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Does this make sense?

Asked by tocutetolive90 (888points) February 19th, 2009

Okay when i got my midterm grade i had a 64 and recently I got an 80 and a 95 on a test, but my teacher still claims i have a 64 in the class. Shouldn’t my grade have gone up to a 72 or 75?

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EmpressPixie's avatar

Ask your teacher how the grades are weighted. If the midterm counts for significantly more, then you might still have a lower grade. If those are the only three tests and they are weighted equally, you should have an 80 in the class. (Or a 79.66666666etc.)

Make the teacher give you a written description of how s/he is figuring out your grade. Keep your tests. If you can’t keep them, take a picture of the front page.

tocutetolive90's avatar

the midterm is half my grade. and the rest is added on. At midterm I got 47% on the midterm (she cant teach well) which is 50% of my grade. So i went from a 81 to a 64. But now with them two grades added in i still have a 64

peyton_farquhar's avatar

how many tests have you taken so far?
What percentage of your overall grade is composed of test scores?
Maybe you can ask your teacher for a record of all your assignment/test scores to see if it computes.

peyton_farquhar's avatar

she can’t teach well

EmpressPixie's avatar

I guess the easy thing, to some extent, is to bring this question to her. Just say, “Hey, I’m really concerned about my grade, I had a 64 at the midterm, but I’ve been doing much better lately. What is my grade now and can you show me how you are computing it?”

tocutetolive90's avatar

My grade is made up that my midterm is 50% and my assignments and tests are the other 50%. She showed me my grade today and it was still a 64

miasmom's avatar

What were your other scores for assignments? If the two new scores, 80 and 95 didn’t change that average, then it is possible. This is why it is so important to know how a teacher grades…go talk to her.

psyla's avatar

You need to know what is the weight of the 80 & 95 grades. It sounds like they have less than 1% weight, since they had no effect on your average. It may also be that their effect is nonexistent until all of these tests are averaged. Once all tests are done perhaps that time is when they will bump up the percentage. If this is how the teacher does her math, then currently you’re passing. Ask the woman how she calculates it.

miasmom's avatar

If you got a 47% on your midterm, cut that in half to 23.5%, the most you could get from your other score is 50%, so the highest grade you could get in the class is a 73.5%, assuming you got 100% on all your tests and assignments.

tocutetolive90's avatar

i got a 96, 88, and 50% on an assignment, and don’t sure on my one grade, then a 100% on a hw, and then 47% on midterm (which is 50%) that makes up my whole midterm grade which is a 64 and then after everything put together to get an 64 i got an 80 and 95 on 2 tests. but no change in my grade. These are all the grades i will get, but for my final.

psyla's avatar

@tocutetolive90, in your picture icon, what is that person doing to your right ear, talking in it, licking/biting it, smiling into it, or making teeth-bite sounds into it?

Does this distract you from school? I would have a hard time concentrating on my homework and in class if someone kept making teeth-bite sounds in my right ear.

tocutetolive90's avatar

smiling into it. lol

psyla's avatar

Silently, I hope. Smiling sounds would also be distracting and my grades would suffer for it. Is this why you got the 64, someone smiling in your ear?

tocutetolive90's avatar

lol. that picture was taken over summer break

psyla's avatar

No smiling in ears in class!

tocutetolive90's avatar

lol. hes not in my class. so nope

psyla's avatar

What is the class about? For the teacher’s sake I hope it’ not math…

tocutetolive90's avatar

nope. anesthesia

psyla's avatar

Have you seen anyone fall asleep in class?

Is the teacher an MD? If so, they’re taught to be very competitive and the best way to approach them is with extreme respect, but keep your sense of humor open as they devour jokes!

tocutetolive90's avatar

sometimes. lol. why?

tocutetolive90's avatar

I’m not sure if shes an MD. all the teachers in my school are from the field I’m going into not real teacher degrees.

psyla's avatar

Sleeping during anesthesia class, that’s got to be a classic joke the teacher should address on the first day of school.

