Women: What are 5 things that you, or other women do around men that you hate?

1. Present themselves as “easy” and expect to be liked for their personality.
2. Paint their face with heavy makeup, forgetting that it washes off and their shallow, boring personality is permanent.
3. Treat other women like shit, I guess thinking it makes them more attractive to men.
4. Order a side salad and diet drink, when they really want a cheeseburger and fries. (I have an overweight friend who does this. As if the guy really thinks you have the appetite of a bird?)
5. Go along with whatever the guy says because they fear that having an opinion is unattractive.

1. Acting like every man in the place (wherever that place may be) is there for their own use. Be it buying them drinks, dancing with them, flirting with them, etc. I actually got the evil eye from someone because I dared to talk to a guy who she had talked to hours before. (I think that sentence needs a “whom” in it, but I’m not sure how to reconstruct it!)

2. Talk about menstrual cycles. I understand that these men are grown-ups and having a period is nothing to be ashamed of. But really, do we need to have the long involved conversation with them around? (Hmm. As I re-read that, this could just be my own hang up. Guys – have I misinterpreted this one?)

3. Being annoyed when one or two of the women want to actually watch “the game” instead of gathering in the kitchen to talk. Football game? I’m in the kitchen but my MIL is watching every play. Hockey game? MIL is in the kitchen and I’m yelling for blood. (or at least teeth.)

4. Eating teeny-tiny amounts of food. Or, complaining that everything on the menu is so fattening. Especially annoying from someone who is very thin. If you don’t want to eat restaurant food, don’t go to a restaurant.

5. Put themselves down and then wonder why no man is interested in them. Confidence (without cattiness) is a good thing!

1. Throwing themselves at men
2. Being over-eager

That’s all I got

@tedibear39 Regarding the period thing: nah. Ain’t no biggie, at least for me.

Just expect a lot of teasing on my part (eww, you hemorrhage from your shmoopiepapoopie).

hold in farts…its bad for you

@tedibear39, it’s something I definitely prefer them not to do. Just as I don’t talk about my poops, farts, ejaculations, or nose pickings

1. In relation to what @tedibear39 said, I hate it when women play up the emotional aspect of having one’s period. Most of us are not huge bitches during our cycle, but some women just use it as an excuse to act like it.

2. Wearing heels to work. Unless you’re a stripper, a model or some other profession that is based solely on looks, heels are unnecessary and just plain stupid to wear.

3. Ignoring other women when men are around. I’m a gamer and that kinda shit happens all the time.

4. Laughing at every joke. Sorry guys, sometimes you are just not funny and just because a lady is laughing doesn’t mean she thinks you’re funny either.

5. Not speaking up when something offensive is said! I am sick and tired of watching girls in obviously in discomfort about something said usually by a man but it also could be just in the presence of men who just sit there quietly or, worse, go along with it!

@KatawaGrey You’re talking about wearing heels to a job where there’s manual labor right?

@Facade: Damn near any job, really. I mean, why is it necessary for teachers to wear heels to work? They’re on their feet all day, heels just seem silly.

@KatawaGrey yeah but then I wouldn’t have had any gradeschool teacher crushes… where’s the fun in that? it’s for the kids. ;)

1. Acting ditzy and stupid just to get a man’s attention. It’s so completely unattractive. They make total fools of themselves. Men usually like women with some brains.
2. Throwing themselves at men. Who wants a slut? I wouldn’t.
3. Pretending to be something they’re not. Altering their personality to fit the man’s. Just be YOU.
4. Walking around with this “I can have any guy I want” attitude.
5. Flaunting their job or amount of money they make. Arrogance is a turn off.

What, why? I wear dress shoes to go with my business suit and they hurt like a mother fucker. No, probably not as much as heels, but still.

