Would A Singular Global Government Be A Good Thing?

I’d think not.
Different cultures value different things and those are reflected in their governments.
Some countries value unity and loyalty to the nation. Their solution is mandatory armed forces enlistment. Does that work for Americans who value individuality and freedom of choice? Probably not.
Also, if you thought the President of the US was powerful, could you imagine how powerful the leader of the world would be. (Leader of the world sounds like something out of a novel to me.) And if you think “Oh well, it’ll be okay then since we’d all be one,” people are greedy. They look out for themselves and do what is in the best interest for them. If one corrupt person got the position of World Leader, we’d all be royally screwed.

By no means could that be a good idea! If there is one unique government, it is very dangerous and there’s a high risk of might being used in the wrong way. If only we think about the good old days when the Absolutistic Kings reigned in Europe, we understand clearly why it is better to separate the powers in a single nation, and thus also in the whole world! If you were charged with the world reign, sooner or later you would start working to rapidly into one your direction. Many different governments ensure that there are different interests fighting and that nobody is left out of the discussion. Furthermore, as the world is very big and getting bigger still, one single person (or governmental group) would never be able to organize and administrate everything around the globe…they would have to create local governments which deal with local problems and WHOA: We’re back to where were before the single government! :)

I agree with James and Allie here.

It is a lot like business monopolies. If there is only one power it will be far too easily abused and cannot properly reflect the values of multiple cultures.

No. For all the reasons stated above.

I could never imagine all the different cultures being able to survive under one government. Think about Hitler. If he had accomplished world domination…just think how bad things would be. All that power to one governing body – over the entire world? No thanks, I’ll take my chances with things set up the way they are now. It’s a work in progress…it’s not perfect, but it’s got to be better than one single governing body.

i think that would be a horrible thing. most governments seem to have enough trouble keeping one country happy – can you imagine one government for the entire world? that would be so incredibly difficult to maintain. and who would decide that, and tell all of these country-based governments, “sorry, we’re just having one now. bye.” it just. i don’t know. i’m not that knowledgeable about politics or the workings of the government, but that just sounds like an absolute disaster to me. there are so many cultures, and i can’t see one government being able to accommodate to all of their needs.

Fuuuuuck NO.

This may be a little over the top, but a lot of it is valid. Watch it.

I think it would be a wonderful thing.

You guys are making a lot of assumptions about how cultures interact with governments. Why would a single government entail a single culture? In fact, I don’t even think that would be feasible. All the great empires of history—including the current American/Western allied “empire,”—have succeeded precisely because they are multicultural, because they embrace difference and debate.

We are already well, well into the stage of history where we have to worry about “might” being misused. We’ve had nuclear weapons for more than half a century. For 50 years, a single country could have easily used its might to end all of human civilization. Personally, I’d rather have this might unified into a single human government, answerable to all humans—as opposed to the humans of a single country.

@Qingu – I never said the it would be a single culture – my point is some cultures wouldn’t thrive. That would be very sad to see the demise of a culture that fell under one governing body. How do you think a culture that doesn’t see the same rights for women as men would survive along side of cultures that allow women an equal standing with men? I have a hard time believing that you could sit each culture down and have them agree on laws, human rights and even the basic structure of a government.

The thing is, cultures do influence certain types of governing bodies. There are countries where women can be stoned to death for certain transgressions, there are countries where children and women are seen as property. How do you merge those laws/beliefs with countries that do not hold the same opinion? If you tell one group that they must (and should) leave this belief system behind, do you think they would take kindly to having to change how they have been doing things for decades, even centuries?

Understanding the corruption happens – at all levels, what happens when the one governing body gets that power and decides that their rule is the absolute rule and they become more of a dictatorship type of government? Now, we are all under one rule. I believe we’d be faced with the same thing that has happened in the past. Groups will divide, wars will start to fight for freedom from the rule of the single governing body. Civil War erupts and now…instead of muskets and cannons, we have scarier weapons. Nuclear weapons.

You could be right, I just think if you look back into history, you can see where this led countries, before. Don’t we usually just need to look back, to see what could happen, again? Maybe my faith in humanity is off a bit, but I guess being someone that has really watched some terrible things that have happened, throughout the world – based on the beliefs of some cultures, I just don’t see the ability for all the cultures to agree long enough to form a single governing body.