Ask her if she practiced as a Nurse Anesthesist. Probably she’s a nurse, so she’s got to have some compassion for her students who have people smiling in their ears.

tocutetolive90's avatar

shes a vet tech. So she helped with anesthesia, but did many other things and basically everything else we have to do in the field

psyla's avatar

Cool! You’ll do fine. Study hard and ask how the combined test scores affect your final grade.

tocutetolive90's avatar

test scores 50% final\midterm is 50% and then added together and then average. to make up the final grade

psyla's avatar

It’s got to be that test scores all have to be done first and averaged together before they’re added to the grade. You could do the math yourself as, if this is the case, the teacher is not calculating a true projected final grade part way through the term. She needs to give accurate class standings to her students so they have a clue of what their average is.

Darwin's avatar

“she can’t teach well”

You may have heard this before, but even if a teacher doesn’t teach well, a student can still get a great grade in the class by learning well. You must have a textbook of some sort. Your teacher probably has some sort of office hours or tutoring sessions. There is probably a library somewhere that has more books on your subject, and obviously you have an Internet connection. Have you used any of these resources to help you get the concepts of the class so you can survive the tests?

“test scores 50% final\midterm is 50%”

So the midterm is actually 25% of your grade? If that is the case then it behooves you to make a very good grade on the final. As others have said, it is very important that you find out from your teacher how she is calculating your grades precisely.

Based on what you have said my calculations show that your tests and homework assignments each basically are worth only 7% of your total grade (you have 7 grades making up the assignments/tests half of your grade), so they won’t make a huge difference. Even leaving out the unknown grade but adding in your two test grades I get an average of 85% for those assignments. Without your two test scores, your grade for this part of the course is 83%.

If you average those with your midterm grade you get 66% with the two tests or 65% without them. This leaves out the grade you don’t know. If it was fairly low then you could still have a 64. However, if you get a very good grade on the final you can still pass the course with a C or even a B.

I would say, “Get thee to the library and study” but also talk to your teacher about what you aren’t understanding so you know what to study.

galileogirl's avatar

How come all the students who get bad grades have teachers who don’t know how to teach? Maybe it’s just like every time I burn the dinner it’s because I have a bad stove, or pan or food that cooks to fast, It certainly couldn’t be that I wasn’t paying attention because I got into a Fluther question.

tocutetolive90's avatar

Its not she doesnt know how to teach teach, but she doesnt know how to help/ teach someone with a learning disability

Jack79's avatar

the average of 47 and 79.6 is 63.17. So 64% seems about right.

Darwin's avatar

@tocutetolive90 – You haven’t said what sort of school this is or how old you are. However, most schools have something available to help those with learning disabilities. Colleges and universities tend to have reading labs and teaching assistants, and high schools have resource teachers, counselors, librarians and special ed. testing. And students typically have parents who can help find someone to help.

You also seem old enough to have been able to figure out some of your own coping mechanisms by now. If you haven’t done so then you need to start ASAP. Part of growing up and being successful is figuring out what works for you and, if you can’t, finding someone who can help you.

Some famous people you may have heard of with learning disabilities include Tom Cruise, Orlando Bloom, Tommy Hilfiger, Patrick Dempsey, Cher, John Lennon, Henry Ford, Alexander Graham Bell, Walt Disney, George Washington, John F. Kennedy, Avi (one of my favorite authors), Thomas Edison, Sir Isaac Newton, Britney Spears, Jay Leno, George W. Bush, Michael Phelps, Whoopi Goldberg, Billy Blanks, Jewel, Vince Vaughn, and a whole bunch more.

They didn’t let their learning disabilities stop them and they don’t use them as excuses. You shouldn’t either. Everyone has things they are good at and things they aren’t. If there is something they aren’t good at but need to be, then they need to get help.

tocutetolive90's avatar

My school has nothing to do to help with learning disability. I’m in a college that’s just from my career. She they don’t have to follow my IEP or do anything I need if they don’t want to. My disability just effects my ability to read and understand what some questions on tests are saying. I’m fine with notes and everything, But i read the question one way, but it means something else. But the teacher says there’s nothing she has to do to help me.

Darwin's avatar

Then you need to work on your coping skills. Written questions are not going to end when you get out of school. If you are past high school, then you are pretty much an adult and you need to take charge of your life.

Since you have had an IEP you should know what it is that helps you. Some of the things you might be able to do yourself. For example, if noise is a problem for you bring ear plugs and use them during tests. If concentrating on the question is a problem use you pencil as if it were a ruler and isolate the sentence from everything else on the page when you read it. You can also silently move your lips as you read if that will help you get it.

