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Have you ever been in a bind between two people you owe your life to?

Asked by wundayatta (58741points) August 14th, 2009

I was in the middle of my first mixed state (bouncing between mania and depression on a day to day basis). During that time, I had a three-day sexual interlude with someone I met online. Later, I confessed this to my wife, and this started me getting medical and psychiatric help in addition to couples counseling. These things have helped bring me back to normality (or, at least, to being something like I was before I got sick), and helped save my marriage.

However, the person I cheated with became a friend. In fact, I felt like when I was at the bottom-most point, she saved my life. She, too, was at a similar point (extremely depressed), and we helped each other to live by making each other laugh by talking about how we would commit suicide. A phoenix metaphor would be good here. Out of death, life arises.

My wife knew about my contact with the other woman, and she tolerated it because she saw the woman as kind of like medicine for me. However, my wife, too, was medicine that helped me overcome my illness. My wife also saved my life. She was there to make me go to the shrink, and to make sure I took my meds, and so much more.

Now that I’m better, my wife has asked me to stop communicating with the woman who became my friend. I understand why she wants this, and I have agreed. My wife is more important to me than anyone else.

I feel like a shit. For both my infidelity, and now for cutting off a friendship with someone who feels like my only friend. It is true that I don’t need her any more, and I don’t think she needs me, either. Friendship, however, it seems to me, is about more than needing someone or supporting someone. It is not something to be disposed of lightly.

I’m doing what I have to do, but it feels like no matter what I do, I’m wrong. Of course that is painful. It’s a weird kind of pain, though. Something that seems like the right thing to do, but makes me feel worse. Maybe like one of those horrible choice questions we saw recently—would you kill someone if that was the only way to save three other people? Would I “kill” my friend to “save” my wife and two children? Yes.

I’m not asking for sympathy. I’m not asking for advice. I’m not asking to be judged. I’m just sharing my story, if anyone is interested. And if you, too, have been in a situation where, no matter what you did, you hurt someone (it doesn’t have to be a matter of life or death), I hope you’ll share it, and maybe talk about why you made the choice you made.

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marinelife's avatar

May you find some peace around your choices.

kevbo's avatar

A) You’re not disposing of it lightly.

B) People often come together for specific (and presumeably mutually beneficial/symbiotic) reasons. There’s nothing wrong with letting go once those reasons are no longer imminent, and one can do so with gratitude and respect.

So much for not giving advice.

If I gave in to feeling like I owe people who have helped me, I’d be indebted for a few lifetimes. Fortunately, what most want in repayment is for me simply to be a happy person, which is challenge aplenty.

whatthefluther's avatar

I was presented a them or me ultimatum once by a friend. My second wife had just committed suicide and I did not have a good frame of mind. With my health situation, I required assistance so I put my trust and my very life in the hands of the friend who came to “help” me. Little did I know, and I would have never imagined, that this friend wanted my other friends and family at a distance so she could betray my trust, take my home and personal belongings, including my two dogs, have me thrown in jail on false charges, have a restraining order issued keeping me from my own home, and even denied me my wheelchair and scooter. Seems she was counting on me committing suicide as well, and I just wouldn’t die fast enough for her. It’s a long story, but I recovered my home and most of my personal property. I won a judgement for the $30,000 worth of property she took or sold off. I, however, was out $5,000 for bail, about $12,000 in attorney fees, and worst of all, I never saw my dogs again (they both passed away within a year of them being dognapped). I’ve not heard from that “friend” since and never received an explanation for her behavior. Altho I had distanced myself briefly from them, my family and other friends were there when I needed them most and they saved my life. See ya….Gary aka wtf

Jack79's avatar

Hmm…ok, no sympathy, no advice.

My judgement? Regardless of how you were, you shouldn’t have put yourself in that situation in the first place. But then again, perhaps there are things we don’t know about this story, and perhaps, as you say, it was a matter of life or death. So who am I to judge?