@cak, I don’t think all cultures should thrive. I think some cultures are clearly better than others. For example, cultures that practice female genital mutilation, or cultures that kill witches, unbelievers, or women who dare sit in a car with an unrelated male.

Furthermore, I think human culture is morally progressing, and that people are generally better off and happier in Western-style secular democracies. One way to actually measure this is to look at where people immigrate to and from.

I don’t think “backwards” cultures should be destroyed by force. But I wouldn’t care if their negative elements were increasingly marginalized by a growing world government. Really, all you’d have to do is offer a significant economic or security incentive for the “backwards” cultures to join the world government and abide by its laws. That is how the EU is expanding, and I think it’s a good thing.

There’s a book that really explores this called Nonzero by Robert Wright. I recommend!

I do think there’s both a place and a need for authorities that are global in scope. The whole idea of a federal government was hotly disputed at America’s founding, but most of us now recognize that there are issues that are best dealt with on a bigger scale, and that having every smaller government doing as it sees fit will get you medieval Italy minus the Pope.

There are things we want that small states acting independently will never be able to realize: a stable world economy, food and other staples for all, an end to war, law enforcement across orders, and more. We can either say that these aren’t realistic goals and just retreat to isolationism to protect ourselves from the bad things that happen elsewhere, or we can learn to work together and see how much of this might actually be doable.

Administration on a global scale doesn’t have to grow into some “End Times” scenario of malevolent totalitarianism. Apocalyptic prophets wring their hands in alarm at any sign that nations are reaching across boundaries to cooperate as some sign that the devil is taking over Ironic that what they actually advocate is Universal government with Jesus as king.

Granted that humans don’t have a very good record of playing well with others, but by Golly, we’d better learn fast.

@Qingu – personally, I agree about some cultures shouldn’t necessarily survive. I’m not on board with ones that seem so backwards and cruel and deny basic human rights. I’m not defending all cultures, by any means. I’m sure you could draw that from my opinion, but I agree – not all cultures should survive.

Thanks for the book recommendation – I’ll look into it, I find this idea very intriguing.

I think a lot of the opposition to both federalism and the vague notion of a “world government” comes from people who know their cultural ideas will be outcompeted on an interconnected, global market.

At the same time, I think many of these people would support a world government if it looked like their ideal society. Muslims across the world oppose “Western hegemony ” (which is what a world government would probably look like) but would have zero problems with a renewed global Caliphate. Many evangelicals in America oppose a world government but also yearn for the Kingdom of Heaven and try to make American politics into a theocracy.

It’s rare that you actually find someone who is consistently opposed to the notion of a World Government—as opposed to “a world government that I wouldn’t agree with.”

@aviona
Thank you. That is perhaps the singular most powerful video I have ever watched.
I encourage anyone if they have a true desire for truth to consider it in its entirety. Many sacred cows will be challenged and much provocation regardless to where you stand politically or ideologically.
Excellent introduction by Chogyam Trungpa whose book Cutting through Spiritual Materialism is a must have for any curious person. There are many Buddhist references but can be read by most with a little knowledge of Buddhist terminology
9/11— Inside Job?
1. The ideas presented in regard to 911 beg further questions inasmuch as there is question of plane debris. If in fact the planes that they purport to have gone down in the Pentagon and Pennsylvania were scant in actual debris, then where in fact did they go? If in fact the world trade center theory about an inside job is true then it begs these questions. If such a blatant disregard for human life was enacted, (and I do not put that past our government), why would they have any controlled explosives at all to minimize any other collateral damage? Was it so important that the buildings were completely razed?
On a completely different note and this of course is not admissible in any court of law, I state with complete honesty and of the highest character(my word is bond) that a gentleman who I met with rank in the U.S. Military told me in conversation back in 2000 the following: He said that the military had plans to move into the region of Iraq, Iran and Syria to stabilize the region. At the time it sounded credible but farfetched as I considered about how this would be accomplished.
Religious Similarities- Patterns
2. The religious similarities and mythologies stated patterns by which different religious groups came to a particular ideology and world view and creed:

