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cornets_01's avatar

Mac or Windows?

Asked by cornets_01 (87points) January 1st, 2009

Practically speaking, I’d go for Windows. But if you say quality? Go with Mac..

[going gaga over mac, it’s just that.. too costly..]

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netpirate's avatar

Niether.. Linux

cookieman's avatar

Mac!

And while they may be costly, what I save in frustration is well worth it.

Lost_World's avatar

I would say Mac all the way. Indeed it is true that they cost more, but this is very well justified. A mac will last for much longer then pretty much any PC computer, I know this from my own experience over the years.

Also when you buy a Mac they come with a huge amount of very good software, which you would have to pay quite alto to get such software on a PC.

cornets_01's avatar

Linux stinks. If you can see, Linux copied the Mac’s interface, as well as Fedora which is intertwined with Linux. Linux has lesser features. I think Linux can contract Windows-programmed viruses.. The Mac OS can’t be destroyed by wmv’s.

Staalesen's avatar

Depends a bit, in my opinion Windows is ineffecient and full of risks.
Both Linux and OS X has their great sides, beeing unix systems.
OS X is great for easy, no pludering work and such, while Linux is good if you are a power user that like to tweak things to their liking.

And Cornets, Mac did run on a linux kernel you know ? :)

Maverick's avatar

Practically speaking, Mac. And don’t worry you’ll easily save the small difference in price by not having to do reinstalls and dealing with virus crap.

marumaki's avatar

Mac, no doubt about it. That’s no use paying cheap in a computer that sucks.

cornets_01's avatar

i see.
haha.
price does matter in our place..
Mac is just not affordable.

RandomMrdan's avatar

I’d go Mac for personal use, and it the new intel macs can also run Windows or Linux.

@cornets by the way, I’m not 100% sure, but I’ve always thought that Mac took stuff from Linux.

Also, asking this question on Fluther will pretty much get you mostly Mac biased opinions.

mrdh's avatar

Windows ftw.
Macs cause me way more fustration. I cannot cannot live without a right click. And the Cmd and Option and Ctrl keys. Which one is fucking which!?!? The key combinations completely unergonomic. I don’t give a shit if it’s prettier! I need something that works. I need windows (not the OS), I seriously do not know which programmes are open. It’s annoying to always have to press Cmd+Q to quit, I like to just press the big red X button.
/rant

Staalesen's avatar

I guess it really commes down to what people are used to, and the degree they are willing to re-learn things in a slightly different manner…
I think windows users biggest gripe with mac is that they expect it to BE windows, instead of learning a more effecient (maybe) way to do thing….

eambos's avatar

Windows.

Never. Ever. Buying. A. Mac.

wilhel1812's avatar

mac don’t run on linux, it runs on UNIX. Linux also runs on UNIX, other than that, they have nothing to do with each other.

Mac or pc: Mac. I love how easy you can right click with two fingers, how you can look at all open applications with exposé and how i never have to worry about viruses and such.

cornets_01's avatar

yeah RandomMrdan.. I totally agree with you..
The fact that:
>If you are going to buy a Windows-based OS PC, you’ll have a few chance that you could be able to convert your pc into a MAC OS.
>but if you are going to buy a Mac-based OS pc, you could install easily your 2nd choice of OS (probably Vista Ultimate Edition)

hmm.. like what I’ve said, I only own Windows-based laptops and pc’s cause I can’t afford to buy a Mac.. The price of a Mac computer here in my place could buy 3 generic brand new pc’s.. :)

Correct me if I’m wrong but, Fedora is free right?

simpleD's avatar

The total cost of ownership of a PC is higher than Mac. What you pay extra now for a Mac you’ll save tenfold in the near future by not having to pay for service, parts, virus removal, and having to replace the peripheral you thought would work with your PC. And isn’t your time worth money? You’ll get more work done faster, with less risk of losing data to malware.

If you just can’t fit a new Mac into your budget, look for previously owned. Apple has some refurbished models. You can also find good deals at Second Hand Mac. I would recommend sticking to the more recent Intel models, that is, those released within the past 2 years or so.

cornets_01's avatar

hmm.. that is, if it has of easy access to buy..
there are limited suppliers..
it really depends on where you are staying..
simpleD I really agree with your statement, but the problem is the Apple Company has limited distributors worldwide compared to windows.. especially in third-world country like where I’m staying. And if someone’s attempting to sell one, the cost would be twice it’s original price.

queenzboulevard's avatar

Mac
—I spent six hours the other day on a notebook with Vista and I couldn’t handle it. It took away my sound from my speakers because I didn’t do an update! It said No Audio Output Device is available. Then it took another hour just to put five effing updates on there so that I can get my sound back. Then after those five are on there, it gave me three more! Luckily those said optional and I didn’t put them on there because I actually wanted to get something done. Then it told me the DVD burner was unavailable. Unbelievable! On top of that Mac doesn’t get viruses (I won’t say ever). There isn’t much to get used to, once you do it’s so easy. You get what you pay for.

Vinifera7's avatar

I use Windows unfortunately. I’m considering switching to Mac or Linux.

joeysefika's avatar

Mac, however if price is an issue why not buy a PC then either (a) Downgrade to XP, a way better OS, or (b) Hackint0sh that biatch, or (c ) Wait for Windows 7 – What Vista should’ve been

Vinifera7's avatar

I am running XP lol

My compy is 5 or 6 years old. In human years, that’s like 90.

Ria777's avatar

though I much prefer Apple, the company donated $100,000 to fight Proposition 8 and defeat gay marriage.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=31899

that has me seriously re-considering using Mac’s in future.

