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Sakata's avatar

Rules are "2 men enter 1 man leaves." The fight is between God & Money.Who's going to win?

Asked by Sakata (3347points) February 3rd, 2009

Vegas will be taking bets. However, you’re going to need to call your bookie for the spread.

Who’s your pick for the end-all be-all battle?
Which has the most followers?
Which has the most power?
Which will walk away victorious?

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jlm11f's avatar

Since I don’t believe in God, the fight becomes between money and…nothing?

So logically, money wins. well that was easy

laureth's avatar

This is going to fall two ways.

People who don’t believe in God will say what PnL said.

People who do believe in God will believe that He is omnipotent.

Question could as easily be, “Do you believe in God?”

willbrawn's avatar

money is a man. I beg to differ. Money controls a lot of things. Money must be a woman.

Blondesjon's avatar

Doesn’t God count as three (father, son, holy spirit)? God is also a god and not a man. Money is an artificial assignment of worth we base our bartering system upon. Also not a man.

How about “God and money walk into a bar…”

Nimis's avatar

Is it God vs Money? If so, I’m going with PnL’s answer.
But if it’s The Idea of God vs Money, I’m going with the former.

kevbo's avatar

Wait… is this a Don King production?

fireside's avatar

Based on the current economic conditions, I’d say that Money and Ego are teaming up on God and winning at this point in time.

jlm11f's avatar

@Nimis said what I was trying to say, but a lot clearer. Lurve!

DrBill's avatar

Money is always changing value, God is constant.

God wins every time.

Nimis's avatar

@PnL Thanks. Though half of my answer was basically your answer.
There should be an option to credit another user for part of the lurve. =P

Blondesjon's avatar

@Nimis…Fractional lurve? Isn’t that what Marx was all about?

karl or groucho, it works either way :)

Nimis's avatar

@Blondesjon I’m a lurve Marxist! Okay, not really.
The idea for redistribution of lurve is a bit silly when there’s plenty to go around.

Yay for endless lurve buffet!

Blondesjon's avatar

@Nimis…Indeed…I believe Marie Antoinette said, “Let them eat lurve.”

Vinifera7's avatar

Money, as in fiat currency with no inherent value of its own, is just a means for a society to exchange goods and services without the need for bartering on an individual level.

God is a fictional character.

How does either of those two things fight one another?

@DrBill
How is God constant? The stories about God in the Old Testament are radically different from the New.

AstroChuck's avatar

Cash is king. God-man is going down.

dynamicduo's avatar

Cash bets on itself, and conspires with God to go down in the fifth, thus doubling itself and its power. Cash goes around corrupting people with its easy spendingness. That was 5 years ago and look where it got us. Now more people turn to God to help them in their troubled ways. God wins… until the people rally back and drive towards a utopian future where neither God nor Money exist. Ah, Star Trek.

fireside's avatar

@dynamicduo – i always wanted a replicator in my kitchen.

laureth's avatar

Deity Man, Deity Man,
Deity Man meets Dollar Man
They have a fight, Deity wins,
Deity Man.

Vinifera7's avatar

RALPH: And then what will happen to us? There’s no trace of my money—my office is gone—what will I do? How will I live?

PICARD (amused) This is the twenty-fourth century. Those material needs no longer exist.

RALPH Then what’s the challenge?

PICARD: To improve yourself; enrich yourself. Enjoy it, Mister Offenhouse.

DrBill's avatar

@Vinifera7
The old and new testaments are based on two different time periods separated by 400 years of silence.

If you watch a movie and its sequel, they are not the same either.

fireside's avatar

The Torah and the New Testament are describing different aspects of a constant God.

wundayatta's avatar

God don’t stand a chance. ‘Course, he never did.

A giant, omnicient, omnipotent, pink, sentient amoeba, on the other hand….

Go on. Prove it doesn’t exist!

Now bow down in worship, lest ye spend the rest of your hereafter lost in the darkness of the ocean floor.

Of course, that’s not what god concepts are about, anyway. They are a way to get people to look past ostensible differences. Try telling that to a religious person, though.

Cardinal's avatar

God wins. DrBilll and his giant pussy cat is right on!

daloon: You know not of what you speak. I’m not sure an amoeba can feel anything!

KingMalefic's avatar

What currency? Cause if it dollars, God is already on the dollar he owns that bitch…. just saying. So god can concide or lose and money walks out with god still on top….

Money. In God We Trust.

wundayatta's avatar

@Cardinal: prove the giant pink amoeba feels nothing. Go ahead! Just try!

Dude, it’s just a metaphor.

now watch Cardinal be a woman

fireside's avatar

is it a translucent pink, or more opaque?

wundayatta's avatar

@fireside: this is neither the time, nor the place to discuss one of the great heresies of Amoebaism. However you could ask it as another question, if you want to unleash a flame war.

discover's avatar

—>God and money can go together too…...(Many people in the Bible were filthy rich)
—>Take only money, you would get a raw deal!

swingliner's avatar

Well, if you’ve seen the climax of the film “There Will Be Blood”, I think you’ll see that money was clearly the winner.

Zaku's avatar

This seems like a question for SeVen to answer.

My thoughts end with, “one deity-concept and one trade-concept enter a Fluther question… uh…”.

