So what is the point of back ground checks and job requirements?
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Lots of things in government actually require proof of skills or the knowledge to be trained in how things function and an actual background check that one must pass.
If Musk who isn’t appointed by Congress of any capacity and is a private citizen who has no real working knowledge of what programs do what and hasn’t even been vetted, but is allow to rummage through top secret information or the private information of government people who have been vetted, then what is the point of back ground checks. So far two people on his team who haven’t had back ground checks or been vetted have security issues problems. One was actually fired from his previous job for selling out company information to its competitors. So basically will do anything for money.
These people and Musk are being given access to private information of government workers and citizens and even our nations spies and agents for the FBI.
Why is this even being allowed?
Why aren’t the supposedly hawkish Republicans stopping this man have access to anything he wants? Republicans might as well go home if they aren’t going to protect the nation’s secrets and the privacy of citizens.
This man and his team are the biggest threat this nation has ever seen to our security.
The right screamed about what Hunter Biden may have or may have not known while working for overseas countries but Hunter wasn’t permitted to peruse all our Nation’s secrets. Hunter wasn’t and still isn’t a billionaire who bought access and has connections and global interest all over the world like Musk.
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Sounds very anti American to be questioning how Trump does his job.
Do you have any citations showing the full story of the guy that has security issues?
Interestingly, as I was researching into this topic a bit, I found out DOGE isn’t new or unique. Obama set up the US Digital Service inside the Executive office back in 2014. It was used to hire all sorts of young college students to “work on fixing” the issues of Healthcare.gov. They were allowed to do whatever they wanted without any outside oversight. When Trump was elected in 2016 this group continued to work behind the scenes pushing their left-wing agenda and undermining Trump’s goals.
This time around Trump literally took USDS, renamed it DOGE and retasked it. So the idea of outsiders doing whatever they want inside the government started with Obama
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2025/02/07/the-dirty-secret-of-doge-dems-built-it-n3799582
I’m wondering if, when the young people were hired in the past, under Obama, they had to pass background checks and security clearances, like any other government employee. I’m guessing they were. Even I had to, working in local government, starting at a low level of employee – they ran background checks and had my info, fingerprints, etc. I am betting the employees under Obama did have to pass checks, because they were government employees like any other. It sounds like the ones working for Musk were just placed there by Musk.
Saturday morning, from the NY Times:
A federal judge early Saturday temporarily restricted access by Elon Musk’s government efficiency program to the Treasury Department’s payment and data systems, saying there was a risk of “irreparable harm.”
The Trump administration’s new policy of allowing political appointees and “special government employees” access to these systems, which contain highly sensitive information such as bank details, heightens the risk of leaks and of the systems becoming more vulnerable than before to hacking, U.S. District Judge Paul A. Engelmayer said in an emergency order.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/07/nyregion/attorneys-general-trump-musk-suit.html
@jca2 In the link I gave is another link that leads to
https://www.dailywire.com/news/a-doge-origin-story-how-barack-obama-laid-the-groundwork-for-elon-musk
In that article it talks about how Trump turned the USDS leadership from a political appointment to a career one. It then says:
“And when Joe Biden won the presidency, he didn’t even make a pretense of maintaining the nonpartisan nature: He promptly changed the top role back to political appointment, and even granted his appointee waivers exempting her from ethics rules.”
So I wouldn’t put too much faith in the idea that Obama (or Biden) followed all the normal channels to get people in.
I don’t have time to read it now because we’re going out for the day (and evening) to the city. Will read it later.
I am also wondering if these people that are being laid off can be laid off the way they are, because they’re civil servants and usually would be covered by what’s in the budget, and can’t be fired so easily because of unions and stuff like that. I haven’t looked into it. I know when I was working in local government, we were all union members and only the most egregious of fuckups would be fired immediately (usually even then the union would represent and there would be a hearing). Even if they did something really bad, they’d be suspended without pay and then have a hearing. Nobody was just fired willy nilly, you’re gone.
@jca2 Part of the concern about the workers getting laid off I know an answer to. The Executive branch is responsible for the performance of the Executive Branch. Just because Congress allocated funds to pay for things, it is the job of the POTUS to ensure the money is being spent wisely. The POTUS can refuse to spend the money, he just has to fill out a form that explains why he is not spending it.
I’m hoping that one benefit of this whole effort is that it will force the government to follow their rules and submit and approve a budget instead of living by continuing resolutions every couple months. And maybe that budget will be comprehensible when it is done.
They are part of building a qualified workforce.
Like people have said for hundreds of years:
“Rules for thee, but not for me…”.
Colonizers can do whatever they want. Laws and rules are for their subjects.
Now stop asking questions and get back to work so you can die faster and we can collect your things.
Sounds very anti American to be questioning how Trump does his job.
I feel stupid but that is loaded with of sarcasm, right? There’s no tilde.
@seawulf575 Believing anything from the daily wire. You might as well post stuff from the National Enquirer.
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