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NSFW: what do guys actually do in lap dances and other strip club entertainments?

Asked by wundayatta (58741points) October 8th, 2009

I was reading the question about stripping, and lap dances were mentioned, and the issue of touching or not touching appeared (I was going to say “came up” or “was raised,” but, well, you know…). So I was wondering what guys really do. I’m a bit embarrassed to say that I don’t know, but whatever…

I mean, I assume that it’s about masturbation, but are guys masturbating in front of other guys? Is that a show in itself—that other guys can see? Or do they just get an erection and sit there frustrated? If the guys masturbate in public, how can they do that? It seems to me that having an audience would kind of kill “the mood,” so to speak.

If it’s not illegal, how much touching of the strippers actually happens? Do guys pants come off in any way? How do they get satisfaction, if, indeed, they do? I mean, how much do the strippers “help?”

I’ve also heard there are back rooms to strip clubs where more intimate “dances” can be seen or perhaps participated in. Again, how far do things go? Do the girls invite, or do the guys ask?

How do the girls feel when they do these things? Do they ever get involved, personally, with the guys? What really happens that no one ever really describes? (At least, not to me).

I know there are books about this, but I don’t want to read a whole book. I just have a few simple questions.

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eponymoushipster's avatar

jizz their pants, because there’s (officially) no touching the girls.

ABoyNamedBoobs03's avatar

lap dances are about the tease factor. If I walked into a strip club and saw a bunch of guys jacking off I’d be freaked out.

MissAnthrope's avatar

You pose a great question. I’ve never been and really have no desire to, but I’ve always thought it must be weird and awkward to sit in a room with a bunch of guys, where everyone has a boner. It’s like.. guys watching porn together, why isn’t that weird, either?

ABoyNamedBoobs03's avatar

@MissAnthrope I always thought it was awkward, but it’s startlingly casual in those places lol…

Sabotage82's avatar

They pull to private rooms. You sit in a chair with your hands under your butt and you let the girl rub all over you and show you her boobs. Thats about it leagally in most states. I am not sure what happens when more money is involved. I can speculate that you are allowed to touch at that point, either that or the girl will remove more articles of clothing.

NaturalMineralWater's avatar

It all depends on the strip bar. Some are just thinly veiled whore houses. Some are “reputable” establishments demeaning women. lol

Personally (and I don’t mind being called a prude), strip joints house some of the weakest and morally inept people in all of humanity. XD

RandomMrdan's avatar

I’ve heard that if you pay enough to get into the champagne room, you might get a blow job. I’ve heard of people having sex in the champagne room as well. But I’ve never wanted to pay for anything more than some dollars at the main floor, and maybe a private dance or two.

One time this really cute girl/stripper at a club I went to was all about me, and we ended up having a few private dances. There is a bouncer that will peer in from time to time to make sure everything is on the up and up. The “do not touch” rule never seemed to apply to me when I was in a private dance, in fact, these private dances I was getting, we made out a bit too (in my defense, I was horny, and drunk, and well, she was cute too).

@MissAnthrope I don’t think guys care so much to be in the same room as other men who may or may not have boners, in fact that never crossed my mind until now, haha. I think a lot of guys just sit near the stage and have drinks and enjoy the show. I never become aroused until I have a girl rubbing all over my lap, the show itself is just entertaining.

Grisaille's avatar

@NaturalMineralWater That’s a whole lotta assumptions you’ve made to reach that point. I know of quite a few strippers who take their work very seriously, and enjoy what they do very much. Don’t spit on their profession, at least give them the benefit of the doubt and respect the fact that they maybe – just maybe – respect themselves.

RandomMrdan's avatar

I will second @Grisaille ‘s response. I like to think of strippers as entertainers who are trying to pay a way through school, or get their kids through school.

NaturalMineralWater's avatar

@Grisaille Ok, good job strippers for doing your part to better society. (massive eye roll)

CMaz's avatar

I could never get myself to piss away that much money. For basically nothing.

Grisaille's avatar

@NaturalMineralWater Shooting ad hominems, eh?

I’d expect nothing less.

hookecho's avatar

Like people have said it really depends on where you live and the club itself

I’ve only been to a strip club once in my life, (it’s overrated as hell, trust me) and while getting a lapdance I was allowed to touch the breasts but nothing below the waist. This is in Canada, laws could be different in other locations.

CMaz's avatar

There was never anything in a strip club that I could not otherwise bring home for ,at most , half the cost and time.