I have in fact been in a similar situation years ago. The difference was that the girl in question was an ex-girlfriend who had already become a good friend, and she came to save me for old times’ sake. And there was no wife (or even gf) involved at the time. Yes, I did use her, and yes, I did “dump” her. Though not in the way you imply. It was clear on both sides that she’d come to help me out and then leave again. I don’t think she particularly wanted to get back together, since she had made a conscious choice to move towards a different direction in her life. I didn’t want her back either. The following summer (when I was better) she tried to get back with me and I refused. I told her that I owed her my life, and I would repay the favour whenever she asked me. I would do her one huge favour in return, at any point in our lives, and if this was it, then I’d be willing to do it. She said no, this was not it, and decided to rather keep the “credit” of a favour owed than embark on a dead-end relationship between two friends who wanted different things in life (we had broken up amicably, mainly due to age difference).

So I am not sure it’s exactly the same thing. I’ve remained friends with that girl, though she disappeared from my life recently and I can’t find her. I’m pretty easy to find (I have the same phone and email) if she decides to track me down though. I think she’s avoiding me because she doesn’t want to get involved in my current drama.

You’re lucky your wife is still there for you. I envy you.

casheroo's avatar

@daloon I feel I was in a somewhat similar situation as you. I feel the worst is the guilt afterwards. I was so afraid of the repercussions of my actions that I pushed away the one person who would ever forgive me because he loved me enough. It’s hard to comprehend how someone can forgive, because I don’t find it comes easily to me.

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

I was presented with a them or me situation by a friend two years ago. I chose them instead of him. Later, everything went to shit, and now both friends are no longer friends. At this point, I have my wife and family, and a few close other friends. The rest, that is, the people that do not matter to me, and want to disenfranchise me, well fuck em. Life is too short to have to deal with the drama of idiots.

I know this isn’t much help to you, and I wish I had an answer, but as long as you keep doing the right thing, and you do it in all honesty, things will eventually work out. I’m not saying everything will be hunky-dory, but then, what in life is?

Good luck daloon, and I hope you find a solution to your predicament.

tinyfaery's avatar

You choose who means the most to you, easy. However, I think someone who really loved you would understand your want and need to have this other person in your life. Just my opinion.

Judi's avatar

It was a sappy emIl forward, but it makes some since here. It was about 3 kinds of friendships, none being better or worse than the other. Some friends come into your life for a reason, some for a season, and some for a lifetime.
I’m on my iPhone so I can’t google and find it but I have recieved it do many times that I’m sure if you google “reason, season, lifetime” it will be the first thing that pops up.
This was a “seasonal” friend and that season of your life is over. You don’t need to feel guilty about doing the right thing.

Supacase's avatar

Here is the entire poem, Judi. I think it is very relevant.

Reason, Season and Lifetime

People come into your life for a reason, a season, or a lifetime.
When you figure out which it is, you know exactly what to do.

When someone is in your life for a REASON,
it is usually to meet a need
you have expressed outwardly or inwardly.
They have come to assist you through a difficulty,
to provide you with guidance and support,
to aid you physically, emotionally, or spiritually.
They may seem like a godsend, and they are.
They are there for the reason you need them to be.

Then, without any wrong doing on your part
or at an inconvenient time,
this person will say or do something
to bring the relationship to an end.
Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away.
Sometimes they act up or out and force you to take a stand.

What we must realize is that our need has been met,
our desire fulfilled; their work is done.
The prayer you sent up has been answered
and it is now time to move on.

When people come into your life for a SEASON,
it is because your turn has come to share, grow, or learn.
They may bring you an experience of peace or make you laugh.
They may teach you something you have never done.
They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy.
Believe it! It is real! But, only for a season.

LIFETIME relationships teach you lifetime lessons;
those things you must build upon
in order to have a solid emotional foundation.
Your job is to accept the lesson,
love the person/people (anyway);
and put what you have learned to use in all
other relationships and areas of your life.

It is said that love is blind but friendship is clairvoyant.

~Author Unknown

patg7590's avatar

this should be a movie.

nebule's avatar

@daloon big hugs,...that’s all

hungryhungryhortence's avatar

What you’re doing isn’t wrong, it’s just a painful (for you) choice. Stopping the interaction doesn’t mean you care less or love less but it does mean you’ve prioritized and made choices for the betterment of more than just yourself; that is strength and growth. That you are in love with your wife is worth saving and going through some concessions for, you’re fortunate because so many couples don’t have the love any longer they have a love of the past of their children, family, friends and lifestyle.

YARNLADY's avatar

I can’t imagine what you are going through. This sounds to me like the time to ask a professional counselor for help. You need a knowledgeable, uninvolved third party to help you explore your choices.

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