What is your take on the meeting today between Zelensky, and the convicted felon and his lackey?

Disgusted. Big bullies.

It went the way I figured it would. Trump only did this meeting because people were pissed that he wanted to do peace talks with Putin and not involve Zelensky. This is purely for optics. I knew he would do and say stupid things and try to make it look like Zelensky didn’t care about helping Ukraine out. He has already agreed to sell out Ukraine to Putin, so this wasn’t going to go anywhere. It’s just another episode to the Reality show called the “White House”. The bull crap that Trump tried to bait Zelensky in seems like something a reality TV show director would write up to pull ratings. It was a stupid fight over nothing. Trump just wanted an excuse. He late said that all Americans were disgusted with Zelensky’s behavior. No. I was disgusted by the performance of Dumb and Dumber, berating Zelensky when he literally came to beg for continued assistance to save his country and countrymen.

Obviously it was for TV ratings. trump even mentioned it would make for great TV.
They are disgraceful and disgusting bullies. The world must be laughing at the former greatest country on earth.

^^ I think a lot people in the world are crying at the damage we’re doing to their lives.

My take? Disgraceful.

Give it a year and they’ll be teaching Russian in American kindergartens.

Trump punching Zelensky while, whatever his name is with DARK eye shadow, holds Zelensky ! !

Horrifying! I could not believe that was broadcast on TV.

Here is an article with responses from around the world. https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250228-live-zelensky-arrives-in-washington-to-sign-minerals-deal

Trump said his comments to the wrong Vladimir. I would agree that what he said should be to Putin. Did Trump confuse the two?

The news story triggered anxiety in me, and had to turn off.

Disgust.Embarrassment.Shame.

Well, I guess the Trumpster isn’t getting his minerals now! Boo Hoo

It was a big shit show wasn’t it? I also turned it off halfway through.

I’m guessing Trump supporters thought it was clever.

Sad that emotions seem to take over for Zelenskyy and Trump. Too bad that it was for all the wold to see and not in private.

The only winner is Putin.

This was clearly Trump and Vance’s intent. I thought Zelenskyy handled it well.

Putin got his money’s worth !

Great article by conservative writer Tom Nichols

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/02/ukraine-us-relations-trump/681880/?gift=otEsSHbRYKNfFYMngVFweGv4UX7UfPGsjCiyiwxP-8I&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Another: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/02/28/zelensky-trump-meeting-europe-ukraine-reactions/

Very undiplomatic of Trump and Vance had to jump in and back up his boy. Two against one – never fair, never right.

I felt it was an embarrassment to the world, and indefensible.

Repulsive, yet completely expected from Agent Krasnov and his couch-fucker VP.
With this, this and that , it should be clear to anyone by now that the orangutan is a russian asset. He is not even hiding it anymore.

You know, I predicted months ago when Krasnov made the claim he would “end the war on day on”, he would try to do it by forcing Ukraine to surrender and give Putin everything he wants, and I was right on the money.
Yet Krasnov still managed to exceed my expectations, by trying to extort Ukraine for half its resources in return for absolutely nothing, and now trying to humiliate Zelensky on live TV. It would not have been beyond them if the had tried to force him to his knees and piss on him.

This week the heads of Frace and the UK both corrected Trump in front of the news cameras, after Trump lied about the conditions of their support. He took it well at first, but I bet it backed up on him.
The deal was set, but he wanted to bust it up.
It was monstrous.

It was horrifying to watch. Dump and Prance are despicable, mean, ignorant fools and they are going to ruin us.

Trump was what I expected, and that idiot thinks Canada wants to be a state?
I hope the rest of the world really steps up and helps Ukraine, and shows the the world it can be done without Felon47 help.

It was sickening to see Trump going on about “deals” while Zelensky and his people are making such huge sacrifices to save their country’s democracy. I don’t know what America is becoming but it isnt good and it isnt great. It is a betrayal not only of Ukraine but of American principles.

