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Crusader's avatar

What do you all value most, Love, (Charity,) Faith , or Hope, in what order, (or not)please explain your reasoning.

Asked by Crusader (576points) May 20th, 2009

Also, if you would like to include accountability, honesty, and charity, in terms of importance, and explain why that would be nice..

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Fyrius's avatar

You want us to order those according to our personal priorities?
Let’s see.

Charity.
Honesty and accountability.
Hope.
Love.
Faith.

I’m going to put honesty and accountability on the same level of importance.
Altruism (charity) is to me the only thing that can trump these, in some rare situations. But honesty and accountability are principles of integrity, obligations that take precedence over luxuries like hope, love and faith.
Of those three, hope is most important; I think it’s a prerequisite for personal happiness.
Love is great, but one can also live a happy life alone, so that goes under hope.
As for faith… well…
...let’s not go there.

ragingloli's avatar

1. honesty and accountability. one of the basics of a functioning society.
2. charity. another factor that helps a society function better
3. love, because it furthers peaceful interpersonal relations and by extension a more peace ful society
4. hope, because one wishes for the better outcome while fully aware that it might not happen. also a good motivator
5. faith, believing without or even contrary to evidence. it hinders progression of society. i place no value on faith whatsoever, and rightly so.

hearkat's avatar

Love… without it, all others are meaningless. It gives us something to hope for and to have faith in, it makes us feel empathy and inspires us to be charitable. Love gives us humility and respect for others, so we are honest and forthright, and take responsibility for our actions.

My definition of Love may be broader than that of others… I am not referring to romantic love or affection and admiration of platonic relationships; to me, Love is the meaning of life, the ‘Force’ or ‘spirit’ or ‘god’ that connects us all. And for me Fear is the opposite of Love. Hate is borne of Fear… fear of the unknown, fear of losing that which we are attached to (what many call “love”), fear of being rejected or alone.

Facade's avatar

Love is definitely first on my list.

ru2bz46's avatar

Love
Faith
Hope
Honesty
Accountability
Charity

Everything else is based on love. First, you must love yourself; otherwise, you will not be able to give love to others.

Faith is knowing what is true without doubt. It is not necessarily religious or spiritual. Without faith, you may never have the passion to do what know is right regardless of what others try to tell you. This is where your gut feelings come from.

Hope is needed to pick up the pieces of shattered dreams or mistakes.

Honesty is the virtue needed so that others can trust you.

Accountability will bring you respect from yourself and others.

Charity. Once you take care of yourself, you may take care of others. If you give to the point of needing charity yourself, you’ve gone backwards.

NaturalMineralWater's avatar

Being a Christian my order is:
Love – God is love. Our focus should be on Him first.
Faith – Without faith you cannot experience the fullness of God’s love.
CharityFaith without works is dead.
Hope – All things combined, our charity can bring hope to others. And what goes around comes around.

cak's avatar

Honesty and Accountability
Love
Hope and Faith
Charity

I value honesty and accountability, first. Without those, what are you? You are your word, stand by it. It’s the one thing you truly have to give another person. Your word. Even when you consider love, telling someone that you love them – you need to be completely honest when sharing that emotion with them. Without honesty, (and accountability) I believe the others can never come from you.

Love – Love, to me, opens the door for so many other things. It allows you to share a full range of emotions with yourself and others. First, you have to start by being able to love yourself. I do believe it’s true, without being able to love yourself, you are never truly able to fully open yourself up to another person. You may have the door open, but it’s not completely open. Love enables compassion and without that, what are we?

Hope and Faith are in the same category for me. Without those, I can never truly believe that I will be completely healthy, again. I would have never believed that my son would have gotten through cancer, that my mom would be able to wake up and function everyday – since my father died. I have both, sometimes not as strong as I need to have them, but I just dig a little deeper and keep going.

