Collapse and breakup of the US?

whacko. And old news. And incorrect “facts” therein.

I don’t see why it would split up at all. I don’t really know anything about economics, but it just doesn’t seem like splitting up would help financially.

Perhaps he just worded it wrong and meant; “Split up, America will be easier to conquer”.

They could have put that in after; “When asked who would replace the U.S. in regulating world markets, he said: “Two countries could assume this role: China, with its vast reserves, and Russia, which could play the role of a regulator in Eurasia.”

Or maybe after; He even suggested that “we could claim Alaska – it was only granted on lease, after all.”

Hmmmm…. word domination on the cards today?

I can predict things too. Doesn’t mean they will come true.

This analysis is deeply flawed. There is this issue of nationalism that he neglects to mention. Above all else, people are Americans first. Then, there is the issue of the Armed Forces, which is a unifying entity. Lastly, the dropping price of oil and natural gas will cripple the Russian economy, which is based solely on gas and oil. So, if any country is going to suffer an economic collapse, it is Russia.

Here’s some cogent analysis and commentary. [NSFW]

Viva Cascadia!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_(independence_movement)

I didn’t say I agree with him, people.

I just found it interesting.

Also, I think we should be open to the notion that America is not an everlasting empire. Even the Greeks, Romans, Mayans, etc all eventually collapsed.

The one that really lasted a long time was the Egyptian. And they consisted of royalty, a bunch of nobles, a few artists and scribes, and everyone else slaves. Not our vision (I like to think).

@susanc – it sounds more like us than I’d like to admit. The government elite, a bunch of big business executives, a few celebrities, and everyone else working class or minimum wage earners…

Glenn “The Plumber” Beck evidently has been paying more attention to Russian historians than American historians. He seems to be promoting secessian by the red states. Maybe he hasn’t heard of the last time secession was discussed and over 600,000 Americans died.

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/18592/

Interesting that this is where Beck gets his information…Well, maybe not, since he is the latest star on Fox News.

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Conservatives. The more they hate what’s going on, the more I know we made the right choice.

I think the country will eventually split up. I mean, this model is ridiculous.

Honestly, I believe the next major trend in the international community will be a collapse of the major states into smaller, more localized entities. Confederations will become the dominant order. The information revolution has made superstates less necessary, because every entity has the power to be dialed in to world affairs.

@shamroch, you can look at the EU as being counter to this line of reasoning. You can’t compare what happened to the former Soviet Union and their client states to the industrialized world. When the Berlin wall came down, it was because the economies of the countries in that bloc could no longer afford to keep it up.

@IchtheosaurusRex

I see the EU as a type of confederation. There is still lots of freedom for individual governments. I’m more referring to Chechnya, Taiwan, Kosovo, Sri Lanka, Sudan, and the dozen of other independence wars being fought today. I think the rate of success for those breakaway regions is going to drastically increase.

We had a long period of international colonialism that skewed the world map. Now, I think the globe will start to move back toward more responsible divisions of states, based on cultures and ethnicities.

I used the example of the EU because its formation brought the member states closer together as a unit. I think the argument was being made that the U.S. and other stable countries would fragment into a number of independent states – like the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia did.

You have to look back in history to figure out what happened there. There were a lot of little nation-states, like Serbia and Croatia, that were independent before, and are independent again. They were “united” by conquest. The U.S. was united by agreement, although you can make a case that Hawaii was a conquered nation that was assimilated.