Vinifera7's avatar

@KingMalefic
The phrase “In God We Trust” was added to paper money in the 1950’s in response to the Red Scare.

You don’t even want to go there.

laureth's avatar

Also, if the people of God are at war with money, why do some of the ones on TV seem to want more of it?

Blondesjon's avatar

Two words about God and money.

“Jesus wept.”

Jack79's avatar

God is Love
Money can’t buy me Love, therefore it cannot buy me God
So Money loses

But time is money
God is infinite and eternal, therefore He has plenty of Time
Therefore he has plety of money too

But since God is a spirit and money can buy spirits in a bar, if Money and God walk into a bar, then God is owned

And since God is “the tree of Life” whereas “money is the root of all evil”, then God may be corrupted by Money. Thus lose.

Many ways this could go.

wundayatta's avatar

Clichés Я Us.

dalepetrie's avatar

Depends on what country the room is located in.

Sakata's avatar

Does everything have to be so serious all the time?

wundayatta's avatar

Other things are funny besides farts and pies in your face.

wundayatta's avatar

I meant, I find this thread pretty amusing. Or were you being ironic? Sigh, I hate it when I can’t see that.

jayson's avatar

God depends upon nothing but himself to exist. Money depends upon the paper it is printed on, the ink it is printed in, the printer and the press, the mint manager, the bank authority, the economic climate, the wealth of the country at any particular moment…

I’d say God, hands down. Speaking of hands he has more power in his weakest finger than the strength of the $ ( or whatever currency).

Sakata's avatar

Guess it doesn’t matter that you can actually SEE money does it?

jayson's avatar

@Sakata
On the contrary it is possible to SEE God. He came to earth as a man, Jesus. Who had a face to look at and walked among us and declared, regarding money:

“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. 20 But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal.”

Blondesjon's avatar

@Sakatayou let a newb hook you?

sigh

Sakata's avatar

@jayson Did you SEE him though? Because there’s still no evidence that Jesus ever existed. And if you’re information is coming from the Bible, well, it’s a great read but it’s just a story. If you liked that book I would also suggest Homer’s Odyssey and The Divine Comedy. Both good reads that tell a story.

fireside's avatar

If you’re talking The Odyssey, then the gods would definitely win out over money.

Man made money and according to Poseidon, “without the gods, man is nothing.”

wundayatta's avatar

Oh boy! There goes the fun! Where is the GPA when you need It?

NaturalMineralWater's avatar

Money wins the popularity vote.. God wins the electoral.

jayson's avatar

@Sakata
There is more textual pieces of evidence outside the bible for the life of Jesus than the life of Julius Caesar. The Bible is no story, it is taken by historians as useful historical narrative and is crucial in deriving dates for much archeology.

Seeing is not the basis of believing. I cannot see atoms and quarks yet I still believe they exist on the basis of inference and accurate portrayals made by electron microscopes. But to answer the question – I have ’seen’ him as he is not just man but God who shows himself through the Spirit through the Bible.

Sakata's avatar

I’ve seen him… just… not with my eyes. Yea, makes perfect sense. That’s the kind of statement that you could only get away with by being “religious.” If I were saying that about an invisible man (who wasn’t God) I’d be put away.

But I’m not going to continue on with this discussion. This isn’t the place, it’s off the point, and will never end so I’ll bow out. God is great… and shit. Gratz

wundayatta's avatar

@fireside: as I said either here or elsewhere, GPA is made in the image of an early creature like the one you have a picture of. That is not GPA, however. GPA has never been seen, smelt, or heard. There have been signs from GPA, but it is our reward to merge with GPA upon death. It is only then that we shal see the true, awesome magnificince of GPA.

@jayson: You are so close, and yet so far. I don’t understand how you can make the leap from inference of the existence of atoms based on reproducible data collection, and the existence of a god for which there is only personal evidence, and nothing reproducible. They are not the same at all, and you should be ashamed of yourself for even implying they are close to one another.

I’m sorry, everyone. I swore an oath to myself not to bite on this, but to aver such eggregiously and deliberately wrong assertions is something I had to reply to.

Blondesjon's avatar

what neither side seems to realize is that it is impossible to prove or disprove the existence of God

MAYBE WHOEVER TALKS THE LOUDEST IS RIGHT

laureth's avatar

@jayson – you say, “The Bible is no story, it is taken by historians as useful historical narrative and is crucial in deriving dates for much archeology.” [citation needed]

That might have been true in the 16th century, but historians and archaeologists have moved on since then.

90s_kid's avatar

God.
I do not ever want to live a rich life, actually. Mansions scare me. The most unhappy people are the wealthy ones, remember that!

Vinifera7's avatar

@Blondesjon
But as such, the default position must then be a rejection of that god concept for lack of evidence.

The burden of proof lies with the one making the claim.

kullervo's avatar

God triggers an economic down turn so everyone’s money is worthless. First barrel of money is needed for a loaf of bread then it is only good enough to burn for heat.
God wins :p

Sellz's avatar

I would say that God wins. If i have enough money to waste on a bet, I’m already finacially stable, right?

-Sellz

kritiper's avatar

Money. Because the almighty buck is more important than The Almighty.

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