Can a security guard really call the POs?

What’s a PO?

Um, have you considered that speeding through the complex makes you a menace to society? And a potential cat/kid killer?

My son is a security guard, and he gets paid to make sure people follow the rules. He would lose his job if he didn’t. Yes, he is required to call the police (if that’s what PO means)when he sees someone breaking the law.

So let me get this straight, your driving like an asshole and your surprised that a security guard doesnt take kindly to you. Is that right?

You seem like a stressed out and angry person.
Relax! Take a deep breath and consider the fact that there ARE other people living around you, and that everything you do has an effect on them. And that INCLUDES hitting them when you are speeding.

Yes, the securityguards can (and SHOULD) report you to the police, and if it’s their word against yours: Whos word do you think they’ll listen to? The people hired to protect the community you live in, or some funky-smelling guy everyone knows who is?

Yes, the securityguards can deny you acces to your flat/appartment if you break the rules, IT’S THEIR JOB!

Btw: Didn’t you ask this question yesterday?

No earlier this morning, but I didn’t see it post.

I have had 13 tickets, never convicted of one, and not an accident to this day. I am a good careful driver just a fast one. People know I am coming and I give them a lot of time to get out of my way.

Do you think it would be easy to get the ticket dismissed, seeing as the cop never saw me do the crime, and it is only a lowly security guard’s testimony (if she shows up…).

EDIT: Ohh ya. The PO is the police. Po Po = PO = police = probation officer (depends on how its used).

Why dont you just slow the fuck down until you get out of your complex then?

I’m glad you don’t live near me. I would probably not be fast enough to get out of “your” way. Also I would imagine that your attitude spills over into your other behavior and probably does not make you an asset to the community.

And if your profile is any indication, you have already flunked out of charm school once. Detention it is, where you can’t hurt small children and pets.

@Ownage
I couldn’t find it eather…
But please, don’t call the securityguards ‘lowly’. They have a job to do, and I’m guessing the one you call the ‘asshole’ is the one that’s doing her job the best.

And I find it scary that you are so in touch with the police that you actually have a ‘shortname’ for them that only you understand…

But to call you a safe driver, now THAT’S bs. If you drive fast your not safe. And if you drive safe, you don’t give people time to get out of your way.

Just relax! You’ll live longer that way ;)

It might vary, but in Illinois they have all the authority as a police officer except arrest (but they can hold you till an officer gets there) it is also a class X felony to refuse a Security Guards order.

It sounds like you are the kind of person the community hired security to stop

Hey! Wow. Are you the guy that totaled my husband’s truck, while I was driving? Did I mention that I was stopped, with a left turn signal on, in a left turn lane waiting to have a clearing for to turn safely? You know what the guy said to me, that plowed into me? “I’m a really safe driver. I’ve never been convicted of a ticket.” Very comforting for me, especially when I spent time in the hospital and we had to purchase a replacement truck, since that safe driver so carefully plowed into the truck…at 47mph, in a 25 mph. I wasn’t even in his lane. he just looked away long enough to wave “hi” to a buddy.

Yes, they can and will call the police.

Oh, hey – those state required minimums – yeah, good luck with that when you do cause property damage and/or kill someone with your safe driving. By the time the insurance company pays out and then you are sued and held liable for the rest, you’ll be declaring bankruptcy, but that won’t release you from your liability to the person that sues you. Also, the legal costs – pretty pricey. OH…the best part of that little “risk you can take because you have insurance,” won’t keep you out of jail if you seriously harm someone or kill them. Then have fun with your new boyfriend…Bubba.

You have a very twisted way of looking at things, a very dangerous way. Insurance isn’t a pass that says, “Go ahead! Drive like an asshole!” It’s to protect you – from many things, including uninsured or under insured drivers. When you use the insurance, it has a nasty little habit of jumping, a lot.

You only have to be a careless driver once to hit a child

Yeah, he was the one that asked the question earlier. He just left out that the security guard was African American this time. And yeah, it was bolded in his last question that was deleted.

@johnpowell – Wow. It just keeps getting better and better.

security guards should be respected if you are a civilian. that is to say, if you are not a PO or a police officer (specifically) the policy or law of the area or land or territory should be respected whether you want to abide by the security guard’s orders or not. he or she is just doing their job to secure premises or maintain control.

they may not be police officers or they even may be police officers on second jobs. it is up to you to respect policy or laws they are enforcing.