It has been clearly stated at various time the nature of similarities in religious thought and mythology. Was this an inherent desire by man to understand his world? Was this an illusion created by people on a vast scale to serve some purpose? Was this an organized attempt to manipulate or control the masses? Most credible I think is that this was an inherent quality of man to understand his world. Thereafter certain groups manipulated persons through a more subtle reading and reinterpretation of various mythologies. The worldwide similarities between various religious though far from a worldwide conspiracy is more of a similarities in symbolic reasoning of the human mind. Later it may have spread from contact but certainly not initially. The pyramids in Egypt Mexico, Peru etc. are not as a result of the transfer of information but a distinct foundation of thought which pressuposes any contact of civilizations. The mythologies of Egypt that created the foundation of their hieroglyphics their understanding of astronomy, engineering and mathematics express the fact that their culture, mythologies, gods, and illusions served some purpose. It advanced their civilizations. Certainly, if they could determine the nature of 2150 year cycles in the stars that sounds like something’s working. The Hebrew lineage from Moses and on served as a foundation for society, law and the progression of an internal consciousness that led up to the man of Jesus. The video in fact questioned whether he in fact existed or walked the earth. He did in fact both exist as a real person and walked the earth from credible evidence. I question the motive of this deconstruction to the exclusion of others such as Krishna or Mohammed.
The quantum leap of consciousness that was created when Jesus blasphemed the previous order and spoke of “revolutionary” concepts of thought and human behavior based on love and humility were without parallel. Where is the similarity with his Sermon on the Mount in any previous thought? Likewise the ideas proposed by Shakyamuni Buddha were far fom imprisonment or mind control but the opposite. The symbology and consistent nature of symbolism from the 12 zodiac, 12 disciples, 12 months of the year are tropes within the consciousness that speak of the natural mind and order that we inherently possess. Certain numbers, values and representations are inherent within everything. There is a natural order to the universe and if we look at one single component we will see a pattern from the radial spokes of a tire to the segments of an orange. We are part of the natural order and as such will reflect that in all of our activities and inventions. Take one word- Nowhere——-> NOW HERE and see our brilliance as creators.
One World Government- Cashless Society
3. The cashless society and the implications of one world government: We are already at the point whereby we do not even realize that we are instruments to discharge debt. We live our lives as if our purpose is to payback the government. The structure which was designed to protect us has certainly enslaved us. The idea of a cashless society has been slowly moving forward and gaining momentum from the onset of the barcode to the increasing use of debit/ credit cards to pay for everything. If the flow of money is created by the World Bank, and it is, then how much simpler would it be to simply manipulate ones and zeros and avoid the messy situations we are currently experiencing. The basis of this monumental economic situation can not be atributed to ignorance. The price of oil, gold silver by all economic indicators has nothing to doe with sound theory. They should be through the roof. And perhaps this will be the final nail in the coffin when in fact we do experience massive inflation and the only solution will be a miracle solution. Hence the introduction of a “currency” which is neither cash nor value.
I would add that the most likely candidate to put forth the new Master Card/Visa /Amero/Cashless system of enslavement will be the media and the “false” religious systems which have nothing to do with truth but only power. Like that monster in Rome.

Perhaps we can learn this from the good book,
“For the love of money is the root of all evil”
Time to cut down the fucking tree.
@Harp
It’s not blatant Totalitarianism we have to worry about
“Give me the right to issue and control a nation’s money and I care not who governs the country.” Meyer Amschal Rothschild, International banker

@SeventhSense Whoa!
You have a LOT of thought provoking statements in your posting! I happen to agree with a good deal of what you said.
The thing about a one world government is, how to avoid corruption and lust for more power among its members, and appointed officials? Is it reasonable to assume that these would somehow be impervious to such temptations where national leaders have not been?
Even a one world government that started out with the best of intentions and benign in almost every way, could become corrupted and be transformed into a totalitarian power
or an oligarchy in the least. Who then would be able to oppose it, especially if they were given stewardship of all military and weapons?
Qingu has a point, in that a one world government isn’t necessarily bad in itself, from any ones particular point of view, its just a matter of what that government consists of!
Imagine what the Jews would have done had Hitler’s regime expanded throughout all of Europe and eventually established the fulfillment of the Third Reich the world over!

