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Did you know its legal for customs to look through your phone?

Asked by Pandora (32708points) 15 hours ago

Are we in Orwellian territory yet? A scientist who flew to the states to be at a science conference was denied entry for having negative emails about Trump on his phone. Before it could be investigated he was flown back to France to cover their butts, no doubt. My thing, is when did it become legal to search private information?
It seems as well it has become illegal to criticize the Trump and or the administration or the US.
With these kinds of things going on, it begs for criticism. I’m sure as a scientist, he thinks negatively of an administration that abhors science and education.

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jca2's avatar

I just googled it and it’s true. It kind of makes sense, when you think about it. When you read the beginning of the paragraph (in the link below), it explains the logic.

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/cbp-search-authority/border-search-electronic-devices

Pandora's avatar

@jca2 Look, I get it. But really. Looking into peoples phones? Either the right believes in privacy laws or they mean absolutely squat. If Americans going to democratic nations went through this our Nation would be pitching a fit. But its okay when we are the ones doing it? Plus, how long before we start doing it to American citizens? Or are we already doing it to American citizens? Are we searching phones without a warrant?

jca2's avatar

According the link I posted, it is for citizens and non, and without a warrant.

I guess if someone has it on their phone that they’re conspiring to ram their car into a crowd at a parade or some other such nonsense, I’d rather they be apprehended at the border than to have them enter and get lost in a crowd without anyone knowing.

Pandora's avatar

@jca2 But here’s the thing. What if they just start to use it against political enemies or simply races without any proof? How many of us say things out of anger but never plan to do anything. How many of us wish ill on people or even read comments about what others wish would happen and may be judged for that. Last I looked freedom of speech is still legal. So imagine where this goes. This is a slippery slope to attack disagreement with our government. Or should I say, disagreement with Trump. Trump is already trying to get the Justice Department to bring charges against law firms that fight for Democrats. Trying to get them to not be allowed to fight in federal courts. He actually told the Justice department to go after them.
This isn’t about just finding that one radical. If anything we no longer need to fear radicals coming in. They already know Trump is destroying the United States. We are imploding.
One by one, Trump and his minions are destroying laws.

ragingloli's avatar

That is why you do not use biometric sign-ins. Pin or Password only. They can physically force you to put your thumb on the scanner, or your face in front of the camera. But good luck forcing you to reveal your password.
But the real story here is that having negative opinions about Krasnov now count as “terrorism”.

Jeruba's avatar

The terrifying thing is that anyone in or approaching the U.S. could be subject to some kind of penalty for personal opinions they hold. Can people on the conservative side honestly and truly be okay with that?

ragingloli's avatar

@Jeruba
Of course they can, because “don’t tread on me” has only ever meant “tread on them

JLeslie's avatar

I didn’t know, but I guess it makes sense. Can TSA do it too?

Jeruba's avatar

@ragingloli, no, it hasn’t. When incorporated in a flag by the colonials at the time of the American Revolution, it was a warning to the British to back off of them. It didn’t suggest they ought to go pound people somewhere else.

“The “Don’t Tread on Me” phrase and flag, with its iconic rattlesnake design, originated in 1775 during the American Revolution, designed by Christopher Gadsden as a symbol of defiance against British oppression and a call for American independence. ”—AI summary.

Here’s more: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Gadsden-flag

janbb's avatar

I think there’s going to be a great drop in tourism and foreign professional workers wanting to come hete. What a sad idiotic cruel country we are.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

I a (Canadian) absolutely DO NOT want to travel to or through the us for any reason since Felon47 took the wheel.
Canadians in general are steering clear of the usa for the time being, because of of The Don fathers beyond stupid trade war, then him going on and on about making Canada the 51st state,only going to get worse he has the military actually drawing up plans for an invasion of Green Land owned by Denmark a Nato country .
How do you think the States are going to look on the world stage if that ever took place?

Pandora's avatar

@janbb Germany is already issuing warnings about traveling to the US and Canada is advising citizens traveling to the US to keep up to date with changing rules entering the States and pretty much, enter at your own risk.
Germany had a citizen that has a work visa for the states enter and is still being held for several days, interrogated and stripped search. Well if that doesn’t say, don’t come then I don’t know what would.

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