They look nice, why not? I could wear a loafer, but they don’t look as good.

will follow

@KatawaGrey because they look nice :)

1. How possessive women can be in a social situation. At a bar, a guy asked me and a friend to play a game of pool. It was not a flirty situation, just nice conversation and fun. However, there were a few friends they were with who were women (who were friends, not girlfriends) who got pissed and would tell us that we were sluts and this and that. What is up with women being so possessive when they go out with a group of FRIENDS??? It’s not “their” guys, so why be mean?
2. Women who dress up like they are going out at sporting events. It’s a hockey game! Why are you wearing high heels and a halter top???
3. Women who treat other women poorly. Why hate on someone you don’t know at all? Open your mouth and be kind, and you would be surprised that the woman who you think looks like “a skank” or something is actually very nice.
4. Women who keep going back to the same guy who treats them like crap, and then they complain about it. Be intelligent and have some self respect! Find one of the great catches out there and stop bitching about they guy who has cheated on you ten times!
5. Women who flirt obnoxiously to get attention. Flirting is fun in moderation, but do you really need attention from my boyfriend, my brother, his friends, my boyfriend’s dad, etc….

@Grisaille: Do your dress shoes deform your feet? Heels are very bad for someone’s feet. Tendons are shortened, toes are squished, walking becomes difficult. If you’re uncomfortable, wear loafers. Don’t wish your discomfort on someone else.

@Facade: With all due respect, that is an absolutely ridiculous reason to go through discomfort and pain all day every day. There are flat shoes that can be just as nice and do not destroy your feet. Also, if you absolutely have to wear heels for some reason I cannot fathom, there are lower, wider heels that are much more comfortable.

…did I upset you in some way? Jeez.

I am not “wishing” my discomfort on other people. What I did say is:

”[if] they look nice, why not?”

If anything, you’re being awfully judgmental of women who choose to wear heels. If they want to look attractive, and heels add to that, then what’s with the hate? Lighten up.

@KatawaGrey People say the same thing about wearing suits and some about wearing anything at all. I love wearing heels even though my feet are already fucked without them. It’s a personal choice really.

1. Playing down their ability in sports or act helpless, so someone can help them out. Along the same lines, people who act completely ignorant & helpless & clumsy in certain areas.

2. Constantly putting down their looks or weight (this is especially rude if around people who are actually overweight and trying to change that or are very conscious of it; it’s embarassing to have someone much thinner and healthier than you complain that they’re “fat”) to the point where they’ve practically convinced the guy they’re not worth it. Humble is good. But this is just shooting yourself in the foot.

3. Ignore or put down other women. As Miss Bingley finds out, this is not a good strategy to employ.

@kyanblue I just wanted to point out that sometimes putting oneself down is not always in one’s control. People who are depressed tend to do that kind of thing, male or female.

@daloon That’s quite true. I didn’t think about that when I was writing an answer.

@Grisaille: I did not mean any offense by my comment. Let me clarify. In the example I gave, teachers, female teachers tend to dress much nicer and are expected to do so. This means heels, skirts and button down shirts, or at the very least, nice shirts. Male teachers are expected to wear jeans and a nice shirt and clean shoes. I had several male teachers who often wore sneakers to school. I knew very few female teachers who wore sneakers to school. If the only reason women are wearing deforming shoes is for looks, there are alternatives that are more comfortable, less painful, and non-deforming that are considered very nice.

@Facade: I think it’s great that you don’t mind wearing heels despite the pain. I know a lot of women who do not like to wear heels in the everyday lives but feel as if they have to. A woman who likes to wear heels doesn’t bring an extra pair of sneakers, flats, sandals, etc. to work with her to change into when she leaves. I believe that if it wasn’t impressed upon women so much that they have to wear heels to look nice and that only heels are professional, fewer women would wear them. And, for the record, I’m not a big fan of suits either. I have heard they are hot, uncomfortable, itchy and just generally unpleasant and I do wish there was an alternative. However, they are not disfiguring or painful unless you are allergic to what the suit is made out of.

I really hate the look of heels. That combined with the fact that they’re unhealthy for womens’ feet makes me really wonder why they wear heels.

I never mind when a woman wears them, I’m kind of tall so sometimes it’s better if they’re a bit closer to eye level instead of being at my lower chest all night.

Who am I to judge? I do some of the things listed here (like wear heels to my non looks based job), but not because of any man. How do any of you know women behave in certain ways just because a man is around?

On the heels issue – I wear them because my work requires me to wear business attire. Most dress pants – even in a petite – are too long for me to be able to wear flats. And I don’t want to pay for tailoring. However, I sit a lot, so my feet don’t get too mangled.