@TheKNYHT
I may be fatalistic but I actually don’t think we have a choice in the matter because these interests do not operate within domestic or international law but through commercial code. The Hague wants to be called the “Legal Capital of the world”. And according to the UN the big three are New York, Geneva and the Hague. Do any of these places ever have the appearance of an involvement in or the starting of a war?
Do you know where the largest depository of cash in this country is held? It’s not Fort Knox, Kentucky. Billions pass through it every month. It’s a small non descript building just outside of New York in New Jersey. You’d drive by it on the highway and never know anything was occurring there at all. And that is the nature of these families. They operate in plain view and with a transparency that is untouchable in any court of law.
These bankers have a stranglehold on international finance. These players are beyond evil. They have multi generational inherited family wealth going back hundreds of years. They are not beyond funding both sides of a war and having no interest other than creating wealth. People were up in arms over Halliburton in Iraq but that’s typical all over the planet at any given moment. Think of the Duponts or Dow Chemical who made millions off of Agent Orange, perhaps the most destructive and inhumane chemical ever used in war. They didn’t care if American or Vietcong were killed. There are generational deformities such as missing limbs that still show up in children.
At best I think we need to be rogue elements. Monkey wrenches in the spokes of the machine’s wheels until it is toppled by its own degradation.

@SeventhSense I concur with your observations and conclusions. These families are those who possess the ‘old wealth’ and have such names as the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Rockefellers, Carnegies, Fords, and many others (first two names are actually much older in their generational wealth).
Interestingly enough, these same families are deeply involved in spiritual esoteric philosophies, and are answerable to an even higher authority, a body of men comprised of nine members whose organization is supposedly ‘nameless’.
It’s been said (certainly yet to be proven) that these nine men are awaiting some sign that would indicate the destiny of a single man who will lead this world and its one world government into utopia.
Perhaps we shall see?

@TheKNYHT
Truth is stranger than fiction. When I hear of the strange, arcane and occult practices of groups such as the Masons and other such groups anything is plausible. Their rituals look like B movie seances. The uber wealthy seem to operate from a perspective that they are outside the rules of normal society. The thing is that the innocent always suffer. The ideas put forth about satellite tracking through chips etc sound like science fiction but I could see a country like China easily use methods such as this to control the populace. And I’m sure the F.B.I. or C.I.A. has already employed them. They already limit the use of the internet and control every aspect of society in China. The extent of human rights abuses and persons in prisons for speaking out against the state is appalling. And we deal with them as if they are humanitarians. We should have zero involvement with them if we were really about human rights. Obviously as an organized country we’re not. You start to feel like a conspiracy theory nut at times but we are lied to our face by the government and so it’s really not a stretch.

@SeventhSense
LOL, I am routinely called a “Conspiracy Theorist” but there’s a couple of problem with that label:
One – The powers that be themselves refer to ‘The Plan’ as a conspiracy. I refer to H.G. Wells’ books, particularly “The Open Conspiracy: Blueprints For A World Revolution”. H.G. was well known as a Fabian Socialist.
Two – Its not so much a theory as it is researching things that have already been accomplished, yet has not be exposed by the mainline media.

@SeventhSense, the “uber wealthy” are not some newfangled conspiracy. The wealthy have always been a major pillar of power in pretty much every society.

The wealthy used to equal “the aristocrats” but that changed with the advent of capitalism.

But there are plenty of other pillars of power in our current society, and the world emerges from their struggles and alliances with each other. I think it’s naive to just draw the dots together and assume it’s all coordinated.