No children live in the complex we live in, nor cats.

This guy does drive like an asshole in his truck. He almost got me killed one night!

@cak you spoke to soon :P

Sigh.

You never respected security guards because they’re not real police officers? They’re real security guards who do important work… like working to keep your community safe from people who think they’re above the law (like you). The one who seems to care is the one who is doing his or her job the best.

I hope they do call the police, and hopefully a nice big ol’ ticket will help you get your head out of your ass.

@Triiiple, this questioner is someone you actually know?

I second @Jeruba – @Triiiple do you live with @Ownage ?

Beware @Ownage of that cocky attitude about “safe” driving. You cannot control the environment and if you are fast it is only a matter of time before the environment will throw a situation in front of you that does not give you the time to stop.

Speed laws are intended to provide a cushion to avoid accidents. If you are habitually removing the time cushion by going fast an accident is inevitable.
I hope you slow down. And if you do not I hope you do not hurt or kill anyone including yourself.

@Triiiple No children live in your neighborhood… so they never visit?

@Ownage You said you give people notice you’re coming and let them get out of your way (in what other ways does the world revolve around you?). This makes me think you’re one of those considerate community members who makes their car really loud… And if they miss your cues that you’re coming?

This question honestly annoys the shit out of me. Who the hell do you think you are that you think you have the right to look down upon people who work hard to keep your community safe? Why do you get to disobey the traffic laws that are in place to keep people safe? What makes you such a special snowflake?

@Likeradar: I was hit once by a woman who decided that going 25 miles an hour in a residential area was too damn slow for her. She ran me over and after four days in the ICU and two surgeries, I was able to keep my left foot, barely. It was many years before I could cross that street again. People like that woman and Ownage think they don’t have to obey the traffic laws because they are good drivers. I was very very lucky. I escaped with my life and all of my limbs intact. However, I am 20 years old and I am developing arthritis in that ankle. I can’t ice skate, run, be on my feet for more than an hour without pain and limping. Traffic laws are there to protect everyone.

@KatawaGrey But did this woman let you know she was coming? Did you not get out of her way in the amount of time she decided you should? ~

I’m sorry this happened to you. Did that self-centered woman have to pay your medical bills? I know that doesn’t help your injuries and quality of life, though…

edited to add… I’m not trying to imply the quality of your life isn’t great. :)

@Likeradar: Actually, because it happened in New Jersey and I’m from CT, my mother’s insurance had to pay. Damn stupid, if you ask me. Oh, and it must have been my fault because I remember her asking me over and over again why I ran in front of her car.

My quality of life is quite good, and that’s my point. I was lucky, rare, an oddity. I can walk on my own two feet. I still have my own two feet. How often does someone escape a horrible accident like that?

Thank you for your kind words. It was more than 7 years ago, but it still haunts me. This year was the first year I didn’t remember the day until after it passed. :)

I hope Ownage comes back to read this thread and uses the big lump that’s about 3 feet above his ass to realize his selfish behavior can have serious repercussions that are way, way worse than a ticket.

@uberbatman – it’s been like that all day. I should have know better.

No, no children live here. Ive only seen like 2 kids in my complex and ive lived here for 3 years. Its college affiliated housing for students in the form of an apartment complex.

I do know him. I wouldnt say hes the worst driver but i know how he dips around the complex in his Manual truck jumpin that clutch every time he attempts to shift gears haha.

There are some security guards who do make it their business to mess with us though so i can see where hes coming from.

God damn. Simple question turns into all this. Thanks to those who actually answered my question. Yes, I do understand what happens if I speed. If I speed, I get taxed. I get a ticket and have to pay the damn lawyer again. Ya it sucks. If I get into an accident I have the state mandated $10k PIP + health insurance to cover me. I would say I’m str8…

If you are a security guard, do your job like someone earning $10/hour max would do…..... (well unless your a manager possibly making $12…... its caring time now).

To the woman who got plowed by the trucker. Know your rights, you have the power to sue.
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@Ownage LOL, pay your phone bill its disconnected son.

Ya I jus did. Class is wack so atleast i can do some productive shit like pay my bill and FLUTHER!!! Ahh 17% battery left nooooo

lol your ignorance is baffling.

Simple answer to the question: anyone can call the police.

I hope they do.

@Ownage – Are you serious? “Do your job like someone earning $10 an hour max would do?” How exactly is that, Ownage? Clearly, she is doing her job. Why so disrespectful to those that want to do a good job, not merely adequate.

