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Is it ever polite to ask someone how much money he/she makes even if that someone is a close friend?

Asked by give_seek (1459points) August 19th, 2009

I have a close friend that asks how much I make every time I get a new job.

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dynamicduo's avatar

I would say in general, no. However in my generation (20–30 year olds), it seems to be less of a taboo to discuss than with older generations. Personally I am totally comfortable talking about my income, but I don’t go around volunteering this information.

Quagmire's avatar

Why do you want to know?

casheroo's avatar

I had to train my husband to stop telling people about his income. Maybe it was from being in the service industry, but he’d tell people exactly what he made that day…and to me that’s just tacky. It’s no ones business.

I have close friends and if I’m curious, it’s usually to see if they’re doing okay so I ask something along the lines of “Is business going well?” or something like that, which generally means “are you making ends meet” I don’t ask specific amount of income though. I personally feel it’s none of my business, unless that person is my husband…then I want to know.

give_seek's avatar

I’ve changed jobs quite a bit in the past 8 years. I also do a lot of freelance work. Everytime I get a new gig, my best friend-who has a self-debilitating need to compare herself to others-always asks how much I’m making. I’ve always thought it was rude.

I’ve just recently gotten a new job and when she asks this time, I think I’m going to tell her it’s none of her business. But before I do that, I was wondering if I’m overreacting to her queries.

dpworkin's avatar

Most people in this culture consider it quite rude, but good friends often, with mutual informed consent, break the rules.

Jeruba's avatar

No. It’s your information to volunteer if you choose, but no one’s right to ask for unless you are filing a joint tax return with them.

“Thanks for your interest in my career, Maisie, but most people regard income as very personal information. I prefer to keep it private.”

girlofscience's avatar

In academia, it is quite common to discuss income, I’ve found… at least with other academics. Grad student salaries are widely discussed, as they vary from school to school and department to department, but they’re not much of an indication of an individual’s own worth. They are discussed in the sense of “What is X University offering these days?”

Even beyond grad-student salaries, post-doc salaries are frequently openly volunteered. Friends of mine who are currently applying for post-doc positions discuss what various schools, labs, grants, and institutions have offered them. Everything is within a certain range, and again, rarely based on an individual’s worth (but rather the funding situation set forth by an institution), so it is not really an uncomfortable topic of discussion.

Furthermore, I have even been around faculty who have freely volunteered their salary information. When discussing a new faculty position someone took, it would not be uncommon to hear him or her say something like, “Yeah, I was initially wary of the location, but with an offer of $XK/year and $X in start-up funds, it was hard to turn down!” Even the salaries of professors who are not present are sometimes discussed. “Man, can you believe XX?! She just got an offer from X University for $XK/year! What a lucky gal! She really deserves it, though.”

I think we all generally recognize that we are all in the same boat and getting paid less than we deserve for what we do (and less than we’d make if we sacrificed our love of basic research to go into industry), so since we’re all on the same page, it is not an uncomfortable thing to discuss.

In other worlds, however, I believe things are very different.

SuperMouse's avatar

Even with my closest friends income is only discussed in the vaguest of terms. It just feels wrong to discuss it.

marinelife's avatar

I consider it very rude. If asked, I would say, “I am getting market rate for my position.”

jbfletcherfan's avatar

I think it’s terribly rude. It’s none of their business. Spouses are the only ones who should be told. If someone asked me that, I’d ask “why do you want to know?” And I’d NEVER ask someone else, either.

DominicX's avatar

In general, no, it’s hard to talk about it at all because asking about it is often considered rude and so is volunteering the information. It’s almost like people want never to talk about it ever. But I disagree with that. I think it’s fine if the two people agree on discussing it. But if you don’t want her asking you about it, you should tell her that it’s personal and you don’t want her to keep asking. You don’t know how many people ask me how much my dad makes. First of all, I don’t even know. Second of all, even if I did, I wouldn’t tell you. :P

ubersiren's avatar

I have 2 extremely close friends with whom I share everything. I mean, when we have an odd poop, we call each other and talk about it. We talk salaries, financial troubles, and very- very detailed stuff. But, I didn’t even know how much my husband made until I married him. I was very uncomfortable asking.

tiffyandthewall's avatar

i guess it depends on how good of friends you are. if you’re friends that share almost everything about yourselves with one another, i don’t think it would be at the top of the list of things not to talk about. but it depends on the relationship and the people i suppose.

DrasticDreamer's avatar

I think it’s fine if you’re close friends. I tell my best friend everything, just as @ubersiren tells her friends. I find it extremely irritating that the whole “How much do you make?” is such a big deal. I have no problem answering the question if asked, even if I know the person is going to judge me based on my answer. What does it matter? It’s not like I care what someone like that thinks of me, anyway.

Honestly, if people weren’t so shallow no one would find the question rude. If someone is asking out of sheer curiosity rather than judging someone’s worth in dollars, I don’t see what the big deal is. But, this is America. And for the most part, people are shallow assholes…

filmfann's avatar

I am uncomfortable when people tell me how much they make, and hate being asked.
I make a very good wage, and I am not ashamed at all. It’s just no one elses business.

tinyfaery's avatar

I have no problem talking about salaries and such, but I don’t ask. I just don’t care that much.

I just got a raise. Want to know how much? ;)

Jess's avatar

If they’re you’re friend then it’s all good, they’re just curious…..... At the same time, I don’t know how much money my brother makes and for some reason haven’t felt the need to ask him…..

CMaz's avatar

Sometimes.

give_seek's avatar

Thanks for your responses. You’ve caused me to think about why it bothers me when she asks. It dawned on me it’s because she’s not a confidant. If she knows, everybody knows. Even though we’ve been friends for a looooong time, I don’t share really private things with her. I often have to stop her from telling me private things about others.

That being said, I’m going to keep my salary to myself.

intellectual6969's avatar

No no no, that is some gay shit. People who don’t fucking give out how much they make per hour when someone innocently asks are presumptuous and fuckers. Do you honestly think people are trying to judge you based on how much you make? And if they are, who fucking cares, be proud of the money you earn you sluts.

Someone else might say if you make a lot its a bitchy thing to show off. Tacky my cock, if someone is inquiring on how much money you make, then they fucking asked, its show time bitches.

Nobody gives a fuck how much you make, just fucking pay taxes and get the fuck out of here.

dpworkin's avatar

Welcome to Fluther. Nice first post.

intellectual6969's avatar

I apologize for my language, its a part of my lexicon. I don’t mean to offend, and i still make a valid point.

tinyfaery's avatar

Gay? So much for user name.

intellectual6969's avatar

“lul, im gonna attack his use ov da werd ‘gay’ ‘nd make him seem like uh bigot, somehow invalidating his argooment”

Yeah, nice one. Fucker.

intellectual6969's avatar

@tinyfaery I’m glad you caught the irony in my name. Seeing as it was my first post and all and I came up with it 20 seconds after I wrote the comment. You’re good faery, oh, you’re good.

DrasticDreamer's avatar

@intellectual6969 And you’re obviously a disgruntled Fluther user. Or just a flat out moron.

Fucker.

dpworkin's avatar

I would bet moron, but I don’t think I am allowed to say that.

janbb's avatar

What someone can’t be a moron and a disgruntled Fluther user? I’m sure many of us are multi-talented.

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