@TheKNYHT
Please don’t misundertand. I am not calling you a conspiracy theorist. That was not my intent.
@Qingu
Again the “conspiracy” is hardly a conspiracy but a complicit acceptance of the staus quo by all of us. And like I mentioned:
They have multi generational inherited family wealth going back hundreds of years. I don’t imagine that this is new development.
It can hardly be attributed to luck that a handful of families have managed to maintain their wealth through the rise and fall of monarchies, governments and institutions. They control the methods and in fact created them through our legal sytems.
You said:
..and the world emerges from their struggles and alliances with each other
In fact the only thing that has consistently emerged has been the wealth and means of wealth in the hands of a few. Tens of millions are simply collateral damage.
For example, close to where I live in NY, there are some very wealthy people on Long Island’s North Shore- think Eyes Wide Shut(far fetched movie but you get the idea) huge mansions old money; J.P Morgan, Rockefeller, Rothschild, Duponts etc. And to live and move among them historically, you had to show your ancestry as back to England and or the first settlers from Holland. Old money was key and it was an entrance along with race. New York was both New York and New Amsterdam at one time as well as being the capital of the country. The ultimate Good Old Boy Club-W.A.S.P. only.
I’m not trying to give a History lesson but to show that these persons from the beginning had as much to do with aristocracy as they did with the New World patriots.
The means by which they are moving to directly control wealth-barcodes, digital information, elimination of the gold standard, silver standard etc has slowly been evolving and is nearly complete. These same individuals have precipitated the current crisis and will emerge stronger than ever after having snatched up bargain basement prices on solid corporations. The same corporations which were decimated by the stock market in the past few years. Oh and lo and behold where do people think is the one strong and sure thing to do with their money again? That’s right, put it in solid offshore and domestic banks.

@SeventhSense, the fact that wealthy families stay wealthy is not a conspiracy. It’s part of capitalism. Actually, it predates capitalism in the form of aristocratic families.

Yes, rich people tend to breed wealthy families and they tend to have a lot of power. This isn’t exactly shocking.

@Qingu
You said:
Yes, rich people tend to breed wealthy families and they tend to have a lot of power. This isn’t exactly shocking.

Well when they completely control the means by which all commerce is conducted I find that shocking.
I sell on eBay. Last year they started enacting a rule claiming that personal checks or money orders could no longer be offered as a payment method. All payments would thereafter be electronic merchant accounts. They tell business owners/merchants that they can not accept the method and payment of their choice! And furthermore, this is not the choice of the merchant or customer. You want to pay me with a check and I’m fine with that….BZZZZZZZ…....NO.
I pay sales tax on another business. As of last month, no more paper returns. Streamlined beautifully it would appear. Streamlined beautifully for who? It worked perfectly before.
We are like animals in the zoo who make money for the owners. They are made to believe that here with all its benefits is just like home
Our forefathers warned us about this and the one who controls the wealth is the one who controls the world. How long will it take for the government who is a complete puppet of the Federal Reserve to issue a standard identification card license etc which contains all your vital information to the point whereby they will assign all transactions and debits and credits to your number. How many of us already use debit/credit cards for everything? No gifts, no cash everything traceable. No haggling no control of your own finances. No loopholes. No humanity. Raise taxes. No problem. Swipe your card and we’ll tell you what you pay. No loss of taxes to the government. Every online and store purchase accounted for with no lack of sales tax trail or lack of sales tax paid. It’s perfect for the government. It eliminates all real value in society though because there is nothing passing hands. The government can decide at whim the amount of credits or debits in the society and you are completely a number. Nothing occurs outside of its oversight. They of course will have a separate system for the elite.
The American Revolution was started over a 3–5% tax and we have people today who are willingly being fitted with a collar and leash and they are smiling. It’s sound business principle to maximize the means of production. Eliminate waste.
We have to wake up. Admit it’s frightening yes, but wake up regardless.

@SeventhSense, here’s the problem. You write “when they completely control” as if “they” were a unified front of rich people working to further each other’s interests. In reality, rich people and their families compete against each other. They also have to struggle against newcomers and other “pillars” of society. Google’s CEOs are not old-wealth rich people, for example, and they provide a counterbalancing force to the type of people you’re talking about.

I also don’t understand what you mean when you say we should “wake up.” What does waking up entail?

By wake up I mean resist these changes. The fact of the matter is the Fed “a quasi-public (government entity with private components) banking system” along with the World Bank rules this country and world. The private banking companies connected to the Fed are not elected. If you are looking for a face you won’t find it but the machines and methods of this type of economic hegemony do not need a face. That is their brilliance.
What made it mandatory that all items sold comntained a UPC barcode? Money drove the technology and as long as the basis for technology is driven by money than we move towards a bleak future of persons ruled by the machines of industry. The only problem with this praxis is that it is dependent upon poverty and has as it’s model one of depleting resources that is ruled by the few. There is no equality, justice or liberty in this vision.