Weird how “America First” became “Russia First,” a country with an economy smaller than California and an army based on refurbishing rusting 1940’s tanks, suicide charges and Chinese quadcopters. What a complete disgrace. We guaranteed Ukraine’s security for surrendering its nukes. The promises made by the US are seen as being completely worthless now. Anyone who supports Trump here is a total fucking moron—unless you happen to be Puttin or a Russian oligarch (and if you happen to be Putin reading this, how’d you get that dumb fuck of a president to bend the knee to you? Oh and go die in a fire you evil fuck!).

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I tried to upvote the reddit video, but I’m not a member.

What does Staiy mean?

My son wonders if it might have been staged. Trump and Zelenskyy are both experienced TV performers who know how to hold an audience. He suggests that the purpose might be to throw Putin off guard and make him more vulnerable. I don’t know about that, but it isn’t impossible.

I think Trump staged it, and I wondered if Zelensky was in on it too. A few people in a zoom group I attend felt Trump definitely staged it but completely rejected that Zelensky was in on it when I raised the possibility. This same group during the discussion, one of them (who is in my opinion borderline antisemitic and has been very outspoken about the Gaza situation) said look at the contrast between how Trump was cuddling up with Netanyahu when he was talking about building Trump Gaza and then with Zelensky Trump blasts him. When I watched Trump and Netanyahu, Netanyahu had an expression on his face that I read as he couldn’t believe what Trump was saying. Like he knew that was going to get a big response and it was sort of crazy. Crazy like fox sort of thing.

@Jeruba That actually makes sense. Looking back, it sure does appear scripted. I can think of several reasons why they would do this.

@JLeslie
Oh, it was definitely planned to humiliate Zelensky on live TV. Yahoo is a fellow authoritarian autokrat to the ascending dictator, whereas Zelensky is an actual leader fighting for his country’s freedom. That is why they are treated differently. That is just how Krasnov acts. Actual democratic leaders are treated with disdain, while dictators and strongmen are coddled and sucked off.
It did not matter to Agent Krasnov whether or not Zelensky signed the surrender documents.
If he signed it, the colonies and Russia get to carve up Ukraine like Hitler and Stalin carved up Poland. If he does not sign it, he gets to paint Zelensky as “unreasonable” and “against peace”, and withdraws all aid. Either outcome serves Putin just perfectly.

@Brian1946
apparently it’s just some german streamer. so completely unimportant.

Trump seemed to get angry when Zelensky showed pictures to Trump. Did they trigger him? What were they pictures of?

I’m sure Zelenskyy’s part was not scripted. How would he benefit from being humiliated and badgered by Trump and Vance? That sounds like tin-hat country to me.

@ragingloli Yahoo. Lol. That’s good.

No matter what I think it was awful and embarrassing.

I’ve read a lot of articles on this revolting spectacle since yesterday. Here’s one I particularly liked: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/opinion-trump-thinks-he-humiliated-zelensky-he-really-humiliated-the-united-states/ar-AA1A1dGc

@janbb, he thought it might be to engender sympathy for Z among the iron-hearted. I doubt it, myself, because I dont think T & V have that kind of compassion in them; but it’s always interesting and often enlightening to view something in the opposite direction.

I just watched Face The Nation about the interaction and I think the Republicans interviewed and of course Trump and Vance were so off base. They expected Zelenski to sign a partial deal without guarantees. It makes no sense. I see this in business all of the time, asking a party to just “trust” verbal guarantees. That’s bullshit!

Plus, all along I felt Zelenski should only speak through an interpreter.

I recommend watching the whole episode.

@JLeslie I thought he did well. He did his best not to agitate Trump, but it was all a show. Trump and Vance behaved poorly, hoping Zelensky would bite, but he didn’t. Zelenskyy admirably handled himself. This looked like poor acting from Trump and Vance, hoping to kill the deal or bully Zelensky to sell out his nation to placate Putin. Trump is a liar and a bully who only respects other lying bullies like Putin

I have noticed that Trump doesn’t like dealing with people with integrity. He feels threatened by them and tries to belittle them. It is a motivation that Trump doesn’t understand. As Pandora says he prefers dealing with liars and bullies, that is, people like himself.

Well, as of Monday, 3/3/2025 at 9 pm Eastern time, Trump ordered the aid to Ukraine to be halted, until Zelenskyy can demonstrate a commitment to peace negotiations with Russia (that is the headline in the NY Times).

Just to add that the order takes place immediately.