Do you think natural selection is failing us?

I don’t think that has much to do with natural selection, but crystal meth is bad news.

Here are some examples of failed natural selection:

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@tits – maybe it doesn’t..
I thought so.. his ignorance and stupidity should surely have killed him by now is what i meant.

I doubt many meth users reach the age of 90. Modern medicine, law enforcement, the nature of man, all these things prevent the natural elimination of the weak.

There is no more natural selection, we just don’t have the life that makes that possible anymore. Not really. Anyone can find someone nowadays. There’s no more real competition. The slow and the weak live just as long as the healthy and the strong.

@bluefreedom: I know you were trying to link to a George W. Bush picture, but, click the link For a second, I thought you were being racist. For a second.

@martinf: I think humans are the exception to the actual rules of true natural selection – modern medicine has taken us far from it.

@simone54: Calm down, that’s really not necessary to call someone a ‘dumb fuck’ because he has a separate opinion. There are many very good arguments supporting the idea that he is a war criminal. Hitler was a war criminal. Just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t mean you should stoop to that.

It brings down the quality of the site as a whole when we can’t have civil disagreements.

But then there’s also proof that natural selection is alive and rampant today!

@asmonet, Where was this easy-going attitude the other night?

@steve6: Did I ever call you a ‘dumb fuck’ or any other name? No. I debated calmly albeit passionately and I never once insulted you. I gave you advice and offered opinions. The two examples are completely different.

If you’d like to discuss it further, please leave me a private comment. I do not want to hijack martinf’s thread.

I’m sorry, there were just so many of you I forgot who actually cursed at me. I think you were quite diplomatic.

@steve6: Thank you. I know there was a lot going on in that thread, I appreciate that.

You’re welcome.

Yep. Natural selection no longer exists among humans in good situations such as those in America, Canada, England, etc.

I don’t know anything about meth or massage therapy but I doubt that the guy will live to 90. Why did she ask him to stop? I would have gotten the hell out of there before some hopped up druggie cut my head off. Maybe natural selection is failing us. Maybe you should talk to her and tell her that what she did is dangerous and pretty stupid.

Whoa, I’m confused about what just happened.

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… i just missed what happened…

Me too, my dog just knocked over a full coffee on my brand new stove, and as if that wasn’t bad enough, I missed a censor! Can someone give us a clean explanation?

sigh. if anyone needs an explanation, they can PM me. do not derail this thread any further please. thank you

@jessturtle: Most therapists will stick it out and try to help the person in need rather than run away and allow them to continue to harm themselves. It’s kind of their thing.

A massage therapist, I wasn’t sure you caught that.

Whoa. Ok.
She is a healer, half these women do it to promote well being and spiritual growth, it is a natural therapy. A drug addict is a person in need, not an axe weilding maniac. Although sometimes jessturtle.. you would be right.
My question is that him not knowing it was bad for him is not important. The fact that he has access to both a mind altering drug that will kill him, and the means to both clean his body of the drug and replace any organs he destroys – this is what I am questioning. He is incapable of experiencing a natural death from these drugs because mankind sees someone have a heart attack and we call a fucking ambulance. I think this very thing is what’s wrong with life. It takes away any unique qualities that are there.
“People that are dying cannot die naturally anymore, is this true?” seemed like a stupid way to pose a question, sorry if i caused any confuuuuuuuuuuuusion.

@steve6: My mom was a massage therapist for 30+ years and she still does it on occasion. Martinf is spot on with his comment about their motivations.

I personally dont agree with the fact of controlling your life by a drug especially meth, maaaaybe marijuana is okay as a casual good time Saturday activity but I don’t think you should come down on someone so hard for a drug problem. Yes drugs are bad and yes, he could be making much better choices in his life. Yes he will probably end up leaching off people once the drugs problem goes to far and he cant hold a stable lifestyle, BUT prior to the drug problem, he was still a normal person, possibly even a good one. Drugs change people and can make the someone they never thought they would ever be. He needs help, if he is strong enough to get that help and overcome this disease then he deserves to be treated like anyone else – if he cant…he still deserves to be treated as a person, he is just someone making poor life choices and maybe should be submitted into treatment, not sure where to go if he doesn’t want help, but he is still a person, I don’t like it when people say harsh terrible things about people with drug problems, my friends mom has a problem well she took off about a year ago but she was such a nice lady before she got involved with all that it really was sad and hard to see my friend go through that, however it opened my eyes alot. I know it can be hard to cope with someone with that kind of problem especially if it got to the point that they are stealing or just doing things that are really terrible, but its because they need help.

I think that technology has removed natural selection as an influencing factor for much of our species. We no longer select for those with good eyesight, fast runners, efficient hunters – we now select for those with access to advanced medical techniques. Barring catastrophic injury and truly debilitating genetic defects, we now all survive and breed. I think we have already become much less “fit”.