@SeventhSense, what alternative are you proposing, exactly? I like having bar codes. I like having technology. It makes my life easier. I think the Fed and the World Bank serve an important purpose—it’s certainly a lot better than having an unregulated market, as numerous depressions show.

They caused the depressions.

Who’s “they”? The Fed certainly didn’t cause the depressions before the 1900’s; it didn’t exist. Neither did the World Bank. And no depression has a single cause.

Once again, you keep on talking about “they” and “them” as if there is a single, unified group. This is why people label you as a conspiracy theorist. The world is not that simple.

Where did we borrow money from after the Civil War?
The Indians?

Please answer my questions.

Who is labelling me as a Conspiracy Theorist? Please read the thread and stop trying to start a fight.
Did you even watch the video that aviona referred? There’s your answer.
It seems that your premise of a proposed cultural bias is driving your argument.
Get back to me after having watched it.

I can’t watch videos currently. And you’re not actually responding to my posts. You’re basically just rambling. And I am calling you a conspiracy theorist because you keep on talking about “them” instead of realizing that problems emerge from multiple causes and actors.

@Qingu
Lets get one thing clear: the fact that old money has been retained by aristocratic/wealthy families for generations isn’t by any means a conspiracy: no one suggested this except you. The fact that these mega-wealthy families are doing things w/o public consent or approval, and in fact are committed to secret or semi-secret projects that will seriously decimate freedom, is certainly conspiratorial in nature.

A conspiracy in one instance is the Federal Reserve, a central bank which is unlawful, and privately owned as well. A central bank privately owned, unaccountable and autonomous weilds far too much power and can dictate the economic course of a nation.
Try mailing something to the Federal Reserve and solicit information; when you get a response you will see postage on their envelope. No branch of the government requires postage on mail, but they have it on their mail. That shows they are privatized.
As far as your allegation that “there is no one cause for a depression” well, I can name one cause, and its the primary one. People think that depressions are a result of economics, but its not true: its a monetary matter.
When you work and earn wages, the money you get is worked for; yet the government prints its money for free. When they print exorbitant amounts of currency (backed by nothing: no gold, no silver, nothing but the cost of some ‘paper’ and ink with the picture of some dead president on it)or direct currency to ‘float’ to the mainland, that devalues each dollar thats in cirrulation. The more dollars, the less each is valued, prices rise. Besides the which the FED RESERVE is the largest generator of intentional DEBT in the world!
I made an error intentionally: I called these monies ‘dollars’ but they are not, they are Federal Reserve notes. A dollar according to the Websters Dictionary copyrighted in 1934 is defined “a unit of money based on gold or silver.” Thats very different than the definition you see currently. There’s no mention of gold or silver because we’re off the gold and silver standard.
A good book to read on this subject is by G. Edward Griffin, Creature From Jekyll Island.

Another ‘conspiracy’ of sorts: the formation of the EU; citizens from individual nations were oppossed to it when the Maastricst (sp?) Treaty was enacted, because they realized they would lose their national sovereign rights. They rallied together and contacted their political officials in all members of EFTA (European equivalent to our NAFTA) and protested; they were reassured by the various officials that they would vote against it. When the time came however, all of the offical leadership in EFTA voted it in.

Seventh mentioned again and again who “they” and “them” are, the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, DuPont, etc, but to make it simpler, just call them the Council on Foreign Relation, an organization that is a semi-secret front organization promoting world governance and the deletion of America’s national sovereignty.
Their current goal is to regionalize the world, dismantling sovereign states, and forming “Unions” like the EU.
I mentioned that EFTA and NAFTA are similar both in structure and intent. Henry Kissinger said that NAFTA was more about the establishing of a new world order rather than a Trade Agreement.

A long held motto by those who operate behind the scenes (Bildebergers are a fine example), who dictate policy and global directions w/o a single member of any of these organizations being authorized to do so by a voting public, is “ordro ab chao”.
Create a problem, cause a public outcry, ‘solve’ the problem and in so doing centralize power they (Bildebergers, CFR, Trilateral Commission, WTO, IMF, and others) themselves will wield.

Finally @SeventhSense Yes, I know you weren’t calling ME a conspiracy theorist, but I do get called that frequently by those I rant and rave at re: these and related subjects.

http://www.baltische-rundschau.eu/2009/03/01/global-bank-global-currency-within-15-years/

A Global bank and currency is described in the link above.

