Are you satisfied with the current Presidential front runners?
Barack Obama?
Rudy Guiliiani?
Please detail your yes or no answers with why. Also, if you don’t mind, who is a better alternative?
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NO! The “front-runners” are media and corporate backed candidates. I am a working class American. I talk to working class Americans every day. The number one complaint I hear about in the country is Corporitism, yet none of these people watch the debate, they rely on the “news” to tell them about the candidates. I don’t let the media tell me who to vote for. Ive watched every debate on both sides. Notice how you barely hear about Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul. Do a little video hunting on youtube, see how they are a threat to the establishment, and see why the corporate owned media will not talk about these guys. I know money isn’t everything, but to say someone like Ron Paul doesn’t have a chance, is absurd. Last quarter Rudy raised the most money among Rep candidates with 10.4 mil, backed alot of lobbyist and corporations. SO FAR this quarter, Ron Paul has raised 11.4 mil, with another big day coming on dec 16. On Nov 5, he raised 4.3 mil in one day. The best part Is that his campaign had NOTHING to do with it. It is all grassroots. Another grassroots project Is a blimp leaving north carolina for Boston tomorrow. There is a very good reason people are excited about him.
And why trust these polls when they are done by the same two companies or corporate owned media who names these “front-runners”? Polls are very influential for people the sheep that dont pay attention to what is going on. The polls scare me alot, mostly because of the HBO documentary, Hacking Democracy, along with many other articles, because of the simplicity of hacking the Diebold touch screen voting machines. If they can influence the polls, then it only makes it that much more easy to get away with hacking the machines to their liking.
No, I’m not happy with any of the current candidates. I won’t be voting this year: I believe that when I vote it should be to positively support someone I actually like, not to choose the best of bad worlds. These people are a bunch of idiots who want to work within the coordinates of the possible to give us the same old crap (and, per chris6137, to keep corporate power living well). I am deeply disappointed in my country, in the people’s ability to let a single event blind them politically for almost a decade, in the recurrent lack of political vision or fervor, in our unwillingness to complain when all of the options suck (NOT our fault, given the media monopolies), in the continuance of hate and legal injustice so long after the civil rights movements supposedly “did their job,” and in what my friends from other nations now think of me because I put up with such an atrocity. I would leave in an instant if the job market for my profession were half as good elsewhere. Then again, I feel like someone ought to be responsible for staying around and feeling ashamed…or else for throwing the bricks and fighting the cops when the time comes.
It is certainly discouraging. Read Gail Collins’ column in the NYT on the Rep. candidates’ debate – yesterday? Registration is easy and free.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/13/opinion/13collins.html?th&emc=th
Sample: ”
The Republican pack is one extremely unappealing bunch of politicians, and it’s no wonder that the poor voters have developed buyers’ remorse before they’ve come near the cash register. Huckabee is this week’s exercise in avoidance, and he’s not likely to be the last.”
The Dems.willl have their turn under her microscope, I am sure.
Most of ‘em I wouldn’t want to share a cab or Christmas dinner with. On either side. Hmm… if Ron Paul raised all that money without the help of evil corporations, I wonder where it came from. . . Illuminati? Freemasons? Zionists? The Trilateral Commission? Chicomms? Or, worst of all, the Kennedys? :)
how about working class Americans that are fed up like myself. Ronpaulforums.com. Go talk to some of em. On the day he raised 4.3 mil, the average donation was $128
@hossman
I know you are smarter than that. Why those assumptions?
As much as I cringe to agree with Chris on this (no offense, Chris, but you’ve got to admit, you’re not doing Ron Paul any favors among the Jellyfish), I’ve got to go with Ron Paul. He’s the only candidate I’ve heard in my lifetime who truly wants to change the status quo. Seems many of his detractors are afraid that he’ll bring about the end of America as we know it. While I disagree, at this point I have to ask, would that be so bad?
Of course I’m not satisfied with them (or any candidates that I’m aware of). I watch the debates, listen to interviews, and I still have no idea what any of them stand for – they all seem to just use the standard answers that they think everyone wants to hear.
no…..abe lincoln or ron regan for president
I look for Ron Paul to pull a Ross Perot and split the vote 3 ways, thus ruining any hope of NOT have Hillary Clinton and her wife Bill back in the Whitehouse.
Non-of the candidates are particularly impressive to me.
@glial; Don’t forget what Ralph Nader did to the 2004 elections. But, it is all a mess and truly confusing and depressing, as Syg says.
I’m not sure Ron Paul would pull enough votes to make a 3rd party run significantly affect the election. He’d be more like the Libertarian or Communist candidate than Ross Perot or Ralph Nader. If Clinton gets the nod and Obama ran as a 3rd party candidate. . .
And chris, I’m kidding, dude. I don’t think Paul is getting the Bilderberg campaign money anytime soon.
Hint: Bilderberg = new conspiracy theory for you. Google away. Merry Christmas. :)
I got ya Hossman. Sorry if Im a little defensive on this site. Can you really blame me? And I have read about the Bilderbergs. Im not all that interested in them. But they DO exist. Im not quite sure how powerful they are, but the Rockafellers and Rothchilds have been around for a long long time.
One more question, if Dr. Paul was to run as a third party candidate would he be in the general election debates with the other two candidates? Was Nader? Merry Christmas to you too.
Yor mentioned Obama and Guiliani so that’s who I’ll discuss.
I lived in NYC under Rudy’s mayoral tenure and let me tell you, the man rules with an iron fist. You think Bush has no regard for public opinion? You ain’t seen nothing yet. Rudy was like some sort of totalitarian regime. I am completely afraid of him as commander in chief. (especially with all the loaded guns of executive privilege lying about) We would have absolutely zero transparency if Rudy were in charge. Plus, ya wanna talk terror stategy? Rudy put the office of Emergency Management in the World trade plaza AFTER it had already been attacked in 93. Real smart.
I have always been a fan of Obama. I believe he represents a return to the faith in American values. There is a newfound sense of hope in his tone. Those who question his experience forget that Bush had less. Anyone from Texas will tell you that Governor of Texas is about the fifth most powerful job in the state, just below agriculture commissioner. Editor of the Harvard Law Review is a position that some have called second in importance to President. (Sorry I can’t cite source.) For those Americans who are looking for a change from the status quo in politics, I believe Barak Obama is the only reasonable democratic choice. Paul’s a Kook! Sorry Chris.
What exactly makes Paul a kook breedmitich? The fact that everything he represents is all for freedom and our constitution? Please explain why you feel that way? Dont go by what the news tells you. They dont explain in full detail his reasons.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cs-0AXWV8so
How can you not respect someone like that?
Is it that kooky??
Research the Council of Foreign Relations. Your boy Barak is right up in that, along with his wife. They want a one world govt. And the North American Union (it IS real) is taking us right into a one world government.
Watch Glenn Beck on Tuesday. Dr. Paul will be on for a full hour. Then well talk.
Rudy Guliiani is not a front runner.
He was at the time of this question in the National polls
He’s not now. Who really is I guess we’ll see on Tuesday?
Is “barf” a valid answer? I liked Romney’s executive experience but even then he wasn’t all that…
i am not interested in politics, president is the one who bring good life to me,
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