@kyanblue – Your point #2: “Constantly putting down their looks or weight (this is especially rude if around people who are actually overweight and trying to change that or are very conscious of it; it’s embarassing to have someone much thinner and healthier than you complain that they’re “fat”)” rings so true with me. Several months ago my size 4 mother in law was complaining that she was heavier than she was at age 21. (She’s 60 now.) At age 21, she was about a size 0, maybe less. I’ve struggled to get from a 20/22 to the 10 I am now and it was all I could do to not scream, “SHUT UP! You have no idea what it’s like to be overweight!” Luckily, she’s a good person so I restrained myself out of respect.

@shortysith – I see that all the time at hockey games. ARGH!

1. Being agreeable because we’ve been taught that women shouldn’t speak their mind (I’ve noticed this much more since I moved to the Southern United States.)
2.I agree with @tedibear39 and @Likeradar : Ordering minute amounts of food is just obnoxious.
3. Creating the girl-wall. (occurs particularly on “Girl’s Nights” or Bachelorette parties). It seems that women in large groups exude this impenetrable aura that creeps men out. My brother told me this
4. Dumbing themselves down. On occasion, you made need a helping hand, but you should be able to do things yourself. I have changed a tire in a skirt and heels before work, and it’s not that hard.
5. Male bashing, and then saying “no offense”. On occasion, women tend to get into this negative place and say horrible things about men, partially because they’re there. Not that I’m against feminism, but I think putting people down because of their gender regardless of what it is is rude.

On the food thing: Some people can really only eat so much at a time. I, for one, can only eat a few ounces of food at one time without being extremely and painfully full… Just sayin

@Facade I don’t think anyone’s implying that we dislike women who have small appetites. I think it’s more about women pretending to have small appetites, with the thinking that it somehow makes them appear more feminine and dainty.

@Likeradar OK :)

The women I know don’t “do” anything in particular around men.

i don’t know if i have 5, but a few generalizations i’ve noticed that piss me off: just as when women laugh at every joke, it is also annoying when they act unimpressed with every comment or joke made. it’s okay to have a happy medium in which you just don’t pretend to be amused or not amused…
leading every guy on! oh my god. one of my good friends does this. it’s not wrong to flirt when you are single, but she does it with every guy, including her ex, and it’s just awkward, especially when you’re with your friends and you can just feel the tension. ugh.
being overly catty/girly/skanky. just, no. if you’re not normally a bitch, don’t do it just to show off your ‘wit’. i hate when girls suddenly seem to have gotten an estrogen injection as soon as a guy walks in. they’ll start making cutesy ‘female’ jokes with their female friends that usually aren’t funny, and still aren’t funny in the company of guys.

basically i just hate when people put up annoying fronts, is what i’m trying to say i guess. (;

@tiffyandthewall lol don’t make a boat when a floaty will do, my father always said.

I’ve got nothing I can think of I’ve seen that I hate! It could be because I adore my women friends. More, I think I’m one of the women some other women hate :( I wear heels, I’m a tongue tied giggler when talking to a guy I like, I eat little food when I’m excited and/nervous and hate the idea of waste (and getting fat).

I hate that women have and know that they have that, “Pussy Power”.

But, it does make for a good hunt. ;-)

I hate when women generalize about men. I hate when they wear way too much makeup, and I really hate when they are afraid to eat more than a piece of lettuce and an olive.

1.) Being slutty
2.) When they act like they’re better than me
3.) Ignoring your other chick friends when a guy is in the room
4.) Being whiney
5.) When they’re bitchy

That’s just about it! I know I don’t bare these characteristics because I absolutley loathe those 5 things >:l

Based on other girls’ habits:
~Being hung up on a guy that is clearly bad for you. And when I say that I mean constantly cheating on you, verbally abusing you, or physically abusing etc. Know when to stand up for yourself and have some damn pride. There are other men out there that won’t treat you like crap.
~Treating sex like some dirty thing that has to be done for the sake of your man. Not understanding it, not appreciating it yourself.

Based on my habits:
~Getting upset about something irrational and not wanting to talk about it. It does frustrate me just as much as it frustrates you. Mostly because I know I’m wrong and am trying to come to terms with it. (Work in progress)
~Building up a certain image of a fantasy romantic and expecting the boyfriend to magically match it exactly. It puts him through a terrible ordeal. Especially when the guy is actually amazing all by his lonesome. (Problem solved in my case)