@The KNYHT
Thank you
I would hope that what we are all trying to do is address ideas, priciples and systems and not discrediting people. Principles before personalities.

From that link:

“The globalists created the problem of wildly irresponsible fractional reserve banking, the debt bubble and the credit crunch by ceaselessly inflating the money supply and now they are offering their solution to the crisis by posing as the saviors and promising to fix the crisis, but only if complete control of the global financial system be signed over to them.”

Why is the Fed unlawful?

How exactly was the Fed’s monetary policy the “primary cause” of the great depression? You just rambled there without supporting your assertion.

Why do you believe “the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, DuPont, the Council on Foreign Relation” are a unified front with the same interests? And even if they are, why do you refuse to acknowledge that these people must compete with other powerful people for influence, such as (for example) the CEO’s of Google?

Why would a global bank and currency be a bad thing? And why would it require a conspiracy to create when a lot of people support it? (You mentioned the EU—many people wanted to voluntary join the EU, it was not a conspiracy).

You seem to have this circular argument where any movements towards federalization or globalization must be the result of a conspiracy, because only a conspiracy could be responsible for movements towards federalization or globalization. Can you support either assertion?

@Qingu
you asked: Why is the Fed unlawful?
I already answered: the Federal Reserve, a central bank which is unlawful, and privately owned as well. A central bank privately owned, unaccountable and autonomous weilds far too much power and can dictate the economic course of a nation.

Congress is to coin money, not a private organization, and Congress is supposed to be answerable to the people. Fed Reserve is not answerable to any one but themselves.

You asked: How exactly was the Fed’s monetary policy the “primary cause” of the great depression?

I already (in part) answered that: People think that depressions are a result of economics, but its not true: its a monetary matter.
When you work and earn wages, the money you get is worked for; yet the government prints its money for free. When they print exorbitant amounts of currency (backed by nothing: no gold, no silver, nothing but the cost of some ‘paper’ and ink with the picture of some dead president on it)or direct currency to ‘float’ to the mainland, that devalues each dollar thats in cirrulation. The more dollars, the less each is valued, prices rise. When prices go beyond any means for commerce, it breaks the system, and one can either get hyper-inflation or a depression (I assumed you would already recognize this as a result of the devaluing of the dollar).

You asked: Why would a global bank and currency be a bad thing?
“The globalists created the problem of wildly irresponsible fractional reserve banking, the debt bubble and the credit crunch by ceaselessly inflating the money supply and now they are offering their solution to the crisis by posing as the saviors and promising to fix the crisis, but only if complete control of the global financial system be signed over to them.”

The EU was not supported by the majority of Eurpeans once the Maastricst Treaty was signed back in 1992, and even today struggles for acceptance in the form of their European Constitution.
http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2007/1123/

By no means am I suggesting that globalization is conspiratorial in nature by NECESSITY; pick up a newspaper and in today’s world we can read about it almost any day of the week.
What is conspiratorial is the centralization of power not in the hands of officials and leaders who will maintain accountablity to the people, but in the autonomous ranks of the uber-wealth that desire total subjugation of the planet’s populace.

You may call my arguments circular if you wish (its a free contry – - – still), but I think not, based on your say so alone. Perhaps you can support your assertion? ; )

BTW, you would be better served to either secure a copy of Creature From Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin, or google the title and author and see what you can find there.

Sorry to jump in on your conversation. I thought I would like to add a little excerpt from Alan Greenspan Himself.
From Gold and Economic Freedom written in 1967
“The excess credit which the Fed pumped into the economy spilled over into the stock market—triggering a fantastic speculative boom. Belatedly, Federal Reserve officials attempted to sop up the excess reserves and finally succeeded in braking the boom. But it was too late: by 1929 the speculative imbalances had become so overwhelming that the attempt precipitated a sharp retrenching and a consequent demoralizing of business confidence. As a result, the American economy collapsed. Great Britain fared even worse, and rather than absorb the full consequences of her previous folly, she abandoned the gold standard completely in 1931, tearing asunder what remained of the fabric of confidence and inducing a world-wide series of bank failures. The world economies plunged into the Great Depression of the 1930’s.”