RandomMrdan's avatar

@Mrdh I’ll just work through your rant from start to finish.

1: you cannot live without a right click…thats cool, I understand neither can I…luckily macs have right clicks, I’m not sure why everyone seems to think they don’t. Even the mighty mouse that appears to only have 1 click, actually has 2.

2: Which keys are which, CMD, Control, and Option. Well, if you took a moment to look at your keyboard on a mac, you’d realize they’re all their own keys. CMD would double as your window key if you dual booted, the control key is the control key, and the Option key I only use when I want to dual boot upon start up. CMD is also the key you would use for copy, paste, and cut CMD+C for example.

2: The key combinations are completely unergonomic…I find them pretty easy to use actually, but that’s fine, I can understand you don’t like them…all you have to do is change them to how you like them under the control panel for keyboard shortcuts.

3: You need something that works….funny you should say that, I’ve never once had a blue screen of death, a virus, or ever had trouble finding drivers to get my mac to work with anything I’ve purchased for it. My XP machine, my Vista machine, have all had blue screens of death, been riddled with spam and viruses at some point or another.

4: You don’t know which programs are open, and want a big X to click to close an application…well there is a big X, it’s in the top left instead of the top right. You can take one look at your dock bar and it’s going to clearly indicate which applications are open, and it will show a small light under it to show it’s running. You don’t have to hit CMD+Q to close out of an application, just click the X and poof, gone.

Your entire rant is a clear example of your average PC users misconception of Mac, or Apple product. Anything you can do on your PC, I can do on my Mac, period.

For the record, I own PC’s and my Mac, I run XP, Vista, Linux (Open Suse), and OSX Leopard. My favorite is Leopard. I sell PCs daily, I sell Macs on occasion as well.

Do some research before you start blasting away with misconceptions.

Noon's avatar

Linux

Cuz it can do anything a mac or windows can do. And if not, it just hasn’t been written, or ported yet ;-) (kidding) But I like the idea of not having to pay for your operating system, and the underlying message behind Linux. When it comes down to it both mac and windows are corporations out to get your money. Linux is not out to get your money, it’s out to make your computer work.

Cornet, please look up the evolution of operating systems before you start saying things like Linux copied the mac OS. Linux came around 1991, Apple was still using System 7 at this time and was no where near using their OSX (10) that officially migrated them to the unix platform they run on today.

RandomMrdan's avatar

@noon, I can always appreciate someone who loves Linux, I like it too….my only drawback that I can see with Linux is their lack of support with hardware peripherals like printers, cameras, etc for drivers…though I should note I am starting to see more drivers readily available, so it’s getting there. With more time I’m sure Linux will become much more universal than it currently is.

Noon's avatar

I’ll admit that being a Linux user is a slightly masochistic undertaking. But you can always stand on your soap box point at those companies’ drivers and scream “Why isn’t this open source, you should open source your drivers” :-)

RandomMrdan's avatar

@noon that in lies the problem…not everyone has the ability and knowledge to create source drivers for devices. I’m sure it would create far more problems for those non advanced users (it’s why they would stick to a mainstream OS like Windows, or OSX).

PupnTaco's avatar

@ria777: reconsidering as in wholeheartedly supporting them? Apple fought Prop 8, which seeks to ban same-sex marriage in California.

mrdh's avatar

@RandomMrdan:
I probably can’t argue with 1, 2, or the second 2.
But for no. 3: I’ve been using Windows for the last 10 years, and I’ve never had a single blue screen of death or a virus.
4. When I used my friend’s Macbook Pro (for six hours, so this was not just a twiddle around) I distinctly remembered that I did press the red button in left corner, and yet the application stayed open. I had to go to ‘Quit’ before it actually quit.

PupnTaco's avatar

The red button closes the active window, it doesn’t quit the app. [app name]—> Quit or command-Q does the trick.

Or leave it running. With protected memory, apps use zero CPU and RAM when idle.

mzgator's avatar

Last May I went Mac… And I will never go back. My daughter got a new laptop with Vista on it. Wow.. What a disappointment.

Ria777's avatar

@Dave, I said ”though I much prefer Apple” (emphasis added). so that should make my meaning clear.

PupnTaco's avatar

Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I read it as you were implying Apple wanted to defeat gay marriage. “the company donated $100,000 to fight Proposition 8 and defeat gay marriage.”

Ria777's avatar

it does. click on the link I provided.

PupnTaco's avatar

Apple donated money to fight against Prop 8.

Prop 8 seeks to overturn same-sex marriage.

Yes on 8 = no same-sex marriage

No on 8 = same-sex marriage OK

Therefore, Apple did not donate money to defeat gay marriage.

Am I missing something?

Noon's avatar

Oh god, Ria, please don’t tell me you were one of those people who voted yes on 8 because you didn’t read the ballot. Please please don’t tell me you voted yes and though you were supporting gay marriage.

RandomMrdan's avatar

zomg….I really think ballots should be a bit more clear for people who are in a rush and don’t read carefully….zomg

Ria777's avatar

@Noon, don’t worry, I don’t live in CA. (and if I did, I wouldn’t have gotten confused.) however as I said, I don’t live in CA.

@Dave, many apologies. I made a mistake!

PupnTaco's avatar

OK, good – I thought I was in the Twilight Zone for a minute there!

cornets_01's avatar

>dave and ria: wooh. i thought you were debating hardcore by that second. :)
wheew! hehe ^_^ thank God it’s settled.

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