Now that Liberals stand poised to take back the government, do you think they might take back religion, too?

I think in the next ten years or so things are gonna get a lot more blue. My generation is coming out swinging in case you haven’t noticed. We’ve got quite a lot of ambition collectively. As for religion, I’ve noticed a lot of my friends returning to the church and being more orthodox, while maintaining a casual approach to sharing their faith with others.

liberals have religion?

Interesting idea, breedmitch, my own personal religion has always been on the liberal end of things. We don’t have any ‘felt banners’, but I am definitely accustomed to an acoustic guitar with my prayers. (Of course I’m not a Christian)

Ahh, Timothy Leary was God back then.

“Take back the government”? Who has had control of the entire legislative branch? The branch responsible for appropriating and spending every dime that puts us in a surplus or deficit, for declaring war and levying taxes, raising revenue, borrowing money against our national credit, regulating commerce, coining money and regulating the value of it, and to “make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States or in any department or officer thereof.”?

I was one of those good Lutheran girls that longed for more celebration of the Holy Spirit. I understand now, as I see God being hijacked for political purposes, why my pastors rested it so.

less than 2 years holler, ya’All had it for 6 of the last 8 and blocked anything the Dems wanted to do.

I’m not part of “y’all”, I’m pissed at liberal republicans too. There just happen to be more liberal democrats than republicans. I would prefer Constitutionalists, but third parties don’t have a chance….yet. It’s getting closer every year, though.

@jholler: You didn’t answer the question. D-

Sorry….no. I don’t think liberals have much interest in religion.

No. Hasn’t anyone been paying attention? Right-wing conservatives have a monopoly on religion and morality. Don’t believe me? Just ask one.

@jholler: I think you might be surprised. I know of many liberal Christians that are sort of “in the closet” about their faith because among their friends organized religion (read: Evangelical) has a very Conservative, bigoted (anti gay) connotation.

My logic behind this is actually this site…it appears to be overwhelmingly liberal, yet very few will admit to being believers. Most seem to claim atheism or just don’t care. We conservatives might surprise you some too…I consider myself very conservative, but very anti-anti gay. My sister is gay, and I decided early on that it is not my place to judge her, it is my place to love her. God will judge us all, and I am a sinner as much as most, and more than many.

jholler, i just want to tell you: i’m here

in response to your statement: “I don’t think liberals have much interest in religion.”

i’m here! i’m liberal and totally interested in religion (you must find me queer)! get used to it!

I was raised an atheist. Every Sunday we went nowhere, we prayed for nothing, and all our prayers were answered.

Jesus’ heart bled liberally upon the cross. Free Grace and forgiveness is a LIBERAL concept.

@jholler: Glad to hear you’re still a sinner:) But do you have to confess your sins to God or a priest?

Tom Browkaw had an interview with Bush’s “spiritual adviser” a few years back. After sitting through the minister’s Sunday service, Brokaw (I think it was he) was astonished that there was no prayer of confession or confession of sin (silent or otherwise) and when asked about it the minister replied that the death of Jesus had washed away their sins.

Why are grace and forgiveness exclusively liberal? To forgive you must first believe I did wrong…liberals seem to justify everything so that there is no wrong, only different socio-economic lifestyles.

Like Justifying calling someone a socialist because he favors a progressive tax plan?

To Jesus alone, breedmitch. I am a firm advocate of “priesthood of the believer”.

No, like justifying calling someone a socialist because he favors redistribution of wealth and a global community.

It’s a bit tiring, isn’t it, Judi?
You can’t argue with minds built a million years ago.
Oh, I forgot. The world is only a few thousand years old.

There’s plenty of justification going around on liberal and conservative sides

I’ll agree with that, Judi.

Thanks for reminding me astro. I’ve gotta go to bed!
I just talk to holler because I know we serve the same king, and I want him to be the best Christian he can be. If we make each other think maybe we both can be better servants

More popsicle-stick Noah’s Arks
Less Daddy/Daughter virginity pacts

More canned food drives for the poor
Less abortion doctor harassment

@jholler :: ”…liberals seem to justify everything so that there is no wrong, only different socio-economic lifestyles.”

Is this a joke?

Oh yes, all liberals are Godless heathens, right? ; )

If, by take back, you mean that liberals will reinstate a separation between church and state: I hope so.

Music and powerpoint and the other things you list seem to be more about technology than about liberal/conservative values, and it’s really hard for people to turn back the clock on technology. However, religious people seem to do this better than others – the Amish are a good example of using technology to suit their spiritual beliefs.

When I think of liberal and conservative Christianity, though, I think of what and how they preach, rather than the physical tools they use to augment it. I think more “Sermon on the Mount” for Liberal, and “legislate Christian values so that everyone, even nonChristians, have to act as though they believe” for Conservative. (Although, I suppose it’s more Conservative in the real sense when people stick to Jesus’ words, than the wildly Liberal style of crazy evangelist legislating that’s gone on in the last while, don’t’cha think?)

Perhaps we’ll see after the next Church elections. Y’all have those, right? ;)

More “there is neither male nor female, bond nor free, Jew nor Greek in Christ Jesus.”

Less Leviticus, as since Jesus’s death and resurrection we are saved by grace, not adherence to the law.

I think religious people who aren’t militant will feel less intimidated. It will be
interesting to see how that unfolds.

love,
Susan Hussein Christian

nothing will get me back into a church.

There is already an increasing trend toward somewhat more “liberal” thinking, but it’s nothing like what you describe. It has more to do with “remembering widows and orphans” kinds of stuff… and there are plenty of “conservatives” who are embracing the trend. There is also a trend away from legalism and moral absolutism which is embraced by some and feared by others—to varying degrees on both sides (including such issues as language, tattoos, and entertainment—this list by no means comprehensive).

If you are referring to the manner in which many have co-opted Christianity and tried to monopolize it as a political tool, I certainly hope that “liberals” will not attempt to pull any such stunts of their own. It would be just as infuriating as what “conservatives” have already done.