Charity – Charity is a huge part of our lives, in my family. From an early age, my husband and I have taught our son -(my daughter, too…she was older when he met her, though!) that to give of yourself rewards you in so many ways. It teaches you humility, sometimes I think a lot of people truly lack humility. Stocking food shelves in a food bank, seeing people come for bags of food and knowing that it’s just a matter of circumstance that separates you from their situation, it keeps you understanding how lucky you are. It teaches you not to take things for granted. I firmly believe it, working – volunteering – should be part of every family’s lives.

spresto's avatar

Naturally the most important is love. You must have love and one of the other two in order achieve the third.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

Love – it’s the only thing worth living for
Honesty – it makes you an accountable and responsible human
Charity – this makes you a good human to others
Faith – not the religious kind, that I don’t care about, but the kind that you have to take leaps of when hoping for a better future
Hope – meh, as a concept, I always thought it was a weak one

drClaw's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir you took the words from my mouth.

What about lurve? Doesn’t our lurve for one another make this list?

ccbatx's avatar

Love—although each thing is very important, love seems to make you strive, makes you want to live each day better than the last.
Faith—you have something to believe in, which makes people who don’t have love something to look forward to.
Hope—There is always hope, and you should keep it intact, but I would choose one and wo before three

tinyfaery's avatar

Love
Charity (or human responsibility for the care taking of others)

I have no faith.
I really try not to hope for anything.
Accountability and honesty are just a product of my perceptions.

Clair's avatar

Without love, all the others are meaningless

Fyrius's avatar

I’m surprised that everyone gets so hung up on love. “Without it, all others are meaningless”? “Everything else is based on love”? “It’s the only thing worth living for”?

Aren’t you being a bit overly sentimental? I think it’s quite possible not to love anyone (romantically or otherwise) and still live a fulfilled life as a happy recluse.

Love may be the most powerful positive emotion our mind is capable of, but it’s not exactly the only one. A sense of wonder at the beauty of the universe could be enough to make life worth living, or curiosity, or ambition, or apple pie. Surely you could say you love these things (as a result of the positive feelings they inspire), but then the love is more of a by-product of the thing that makes life worthwhile to you, rather than what actually makes it so.

Nor do I believe it’s the only possible basis for other desirable things like honesty, accountability and hope.
Honesty can be summarised as simply telling the truth, which hardly requires any emotion at all, only the lack of interfering thoughts like a desire for personal gain. (Indeed, love is quite liable to make people lie, be it in order not to offend a loved one or just to impress a date.)
Accountability could be based on a sense of justice, or on taking pride in being strong enough to take responsibility for one’s mistakes.
And hope tends to come just from an optimistic outlook on life.

As for these things being “meaningless” without love, I’m going to have to ask what exactly that sentence means. Do they lose their significance unless combined with love? Why would they?

Not trying to criticise anyone. Just throwing another two cents of mine in here.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@Fyrius well I was answering the question for myself
that’s what the person asking wanted to know
what is the order for ME and why
to ME love is the only thing worth living for

it doesn’t have to be that way for you

Fyrius's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir
Fair enough.
It’s indeed a rather subjective thing to say. But if you intended it to be so, it’s fine.

ru2bz46's avatar

@Fyrius Like I said, you must first love yourself. I’ve seen many people who do not love themselves, and they find nothing else to be any good. “Apple pie is tasty, but the damn thing burned my mouth. Now I’m going to get fat, Shit, I still have to wash the pie plate. Blah, blah, blah.” They are miserable most of the time because they have no inner light from which to draw.

Someone may use honesty just for personal gain, then lie for the same result in a different circumstance. That’s not true honesty. With love, the rest of the emotions/virtues pretty much fall into place without having to think about them. You’re not always trying to figure out how to apply them to work the best angle. Everything just flows.

Crusader's avatar

The Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom…Perhaps such a fear of God, enables us to rise above our primitive, selfish, divisive, hypocrite, (exclusively)sensual-driven base nature, and behave with True unconditional Love to one another…Though conditions for Godly leadership and example are clear.

