Is there anything to do about a known rapist walking free?

Have you gone to the police? In your entire answer you do not say this, and this is the first step in pursuing actual justice. Making the police aware of this serial rapist is the first step. Maybe they will be able to persuade some of the victimized girls into testifying.

I would recommend talking to the police before attempting street justice… but if the cops aren’t going to do anything, maybe your way is the most effective way. I can’t recommend it personally.

Hearsay is just that – hearsay.

If the girls won’t testify – then there is little you can do. Our justice system works for us and for the wrongdoers – equally.

Do not take this into your own hands. You will enter into the side of wrongdoing – and justice will be swift.

I know you are concerned, but his time will come.

It’s become more than heresay…there’s actual video footage that exists, I know this for a fact, even though I myself have never seen it. And no, I haven’t gone to the police. I don’t think my female friends would appreciate me going to the police and giving their name out without their consent. It is a private and embarassing thing and I don’t want to do more harm than good by opening up old wounds.

Unless the footage is undeniably rape footage, then it is still all hearsay. Intent and consensual sex is hard to disprove from footage.

Street justice is a bad idea for more reasons then ten. He might have friends, too. Maybe even friends with guns? I’m not comfortable when you say “plenty of girls”. If that’s the case, surely ONE would come forward.

Either you go to the police anonymously or you try to convince the girls to. Otherwise you do nothing.

It can’t be that hard to prove if the girl is laying passed out and not moving…right? How the hell can it be hard to discern?

The police are the ones who should be conducting any investigation. Otherwise, you risk hurting their case by giving them evidence that they did not properly obtain.

You don’t have to give out their names. But seriously, the only thing to do in this situation is to go to the police and tell them everything, that you have huge suspicions that a person you know is a serial rapist, that you know of females who have had suspicious encounters with this man, and that video evidence may exist.

That sounds like a good start dynamicduo thank you for your suggested solution to this serious problem.

I wonder if, since you know about this, that if you DON’T go to the police you become an accessory after the fact.

Then that would make up half the people living in my neighborhood along with everyone else who knows him…

Well none have come forward Mr. M. And I do believe that I’m part of the problem knowing what’s going on and just not doing anything. What if it were your sister? Your cousin? Your mom? Would you say the same thing? You weren’t there so hearing it would be heresay, no? Would it still be ok to disregard it as heresay?

@boywonder i dont see what the problem is you seem to know that the guy is doing wrong, and know that there is evidence and know that the police need to be notified then just do it.

and telling the police is not doing more harm then good.

There would be no way I would tell you to beat up this man regardless of WHO the women are. You WILL go to jail or pay BIG civil penalties.

Now what else concerns me is that SO MANY people know of this and no one is saying anything to the police? The way YOU know the girls OTHER people must know them too. I don’t understand why no one is doing anything HOWEVER I DO feel there IS a reason.

Proving a rape allegation pretty much requires the testimony of the woman who was raped. If the women do not want to go to the police, there’s not much you can do.

If my sister or mother were one of the victims, I’d encourage her and support her in going to the police. But what you’re advocating sounds like vigilante justice, and that’s no better than the original problem.

You definitely want to avoid going all Charlie Bronson on the guy. Probably not worth going to jail. Of course you could entrap him or frame him somehow. You could plant something somewhere, then call it in. I’ve heard of such things occurring.

The reason is, as i mentioned way up top, is that most of this stuff went on when they were underage, so imagine having to tell your parents or having a cop tell your parents that their 13, 14 year old daughter was raped…maybe they were cutting school at the time or maybe they were with someone who brought them over to the guy’s house, maybe the guy pretended to not have bad intentions and sweeten them up, I don’t know the details of the luring…but I do know that it doesn’t make it right for it to happen. So can we not blame the victim here?

Have you considered they don’t want to testify because they’re not sure? Or, as is very rare, they’re just taking out their anger?

Several girls, you know personally, and not one is willing to make a report? Either he’s a seriously special brand of twisted or somethings up.

As depressing and disturbing as I find it, I have known girls to make up preteen / teen rape stories for attention. I don’t think it’s common, but I know it happens.

I think that the reason why the girls were at his house on the first place is not important. Parents will not mind if any of these girls were cutting school or something, the most important thing is that they got raped! You need to convince your friends to come forward and get this guy because for all you know, you could be next!!!!!! If these allegations are true, this guy needs to be in jail.

Just tell the cops, you’re in no way equipped to deal with this, and you shouldn’t try to convince yourself that you are.

If the neighborhood knows then surely your parents do. What do your parents say? And if they don’t know, you should TELL THEM exactly what you told us.

