Any good ideas on staying out late?

Ask Dad first…..

You will be an adult soon, but you will have to abide by the rules as long as you’re living in their house at their expense.

Raves are still happening?
Anyway, when you’re 18, you’re an adult and can go do your own thing but at 17, your parents are still responsible for you so you have to hang in there just a little longer.

Go to Kinko’s or the school’s computer lab, and use Pagemaker or Word, or Publisher (or whatever) to make a realistic looking flyer that says “Christian 2-Day Summer Camp” or whatever event will seem convincing. Then use that flyer to make it seem like a chaperoned event with strict rules is occurring, and you wanna go.

Who are you wanting to sleepover with? At 17 in most places you are still underage, and so should not be drinking or raving or sleeping with the opposite sex. You still live with your parents, so right now it’s their house, their rules. Once you are 18 and have your own place you set your own hours.

Are you still in school? If so, kudos to your parents for making sure that you get enough sleep.

Sorry, but I am a mom of a 17 yo girl.

@Kraigmo lol it’s sounds like you’ve done this before.

My parents were a$$holes so I didn’t really care. I got grounded a lot, so when I was free I partied my a$$ off and then got grounded again, lol. It was a vicious cycle.

@Axemusica – Just wait until you have kids of your own some day.

If you use public transportation, you can just lie about that
Like for an example “Oh, the subway took a long time to come here”
Or you went to a christian concert…

@Darwin I’m excited to be a father. I plan to be 50 times better than my shitty parents were. In fact it’s a goal to not be as bad as they were.

@Axemusica – Uh huh. Wait until your teenaged daughter wants to date some hooligan who is older that she is and from the shallow end of the gene pool.

Lol, my parents allowed that with my step sister. I don’t have to let you know how bad the “parental” figures were in my life, but I’m guessing this response might give you an idea of what kind they were.

@Axemusica It doesn’t, but than again, I’m not a parent. How long did she stay with him? Because a lot of parents might want to let it fly so she won’t run into his arms harder, but just gets bored of him. I think every parent sets that goal for themselves. Anyway no judging from my side, parenting is hard.

As for the question, are you asking about other suggestions than sleepovers, or suggestion about how to lie to your parents?

@markyy actually that’s a funny story. She was 12 and he was 17 at the time. She was a goodie goodie and he was constantly screwed up on different drugs. They only lasted a few months and many years went by that they never heard from each other. Then when she was about 22 they met again, he cleaned up his life and now they’re actually married with 3 kids. Funny.
My parents were never there, well to be actual parents. They were only there when “i screwed up,” well more of less my father was never really there, my step mother didn’t treat me as one her own. so….

@Axemusica Yeah they don’t seem like the kind of parents that read a lot of books on the issue ;)

Christianity seems to be the red cape in the bullfight. Hey, your 17, what’s the rush. The worst thing you can do is fry your brain before the real party begins. Sex, drugs, and Rock n Roll can be a great path, thee path, but fall off it and its sex for money, drugs turn into pysch meds, and the Rock n Roll will still be there long after your gone.
Uh, party like a Mormon, act real good until no one’s looking. Or a Jehovah’s Witness, do what ever you want but learn how to argue like a child really good.
Or, you know what, listen to your parents they love you, dont lose that to realize it. Don’t make up reasons for things to ever be bad between you.

Respect your parents’ wishes until you are 18, at which point you should reevaluate.
Like it or not, parents have rules to keep you safe.

My mom’s boyfriend gets pissy when I come home late. And I work a midnight shift, so Monday through Friday I don’t get home until usually 4 ish. But last night, for example, I went to a party and came home around 3:30, and he still bitched at me this morning. First, he isn’t even my father, second…i’m 20. Not 12. I’m moving out in 3 months and I can’t wait. So I know how you feel and I know it’s frustrating and annoying but you should try to talk to your dad and maybe he can help you get your mom to be a little more lenient. And if not, you’re almost 18, like everyone else said, and then comes more freedom :)

@deni – Always remember – Their house, their rules. Once you are an adult (as you are) moving out is the only option.

Trust me, the bitching means he was probably worried what might have happened to you (or your mother does and then takes it out on him), and biological relationship doesn’t matter.

@Darwin I agree with you that generally, when you get bitched at, deep down inside they were probably just worried. But this situation really is unique. This man hates all of my male friends. And I can almosttttt see where that’s coming from, okay, maybe he thinks they all just want sex, but that’s a pretty crazy assumption to make, especially when I’ve been friends with them for years. He hates every boyfriend I ever had, especially the one I dated for 2 years, and for absolutely no reason. He yells at my mother for letting me stay out and not getting mad, which causes larger arguments. He complains about my brother when he comes to visit from out of state and goes through the fridge to see what there is to eat. It’s just a little ridiculous.

But I do think biological relationships matter. He should concentrate on patching up his relationship with his real sons than worrying about me.

My brother and I always talk about how we need to blow some coke on the kitchen table one day when he’s around, and then he might understand what it’s like to really have a problem to complain about! :p

Is college a likelihood for you? Wait until then. In the meantime, get good grades, work hard, convince your parents that sending away to school is a good idea. Get there for the first semester, party your brains out, flunk out, come home and work at White Castle for the next 8 years, date a guy that works at a carwash, with “love/hate” tattooed on his knuckles.

I always just snuck out the window after they went to bed.

What do you think would happen if you said this? “Dad, I don’t want to sneak behind your back, and I hate the idea of lying to you, but I really need a little more freedom. I’d like to be able to tell you where I’m going and who I’m going to be with. But then I can’t have you just saying no to everything. It’s got to be two way. You loosen up a little with me, and I’ll be honest with you.—-And can you help me with Mom?”

She might be as cautious as she is precisely because she knows what it’s like.

If you couldn’t say this, then I don’t have any suggestions for you, I’m afraid. But that did work for us when my kids were your age.

@Jeruba That is a great situation, hopefully they both appreciate the honesty.