If medicaid is cut, what will happen to those in homes who can't afford to pay?

YUP !

Trump will send them to the street !

I understanding is that they want to rollback recent expansions which means mostly healthcare insurance for those just above the poverty line (around 20 million) Anyone know where the line is these days?

@kruger_d Republicans keep pushing the idea that there are 880 billion dollars in waste in health services but in the same breath say waste can be eliminated. How, unless you are cutting something you might consider waste but is necessary to someones health. They claim they won’t cut Medicaid but are going after Medicare and ACA. ACA covers 44 million people who won’t be able to find affordable health care and then 67 million on medicare and Medicaid. Also cutting back on the other two would mean Medcaid would have to pick up the slack. We are talking about a good chunk of our nation. About 37 million live below the poverty line. These are people who can barely afford food or rent but are expected to be able to pay for regular insurance? With the increase of cost of living that 20 million you mention above the poverty line will fall under it.

I would say that as with all things our government does, there is likely waste, fraud, and abuse going on in Medicaid. If they stop the illegal activity, I have a hard time feeling sorry that the criminal is not going to continue to get the illicit gains. And those are the cuts that are being discussed.

People will die. Which is what Trump wants, because Medicaid recipients are seen as freeloaders, and a dead freeloader is a WIN for the MAGA side.

Note that @seawulf575 answer is completely non-responsive to the question.

They will die, or otherwise be at the mercy of spotty “charities”. And republicans will cheer, laugh, and proclaim good riddance to the parasites.

Like when Musk laughed at cutting Ebola prevention.
Human lives mean nothing to them, until the leopards come for their own faces.

@ragingloli Did you read the entire article? “I think we all want Ebola prevention. So we restored the Ebola prevention immediately, and there was no interruption.”

@cheebdragon
And if you read further, it reveals he was lying.

They won’t be able to afford food or medicine. They won’t be able to afford housing. They will be out on the streets left to die.
Yes, there is waste in all aspects of government funding. But musk and trump have shown they leap first then look back later. If musk was truly hired to research and then cut waste, he needs to do his job correctly.

@elbanditoroso How so? If they are already on Medicaid legally, nothing will change. And that is what the actual proposal about cutting Medicaid is all about…getting those draining the system illegally off the total. The question is fearmongering…sorry if I don’t buy into it. I’m just correcting the fallacy being presented.

@seawulf575 You don’t have a fucking clue what you’re talking about.

Beneficiary fraud in Medicaid is negligible. Overwhelmingly the fraud that occurs are from those providing services, often in adult care facilities by not providing the care they’re being paid to. It occurs at a similar level to the private sector and is administered more economically efficiently than for-profit insurers.

Cutting benefits because of fraud would be like Nike deciding to make and sell fewer shoes because people are shoplifting. No rational person would think that makes any sense. This is an unconstitutional way for the executive to bypass congress and cut non-discretionary programs to finance his tax break for billionaires.

What’s ironic is that there are rich people who are on Medicaid legally, through loopholes in the law, who put their money into trusts (all legal, all through estate planning attorneys). Very rich people, not just upper middle class. I was doing home assessments for Medicaid recipients, for people who needed aids at home, and there were people who lived in mansions who had an aide. The Director of the program (Medicaid recipients who had a home health aide), who was a doctor, and who was also the Director of the local hospital ER, had his own mother on Medicaid. When we went to homes to assess, there were mansions, with marble bathrooms (slabs of marble, not just marble tiles from Home Depot), custom upholstery, all that. One lived in a wing of her son’s house and the son was an art dealer from another country, but again, all legal, all above board. There was no being mad about it, because it was all according to the law. Money hidden, estate planning attorneys hired, on paper, the people were poverty stricken but living in mansions. This is in one of the most wealthy counties in the country.

If DOGE wants to save money, they should push for legislative changes to eliminate those loopholes, to save money, because those millionaires don’t really need Medicaid. DOGE won’t look to change those laws, I am betting, since the recipients of those benefits are their own parents, grandparents, friends and family. This is how the rich hold on to their money.

But Trump said if we Canadians joined the u.s we would have better health care he wouldn’t have lied would he?

@gorillapaws That makes the question even dumber. They are looking at cutting waste, fraud, and abuse. If they stop the fraud that occurs from those providing the services, how is that impacting the end user? The only other proposal I’ve seen is asking people to work to get benefits. And even that has stipulations and exemptions. That is something states are already starting to push and it is something that has been a part of the SNAP program for a long time.

@seawulf575 “If they stop the fraud that occurs from those providing the services”

I would think if that’s what the plan actually was, 100/100 people would agree with that effort. They’re looking to take money out of medicaid, not turbocharge enforcement against fraudulent healthcare companies.

@gorillapaws But again, going after the fraud isn’t cutting benefits and throwing people out into the streets.

I was going to say similar to @jca2. I live in a 55 and up community and they have seminars about using the loopholes to get Medicaid and secure your wealth so your kids can get everything, etc.

Plus, there will be some people who really suffer or even die without Medicaid.

I hate to answer what if questions, but it depends on what kind of cuts are made. If only fraud is cut, then honest recipients have nothing to worry about. If so called waste is cut it will hurt a lot of people because the current administration definition of waste is not aligned with the commonly accepted definition.
The people who solely depend on medicaid will need a lot of community help to find other sources of funds. Many senior nursing homes will be put out of business, and their employees will join the hundreds of thousands the Federal government is firing.
I foresee a pending national disaster.

If he vets this once as badly as the others, we can expect many hundreds of innocent people to get caught up in it (“by accident”) due to their strike first, ask questions later..

I’m on Medicaid. I’m only 55 but I qualify for it because I make below the income cap. I do work part-time, but I couldn’t work more than that because of all my health issues and the treatments I have to do. I’d like to believe that my Medicaid is not going to be cut, but I’m not holding my breath. And then I’m a goner.

@LifeQuestioner Age doesn’t have anything to do with Medicaid. You might be thinking of Medicare.

@JLeslie maybe? But I’m definitely on Medicaid. I guess it would be available for others of poor health but I’m on it because of my income level. Even though I am in poor health.

@LifeQuestioner Not maybe. Definitely Medicaid is not age based.

They are looking at cutting waste, fraud, and abuse.

Not remotely true. Unfounded nonsense .

The House bill says “cut $880 billion over the next decade” from programs overseen by the Energy & Commerce committee. And almost all the money the oversee is Medicaid & Medicare. They literally do not have $880B to cut outside those programs.

The bill makes no attempt to identify or quantify wasted spending. It simply says “spending must fall $880B” with no regard for the effects or specifics.

NY Times – Feb. 25, 2025 – What Can House Republicans Cut Instead of Medicaid? Not Much. The math of the G.O.P.’s goals makes the move almost unavoidable.