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What do you think about United States VP Vance telling Germany to speak to the far right Neo Nazi party in Germany?

Asked by JLeslie (65903points) 6 hours ago from iPhone

Germany has some strict laws about people using Nazi symbols or saying or writing anything that promotes or endorses Nazis. Germany also has wall politically that they don’t deal with very far right political parties. Vance is saying everyone should be heard and invited to the table.

What are your thoughts about what Vance said in terms of the US? You can also answer regarding German or world politics, but specifically curious what you think he might be signaling back in the US too.

He said it a couple if days after visiting a concentration camp in Germany.

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ragingloli's avatar

He wants Germany to become fascist in their image. There is no deeper meaning than that.
He, Musk, and their Russian masters have been propping up right wing extremist and pro-putin parties all over Europe. Vance eschewed talking to the German Chancellor in Munich, and talked to the AFD leader instead. Musk has been a speaker at an AFD event.
Chiefly, the goal is to fracture and destroy the European Union by installing nationalist governments that will not work together to defend themselves and each other against further colonial and russian aggression. They already made early headway towards that goal with Brexit, and with installing the Russian-Rapist-in-Chief.

Blackwater_Park's avatar

In politics, keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

jca2's avatar

I saw somewhere Steve Bannon did the Nazi salute.

hat's avatar

^ He did.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1892785593442029712

And then goes on to talk about how anti-Zionist “Jewish billionaires” are a threat.

https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1893167962816684287

chyna's avatar

@jca2 I saw that too, but then read it was to make fun of musk. But who knows?

hat's avatar

@ragingloli: “He wants Germany to become fascist in their image.”

It doesn’t appear that Germany needs any help in supporting fascism. From its obvious history to its support and funding of Israel to crackdowns on anti-genocide protests, it looks like Germany and the US already have much in common.

jca2's avatar

@chyna I just googled it for more info and I see he is claiming it was “just a wave.”

https://apnews.com/article/steve-bannon-cpac-nazi-salute-gesture-wave-43a06de6184fe58940c8ae3d743bc6ba

chyna's avatar

If you have to lie about your actions, do you really believe them, are ashamed of them or just aren’t man enough to stand up for your beliefs?

jca2's avatar

@chyna I am guessing he is all for the Nazi party and doesn’t want to admit it.

Edit to add I didn’t want my comment above to make it sound like I was defending him. I was pointing out his claim (which I believe to be a bullshit claim).

chyna's avatar

^I didn’t think you were defending him.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

And yet these extremists get all pissy when I call them Frightwingers.

Zaku's avatar

My thoughts? All flavors of Nazi should be detained and/or nowhere near positions of influence, let alone authority of any kind.

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