller/

@Dutchess_III – I’ll bet Trump was told that DEI benefited non-white people, which set him down this road.

@RocketGuy probably by Musk