Also, love does not necessarily mean Like. ‘Hate the sin but Love he sinner.’ or justify association, ‘Be careful about whom you makes friends with,wicked, evil company corrupts good habits.’ ‘Love you enemy,’ and ‘turn the other cheek’ apply also, so so longsuffering…Yet to encourage accountability Jesus made provisions for ‘a small bag of coin, and three swords between you,’ for the 12 prior to His sacrifice. He knw that God would not tolerate perpetual persecution of His saints. Such correction is thus engaged in for Love also, for God’s wrath is legendary.

Garebo's avatar

“Fear of the Lord” thing is hard for me, it is too steeped in desire and dogma.
I believe it is hard, if not impossible for people to truly love in the spiritual sense; I am sure a lot of you disagree, but the ego is very powerful at deceiving one.
I, at times feel I really do love, but it’s always a reflection of weakness, or desire. I have only personally met a few enlightened folk so far in my lifetime to inspire me to endeavor to persevere, so to speak.
People like Mother Theresa, Dali Lama, Gandhi, Jesus, ad Infitum, loved others with nothing I can compare, or comprehend.
One thing I do know, its impossible to love others without loving yourself first.

MacBean's avatar

“One thing I do know, its impossible to love others without loving yourself first.”

I really wish people would stop saying this. It’s not true at all.

ru2bz46's avatar

@MacBean If you think you know of a case to prove your point, just wait. The illusion will eventually erode, and you will see that you are mistaken.

MacBean's avatar

@ru2bz46—Nope. I’ve always completely despised myself, but am consistently described by friends and family as one of the most loving people they’ve ever met. Twenty-five years and still going. I don’t think either part of my personality is going to change any time soon. Or ever.

Crusader's avatar

@MacBean
I believe you have confused perhaps the following; “those who love this life shall lose it, those who hate this life shall gain it,” with “love the Lord thy God with all thy heart and soul and thy neighbor as thyself.”

Truth is, I have volunteered among homeless/mentally challenged, who are often consumed with wrath, envy, lust, addictions, ect…and there are always those among the most downtrodden and toxic who are inspirational to the most successful and educated, and vice-versa. Yet to maintain friendships and positive relations with family is, in itself, a form of self-Love, Or, perhaps simply opportunism. Many seriously disturbed individuals throughout history, masquarading among co-workers and family as ‘normal’ and prone to psychodic, violent episodes-a release for their self-hate. Do not allow the pressure to build, communicate honestly, and open your heart to Jesus.

Crusader's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir
If your avatar is correct, (whic I doubt it is,) I pity your children (for agreeing with McBean.)

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@Crusader—I have two children and that it is my avatar
you don’t have to pity me
all I needed to read from your above post was ‘open your heart to Jesus’ and we were done
thanks for playing though—

MacBean's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir: I learned a while ago not to take anything @Crusader says very seriously. There’s at least a 90% chance that “Open your heart to Jesus” or something similar will be somewhere in there, usually along with something judgmental and distinctly unChrist-like.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@MacBean I see, thanks for the heads-up

Garebo's avatar

@MacBean; probably because you can’t, why else.

Crusader's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir,,@Macbean

Good to see the love here, even if it required a common adversary..Unless this is simply more political expediency inspired deception…

MacBean's avatar

@Crusader: Simone and I have plenty of common interests and ideas that put us on good terms. You didn’t have anything to do with it. The only thing you ever manage to do is bring out the worst in me.

Crusader's avatar

@MacBean

Your choice to re-act. You are responsible for what you bring out in yourself.

Anyone else care to comment on the thread topic?

JLeslie's avatar

Honesty first. Then being supportive and loving. Next being aware of others and your surroundings.

Qwertymuffin411's avatar

Faith and love are most important. Why?? The Lord loved me enough to die, so I know can put my faith in Him. I think that faith and love often go hand-in-hand. Honestly, I’d be a wreck without either of them.

Next hope, honesty, and accountability, and charity (though not necessarily in that order).

yankeetooter's avatar

Love is definitely the most important of all. Without love you cannot truly have any of the others…

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