You might also go over the following very carefully and see if it helps you:

TEST TAKING STRATEGIES ( http://www.dyslexia-teacher.com/t6.html )
Taking Objective Tests

If you are taking an objective test (multiple-choice, true/false, or comparable type), you will probably achieve your best results by following this procedure:

1. Read an item through quickly, with high concentration, and answer on the basis of your first impression.
2. Then re-read the item, asking yourself what it really means and expressing its thought in your own words.
3. Ask yourself if your original answer still appears correct in light of your close analysis of the item, but do not change your answer because of a mere doubt.
4. Always keep in mind that your instructor is not attempting to trick you in the questions. They are designed to measure your knowledge of a subject, not your ingenuity in solving verbal puzzles. So don’t out-smart yourself looking for devious, tricky interpretations and ignoring the obvious, straightforward meaning.

Essay Tests

In taking a test where you are to write answers in your own words, observe these guidelines:

1. Read the question carefully. Then re-read it and express its meaning in your own words. Check each word in the question to be sure that your interpretation omitted nothing important. To give a satisfactory answer to a question, you have to correctly understand what the question is asking.
2. Answer the questions you know first. This way you will be sure not to use all your time puzzling over questions you do not know the answers to, and then run short of time for writing answers you know well.
3. Outline your answer on a piece of scratch paper before starting to write it in full. In this way you can organize your thoughts and check your answer against the question for possible omissions. Writing from your outline, you can present what you know more clearly and completely than you could if you just started writing down your thoughts as they came to you.
4. Write with a good pen, or a well-sharpened No. 2 pencil, so that your writing can be easily read. Also, watch your penmanship, spelling, and punctuation.
5. Read over your answers after you have finished your paper, checking for thought and completeness, as well as for spelling, punctuation, and sentence structure. All these factors are related to your mastery of course material. What is involved in answering a question “completely” is determined by the question’s wording and the preferences of individual professors. From the number of questions on the test and the amount of time you are allotted, you can form a rough approximation of how fully you should answer the questions.
6. Count your questions and answers before you hand your paper in to be sure you did not overlook anything. Be sure your pages are in correct order so the instructor will not have to shuffle through them trying to sort them out.

Preparing for Finals

* At least a week before exams, shift into overdrive by beginning an extensive review. Set up a detailed time schedule for the remainder of the semester.
* Attend all classes as instructors often use the last few classes prior to an exam to summarize, review, and clarify.
* Prepare summary sheets, one set for text and one for lecture.
* Pick out the most important facts.
* Organize information into categories in a manner different from the way you first leaned it. For example, History is chronological, so try organizing your notes under headings that emphasize time instead of themes.

# Review summary sheets and include key words for important facts.
# Recite information orally – ACTIVE learning is essential! How you store information determines how well you retrieve it, so use all your senses when reviewing.
# If you must cram, resist trying to memorize too much material. Select only a handful of facts even at the risk of leaving out something important.
During Exams

* Arrive early and remember to BREATHE!
* Read and listen to directions.
* Skim the exam and plan your time.
* Answer the easy questions first to build confidence and create momentum. You may work the test from back to front, answering the last question first.
* A question you can’t answer can be skipped, often another question will trigger your memory or provide that elusive answer.
* Answer all questions.
* Save a few minutes at the end to go back over questions you skipped, to review your answers and look for careless mistakes.

If you are in college it isn’t your teacher’s responsibility that you learn. It is yours.

galileogirl's avatar

An IEP in college? That’s a new one for me. I, too, would like to know what stone age institution doesn’t provide support for students with disabilities, That kind of assistance is mandated by the ADA. The only way your school doesn’t have it is if they don’t take any fed funds including financial aid. If that is true, you would be better off in another school.

On the other hand a lot of those high-cost for-profit vocational schools have instructors who have no pedagogical education. They really are not teachers, they are primarily master mechanics. electricians, nurses etc, who know their subject not teaching it.

tocutetolive90's avatar

Yes my teachers aren’t really teachers and are regulated by the government, but yet claim they don’t have to follow anything that i need. They do run through finical aid, but say they can do what they want to do. I would switch colleges but the college likes to fuck u over and ur credits wont transfer to another vet tech college.

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