Why shouldn't I like Apple?

These questions are questions of faith and belief, and are not answerable by reason. If we were reasonable, we would acknowledge that it is remarkable in the extreme that we have any kind of home computers at all, and that anything else is merely a matter of propinquity and taste.

Because you fail at contractions.

Well, when you get a Mac you can still run Windows on it..the reverse is not true.

I like Apple okay. I just hate all the pretentious Apple owners.

lol. never discuss religion, politics, or computer brands in polite society. People will argue to the death.

I think the reason is cuz apple products are generally more expensive, so people who buy them are more selective and thus more opinionated . . . ?

always been a windows fan. Apple is just too cute for me to be perfectly honest. it’s constantly “hey look how hip and jive and new age this laptop is! it’s even green! I mean yeah I understand that the actually computer is a pretty solid piece of technology, I’m just not into the bells and whistles of it all.

Apple completely dominates and owns its users, locking them down to a ecosystem thats very hard to escape. They control ever aspect of their “universe” and you have no say. Their actions and practices are worse then the old microsoft.

Just look at the current state of events with the app store, they’ve been kicking out applications without any explanation or reason. Most recently they booted Google’s Voice app and haven’t made any reason as to why.

People can say all they want about how “awesome” apple is, but the truth is that its a very closed environment and if you don’t like the way Apple wants you to do/use something you’re shit out of luck. They’ve only recently been forced to remove DRM from iTunes, and don’t think any better of them because they were forced by market pressures.

They throw away product lines like no other company, if you buy something now you better buy the newer version in a year too. Steve Jobs was quoted at some point saying about the iPod that in his expectation everyone should be upgrading and getting newer models every 6 months. This follows suit with how they produce product lines, look at the new Macbook Pro line, they all have internal batteries, what happens when they start dying? You need to send in your laptop and get it replaced for a hefty fee, instead of just being able to buy a new battery on your own.

Apple will tell you what and how you should use and if you don’t like it they wont give a shit. I think that Apple has some of the worst policies when it comes to treatment of their customers of the major tech companies around right now. Then again, you gotta give em credit cause everyone seems to love the damn company without knowing any better.

@InspecterJones Wow… um thanks

lol he’s been waiting for this question for a while it seems…

@Mrgelastic – The truth of the matter is that people will see what they want to. You can do what you want to with either product. I have both and have always been able to do what I want with either one despite @InspecterJones’ claims. In the end a person’s preference for computers is one made up of many things. What are they going to use it for? In what environment will they be using it for? What is their level of technological skill and interest? etc.

Apple markets the Mac as a complete system, OS and Machine. And that is what you get and it works as promised. You get it, set it up and you are ready to go. It has more than enough programs, commercial and otherwise, to do anything you want. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong. Also, it can be tweaked to any level that PC’s can.

When it comes to PC you have a ton more choices for hard ware so there are way better prices. Especially if you can build your own. And more operating systems you can put on them. In turn you will spend more time learning about and tweaking the set up as far as security, the internet, wireless and any externals. Weather that time is significant or not depends on your level of expertise. Or you could sign up with HP, DELL or the like which is essentially Apple with out the cost but also with nothing even remotely close to the quality.

In the end, as in everything, there are fan boy zealots who speak with broad brush sweeping generalities when the reality is it comes down to you. You have to talk to people who can be honest and above all else, objective in answering your questions.

there is no reason not to not like apple

@whereisfreespeech There are reasons to dislike everything, you just have to pick which ones you can let slide.

I was just trying to have a little fun with the conversation :) I agree inspector

Fun fact: Microsoft is not infrequently told to cut features out of certain builds of Windows by various regulatory agencies. Apple has been known to use the lack of Windows features, brought about by said agencies, as a reason why people should get a Mac. In the interest of full disclosure, I’m employed by Microsoft in the Windows division

@tallin32 Just out of curiosity, what kind of features?

If it could get you in trouble then don’t answer, I’m just curious is all.

@tallin32 – I have never heard that. Wild. I would be interested in an example to if you an, but understand if you can’t as well.

An example that I can go public with now—for a while (and, actually, this managed to get overturned), there was some pressure on us to ship a version of Windows without a web browser in the European Union. Now, whatever your opinion is of Internet Explorer—can you picture any of the other desktop operating systems shipping today without built-in web browser? Granted, they were going to ship it as a separate install, but I just can’t picture Apple voluntarily doing that with, say, Safari.

@tallin32 – The problem was that there was no way the average user could NOT install or remove the browser. You could and can easily remove Safari.

@Bri_L Doesn’t removing Safari components also break anything else that needs HTML, such as the help system? As far as I can tell, everything in OS X that used HTML used, if not Safari proper, at least the webkit components that it used.

@tallin32 – I believe the help system is exclusive, but yes it would disrupt anything looking for a browswer but another browser would fix that.

The problem everyone had with what microsoft did was it broke the Operating system. It didn’t just break parts of how it worked. it took their own rep in court forever to get it out of the system and get the system to work again. For a Mac, yoink safari gone, plop opera, chandler, firefox. there you go.