@ asmonet: How do YOU know I’m not equipped to deal with it? I would just rather do it the right way than the gratifying way…and FYI these are really good friends of mine (who don’t even know each other) and they have no reason to lie about anything like this.

@ everyone: I’m gonna go to the precinct later. I’ll let you know what they say, however I already have an idea what will be said. “I can’t do anything about it because the girls who this happened to, has to do it themselves…bla bla bla.”

I would imagine if you had the training or expertise to handle the situation without hindering the laws efforts, your first thought would have been COPS, not FLUTHER.

@BoyWonder: Blaming the victim is saying that it’s the victim’s fault that she got raped, because she should have known better. That’s not what’s happening here.

Without at least one girl willing to come forward and say “I was raped,” it will be next to impossible for a prosecutor to convict the man as a rapist, because the defense attorney will say, “If he raped so many people, why won’t one of them come forward?” Instant reasonable doubt.

So the prosecutor, who’s overworked, won’t even file a case he doesn’t have a shot at winning. The police won’t bother with a criminal who can’t be convicted, especially if the strongest thing they have to go on is “Everyone in the neighborhood knows he’s guilty!”

So until you have at least one victim willing to step forward and say she was raped, you’re spinning your wheels. Your best bet at getting him in jail is to encourage them and support them when they come forward. The police are probably going to tell you the same thing.

Having several victims not wanting to come forward isn’t really all that odd, especially considering the circumstances. Underage, possibly skipping school, drinking underage – these girls – if it really did happen – have things that they may not want to tell mom and dad about and what it led to – a rape. I’m not saying that the rape was their fault; however, if they are underage, the might think they can’t say anything because of all the “wrong” things that were done, before the rape. He could have said something and it probably won’t have taken very much to convince them to convince them that they would get in trouble for being there in the first place, after all, they were drinking. again, I don’t believe it would have been their fault, I’m just saying it would be very easy for him to turn this around on the victims.

When I was assaulted, I didn’t want anyone to know – but I did speak to someone. When I reported it, I found out that I wasn’t the only one. 11 girls came forward. 11. There might have been as many as 20, but no one else would speak up. There is no way of knowing whether or not a victim will speak up – it’s so damn humiliating that some would rather hide. When there are other factors (such as drinking/ underage drinking) there is this tiny little voice that is saying, “Did I say yes?” or even, “Did this really happen?” The police, well, they have to examine all sides of the situation, they might question the victim more, because of other factors.

If this is truly happening, this guy knows that the alcohol can cause a problem for the victim, especially since they were underage. He’s not dumb. He’s a monster, but not dumb.

If you have a suspicion, tell someone. Don’t handle this yourself, it could cause a lot of problems that only cloud the situation, not to mention that you could wind up being prosecuted.

Not only was I a victim, I have volunteered at a Battered Women Shelter for over a decade now, I generally deal with women that have been raped and have been on a downward spiral ever since they were attacked. A small percentage of these women actually reported the crime, many of them didn’t – because of the situation they were in, at the time of the attack. (party, drunk, they were some place where they weren’t supposed to be – you name it.) Coming forward is only the beginning of the ordeal, for a rape victim.

@cak I clicked “lurve” but I want to thank you again for this reply.

me too…

There is a serial Rapist roaming San Diego California. My friend was kidnapped and raped by him. He has ten previous charges of rape but, is very good at beating the system. The police have done nothing. Law enforcement is on the side of the rapist. Since he is the accused, you have to prove it. They know this, and the police for what ever reason are not sympathetic to the victim. It is horrible and disgusting!!! I love my friend and it breaks my heart every day she suffers, with the horrible memories and knowing this bastard roams free and has probably raped again since her.

@ChazMaz : I am so sorry to hear that. There is absolutely no excuse for the police to act that way. I’ve know about several cases like this and the police does absolutely nothing. One time, a girl was kidnapped and used for prostitution. When this girl was set free, the police wanted to have an interview with her, alone with another man. When the girl refused to be alone with a man, the police said that she was being un-cooperative and that there was nothing they could do!!
How is it possible !! There should be willing to help a victim, not treat a victim like trash.

And good luck with crisis centers and rape hotlines. It is like chasing your tail. It took me two days of phone calls to get someone that would be willing to talk and not pass me to another phone number. But I will say this, I am a man, I might not know the depth of the pain, but I stood by her side helping her through this, what else could I do. I love her. Please anyone that this happes or happened to, get help. Right away. Talk to someone, don’t hold it in. You will make the best decission as to how to go foward that is best for you. But talk, write things down. You have family and friends that love you. And, family and friends are there for you to lean on.