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Does the thesis imply the antithesis?

Asked by SeventhSense (18944points) March 5th, 2009

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Jeruba's avatar

Sure. Don’t you think it does?

arnbev959's avatar

Sure. You can’t have darkness if there’s no such thing as light.

SeventhSense's avatar

@Jeruba
I think that this is the implied assumption but doesn’t have to be.

SeventhSense's avatar

Is there an ultimate measure of anything? I mean is there an end to the opposing polarities of any particular measurement- say hotness or coldness?

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@petethepothead
Where is the darkness in a room when the light is turned on? Is the light dependent on the dark or only in relative concept and if concept alone does it have existential value?

arnbev959's avatar

The concept is everything.

SeventhSense's avatar

Where does the concept reside?

Jeruba's avatar

I assumed you were speaking of the Hegelian dialectic or something like it. But it is not the case that everything has an opposite or can be placed on a continuum with extremes as endpoints. What are you talking about, actually?

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“it is not the case that everything has an opposite or can be placed on a continuum with extremes as endpoints”
No of course not but that is my point. One assumes the antithesis based upon a conditioned response. As soon as the yes is uttered there is the no.
What intrigues me is the nature of consciousness. Like the above example with light. There is no real concept but only conception based upon a perceiver. In a world devoid of Platonic forms. Consciousness is 360 degrees, not along a line.

Jeruba's avatar

The no is instantly born of the yes because those two words exist to express a dichotomy, the very same all-or-nothing split on which binary computing is based. But most of what is is not like that, unless you bring it down to existence and nonexistence (back to Hegel). You don’t have an immediate antithesis springing up when you say “water,” for example, or “fingernail,” “cut,” “happen,” “bathrobe,” or “demonstrable.” The world and experience are full of things that don’t imply a scale or degree, much less an opposite. Even Platonic abstractions don’t. I still don’t see what you’re really asking. In the end what have we got but subjective perception according to the configuration and limitations of the human mind?

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Yes limitations of the discursive mind which is always subjective. True mind has no such limitations.

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