Favourite poet(s)?

Shel Silverstein

Would Eminem count?

I’m an ee cummings gal myself. Anyone cool enough to never use capital letters is alright by me.

@90s kid

oooo I love Eminem! And yes, It does count.

As my english teacher used to say “Poetry is in everything; you don’t have to be a old white guy with strict meter usage to be a poet!”

Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (Lewis Carroll)

Billy Collins is wonderful and very accessible.

my son!! he does them all the time. and they are so heart felt.:0)

Theodore Roethke,

Wallace Stevens,

John Ashbury (not sure of spelling)

Randall Jarrell.

SRM

Robert Frost,
T.S. Eliot,
Mary Oliver,
James Wright

Wordsworth, Eliot, Shelley, Browning(s), and many more!

Steven Dunn, Mary Oliver

from the infinite cat donut rolls butter from the beet fumbling Jack Kerouac

W B Yeats
W H Auden
Donald Hall & Jane Kenyon
Sharon Rich
and many more!

ee cummings for sure
Shakespeare
Ezra Pound
Walt Whitman
Edgar Allen Poe
Allen Ginsberg
Lawrence Ferlinghetti
Charles Baudelaire
Sara Teasdale
Pete Winslow
Bob Kaufman
Jacque Prevert
Sylvia Plath
Edgar Lee Masters
Charles Bukowski
Borges
Sappho
Jack Kerouac

oh, and anyone who IS NOT William Carlos Williams. If I hear that goddamn poem about the fucking plums in the freezer or some shit about white chickens or red fucking wheelbarrows, I will absolutely LOSE IT.

@TitsMcGhee

Oh boy, you’d hate me and my roommate. We both like William Carlos Williams. :D Oh, and my father loves him. There is much quoting of William. hehe

….Shakespeare??.....:S

Robt. Frost
H.D. Thoreau
The Buk
E.A. Poe

“so much depends
upon

a red wheel
barrow

glazed with rain
water

beside the white
chickens.”

-William Carlos Williams

Just wanted to see if Tits would lose it. Hehehe.

Or this nice little parody;

This is Just to Say: Erica-Lynn Gambino (for William Carlos Williams)

“I have just
asked you to
get out of my apartment

even though
you never
thought
I would

Forgive me
you were
driving
me insane”

@90s kid; Shakespeare wrote 150 sonnets

For example:

William Shakespeare – Sonnet #18

Shall I compare thee to a Summer’s day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate:
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And Summer’s lease hath all too short a date:
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And oft’ is his gold complexion dimm’d;
And every fair from fair sometime declines,
By chance or nature’s changing course untrimm’d:
But thy eternal Summer shall not fade
Nor lose possession of that fair thou owest;
Nor shall Death brag thou wanderest in his shade,
When in eternal lines to time thou growest:

So long as men can breathe, or eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.

Is a sonnet a poem?
I am not a poem fan at all especially if they rhyme. I hate rhyming poems. My second favorite are limericks ironically :). My favorite are Haikus.

Yes, a sonnet is one of the most famous poetic forms, with strict meter and length. Read it out loud if you want to learn more. The meter is iambic pentameter: dum DUM. dum DUM, dum DUM, dum DUM, dum DUM. Shall I com pare thee to a sum mer’s day?

” Shakespearean and Spenserian sonnets are written with three quatrains followed by a couplet. The couplet generally involved an unexpected turn or change of theme. The rhyme scheme for the Shakespearean Sonnet is abab cdcd efef gg. ”

abab refers to the end rhymes of the first four lines; “day,” ”...ate,” “May,” “date.”

Oh. That’s cool. You’re right because poems aren’t always every syllable.

There once was a man from Peru
He dreamed he was eating a shoe
He woke in the night
To a very big fright
To find his dream had come true

But then couldn’t you go back and just put the two asterisks on every other syllable and call it a sonnet?

I read in your link it says “The Sonnet form is one of the strictest and most difficult forms of poetry in the English language. But if done correctly, it can be one of the most beautiful pieces of poetic art, and many great poets have made it so.”

90s: I am delighted that this caught your interest. As it happens, English, by its very nature, is an accentual-syllabic language. The word ”*po*etry“has three syllables and usually one stress at the beginning.

You’ve got a lot of the stresses correct in your limerick; but the last line is forced. If you had written, To find that his dream had come true, the scansion or counting of beats works better.

And the meter is; one iamb (There once) and two anapests (was a man) (from Pe ru)

An anapest is two unstressed beats followed by one stress. The opposite is a dactyl; two stressed beats followed by one unstressed; viz; Jac que linehttp://www.world-class-poetry.com/The-Sonnet-Form.html Ken ne dy. This all gets very complicated. You’re on your own now, kid.

Here’s an example of a poem I love, very different than a sonnet, by Charles Bukowski, a drunk and vagabond.
———————————————
The way it is now -

I’ll tell you
I’ve lived with some gorgeous women
and I was so bewitched by those
beautiful creatures that
my eyebrows twitched.

but I’d rather drive to New York
backwards
than to live with any of them
again.

the next classic stupidity
will be the history
of those fellows
who inherit my female
legacies.

in their case
as in mine
they will find
that madness
is caused by not
being often enough
alone.

@90s_kid: what don’t you hate? Seriously.

Philip Lavigne

and Rumi

Ah, good old Rumi.

I’d rather shoot
myself
than ever
suffer
a vapid
encore
of Bill C. Bill’s
nonsense

@Knot; Possibly but he is also very rich. He has a new (and extremely slim) volume of poems out, just in time for the holidays. And he does make poetry accessible to poetry haters (see 90s kid.)

@ 90skid

A sonnet is a 14 line poem, often with one stanza of eight lines and one stanza of six lines. Other forms of poetry and prose can be written in iambic pentamenter as well.

Also, poetry does not have to rhyme; it can be written in blank or free verse as well.

Nothing like a little edification over Christmas vac, is there?

@ tmgee

I like poems that rhyme
But they hav eto be good. They can’t just be nonsense:

Hi my name is alexander
I like salamanders
I eat apples
And drink snapples

Gay.
See what I mean?

@gailcalled
is it ok if i am confused :p
I read your quip 3 times but it’s OK because I always got low 80s in literature.
But I understand most of it….except some terms you mentioned…

@9os: You are very young and we are feeling you sophisticated material, meant for a college-level poetry course.

Your little ditty was cute but doggerel. Having the end rhymes does not make something poetry. I have to stop this now. As you get older, you may enjoy good poetry more.

Here’s one last example of a poem w/o end rhymes.

For The Anniversary Of My Death

Every year without knowing it I have passed the day
When the last fires will wave to me
And the silence will set out
Tireless traveller
Like the beam of a lightless star

Then I will no longer
Find myself in life as in a strange garment
Surprised at the earth
And the love of one woman
And the shamelessness of men
As today writing after three days of rain
Hearing the wren sing and the falling cease
And bowing not knowing to what

W.S. Merwin

The poems that I like the most.

@Gail- “Should I really open the the talent vs. wealth/popularity can of worms?” he wondered, idly turning the can-opener in his fingers…