Regardless of whether or not there are children in your complex, you are still a danger to other people. Also, why pay lawyer’s fees to get out of tickets, what about trying to obey the law and go the speed limit? Think of all the money you could have saved. or are you spending your parent’s money?

@Jeruba – I agree.

“If I get into an accident I have the state mandated $10k PIP + health insurance to cover me”.

What about the other person? The KatawaGrey who is left with a permanent injury because of you? You aren’t the only person in the world. Rather than bask in your own self righteousness all day, how about thinking about the consequences that being an asshole driver could have for other people?

@Ownage: Yeah, I could sue. I’m lucky enough to still be alive and still have the mental capacity to sue. I’m lucky enough that I could still drive to the courthouse and walk into the courtroom. I’m lucky that I am physically still intact. Fine, there are no kids in your complex. Guess what, you can still hit other people. The chances that they will survive unscathed are very very low. But, hey, who cares about that, right? As long as you come out of all right, does it matter how much you hurt someone? Of course not! But, oh, wait, what if you don’t come out all right? What if someone else in your complex decided to drive just as quickly and stupidly as you? Then you could kill each other. But, that would never happen to you, right?

@petethepothead: Oh, I’m developing a little fluther crush!

I had a friend who was driving very slowly down a quiet street where there were cars parked close together. A five-year-old girl darted out between two of the parked cars and was killed when she ran in front of my friend’s car.

He never recovered, although it was not his fault. The child should have been supervised. But still, the “what if’s” did not change the outcome.

I had a lovely, kind, compassionate, smart, and giving friend who was killed by a speeding driver at age 25. He was going too fast down a street that pedestrians usually aren’t crossing, even though it is legal for them to do so.

His name was published publicly. There was a drawn out trial. He was punished (although not severely enough, IMHO). Her family is missing a sister, daughter, cousin, and friend. The community is missing someone who was passionate about volunteering and who had a smile for everyone. He has to live with what he did, and the memory of that crunching noise and seeing blonde hair and a lifeless body covered with blood on his windshield.

But he had insurance… so like you, Ownage, I would say he’s “str8,” right?~

I wonder if Ownage realizes that this sampling of attitudes probably reflects the views of the people in his complex and most everyone who has ever seen him drive; that most of them probably have a name for him in their heads; that residents might have been calling on the security staff to clamp down on him; that the one guard who stops him may be the only one who has the courage to do what all of them know they ought to be doing. I wonder how it will be if he ever needs the goodwill of his neighbors.

I wonder if he has ever thought about what it would be like for him if someone close to him were run down by a speeding driver: his little sister, his grandmother, his son.

This spoiled, self-centered, arrogant child will know better one day, possibly at great personal cost. I hope he doesn’t kill anyone in the meantime.

@Jeruba I hope Ownage realizes it, but I doubt it. The wording of the q (especially the wording before it was modded), his replies in this thread and in others, and how he chooses to represent himself on his profile page make me think he’s a spoiled, inconsiderate man-child with a very thick head and an extreme sense of entitlement.

Hopefully, I’m wrong.

He’s actually pretty chill and smart though he does type like a dumb ass. He goes to UCF.

@Triiiple You sure can’t tell that by the profile, it sounds more like @Likeradar has described.

@YARNLADY Apparently, @triiiple and @ownage are are friends IRL.

@Triiiple- Typing like a dumb ass is one thing. Typing about your dumb ass values and opinions is something different entirely. Where someone goes to school has zero to do with the person’s character.

“If I get into an accident I have the state mandated $10k PIP + health insurance to cover me”.

When my BIL was hit by a ‘good driver’, the judge awarded him all of the guys “state minimum” insurance, his collage fund, his house, and when he gets out of jail, he still will still owe another $112,000

Im just saying hes really not a stupid person. I guess he just doesnt care how fast he goes when he drives? Meh, thats him not me.

@DrBill, was your BIL disabled?

@Jeruba

He was on crutches for about 6 weeks, no permanent damage.

Wow, the judge sure wanted to make certain that “good driver” was good and sorry. Imagine if it had been an injury like KatawaGrey’s.

i am an armed security patrol officer in texas.i just wanted to say thank you all for your respect and support. it means a lot that some members of society dont think of us as police academy drop outs or military rejects, especially since ive served honorably in both.