RandomMrdan's avatar

@ChazMaz I think prostitutes, or escorts are going to run you quite a bit more than a night in a strip club. Unless you’re referring to just a porn or something, then that’s just free.

CMaz's avatar

“I think prostitutes, or escorts are going to run you quite a bit more than a night in a strip club.”

Is that the only way you know how to get laid? :-)

Getting ladies has never been a problem for me.

Sarcasm's avatar

@RandomMrdan I’ve heard that if you pay enough to get into the champagne room, you might get a blow job. I’ve heard of people having sex in the champagne room as well.
No. There is no sex in the champagne room. This is actually creepy. I was thinking about this song as I was showering just half an hour ago.

@MissAnthrope It’s like.. guys watching porn together, why isn’t that weird, either?
That is weird.

MissAnthrope's avatar

@Sarcasm—Haha.. I almost posted ”But Chris Rock said there’s no sex in the champagne room”.

And I’m glad it’s not just me, cause I think it’s weird and awkward to watch porn with someone whose pants you aren’t planning on getting into later.

Sabotage82's avatar

LMAO. In my experience, when me and a bunch of guys watched porn together we did nothing but make fun of it. You kind of have to otherwise it is awwwwkwwward!

Grisaille's avatar

Yeah, watching porn with another dude is… peculiar. I don’t knock it, but… it’s fucking strange.

RandomMrdan's avatar

@Sarcasm yeah, I thought about that as soon as I said it…haha.

syz's avatar

Pro or con, I can assure you that there are no “gentlemen” in a “gentleman’s club”.

Sabotage82's avatar

@syz Is this based on experience? What is your definition of a gentleman? Not that I am disagreeing, but even gentlemen have penis’.

christine215's avatar

I go to the strip club with my husband, it’s entertainment we both enjoy beautiful bodies, he’s paid for me to get a lap dance once, it’s basically what someone else here mentioned, you go into a room, sit on a chair with your hands to your sides and the girl rubs her naked self all over you (there were other chairs and couches in the room, but nobody else was in there, not sure if they did that on purpose because it was ‘girl on girl’ to so speak)

syz's avatar

From here Gentleman: A well-mannered and considerate man with high standards of proper behavior.

christine215's avatar

@syz, have you ever seen women at a “male revue”? and have you ever been in a “gentleman’s club”? I’ve done both, women paw at male dancers and pull at their “stuff” it’s an embarrassment… men are much more reserved respectful and ‘gentlemanly’ than women are around these types of entertainers

syz's avatar

If you read here, you’ll see that I’ve been to both. I’ve never said that I think that strip clubs should not exist or are somehow “wrong”, but you will never convince me that it is a form of entertainment to be aspired to. Highbrow and classy, it ain’t.

Sabotage82's avatar

@christine215 I agree. I personally try to be a gentleman when I can. I have been to two strip clubs in my life. Though the stripper was naked as can be I wanted to be nice to her and make sure she was comfortable too. I love women. Seeing them naked is a wonderful, special treat in my opinion. I have mixed feeling about strip clubs too, however.

christine215's avatar

So I should take your response about no gentlemen being in a gentleman’s club as “tongue in cheek”? (I believe it is possible to be a patron at a strip club and be gentlemanly, just because you walk in the door and give a naked woman a dollar doesn’t mean that you suddenly become a cad)

syz's avatar

@christine215 I disagree. I suppose my definition of gentlemen is more along the lines of what I posted above, and in my opinion, that does not include paying money to see nearly naked women. Does that mean that any man in a strip club is disreputable? No. But is any man in a strip club a true gentleman? No. But then, that’s why it’s called an “opinion”.

wundayatta's avatar

So lap dances usually take place in the “champagne” room? What is the champagne room? Is it more private? Do lap dances ever take place in more public areas? Do guys ever masturbate in public? I mean, what’s the point of getting a lap dance if you don’t get off?

Sabotage82's avatar

@daloon If you are caught masterbating, you get bounced. That is the rule with strip clubs that are supposedly law abiding.

wundayatta's avatar

@Sabotage82 “If you get _caught…” That makes it sound like guys still do it, but I guess they have to try to keep it hidden. Still, do they get boners? They must. Unless it’s like being pee shy at a urinal. Aren’t boners kind of hard to hide? Aren’t they still embarrassing even if they are at a strip club?

MissAnthrope's avatar

@daloon – I always figured the purpose was the titillation/tease aspect, which would then lend itself to masturbation fodder later.

I got a surprise lap dance once at a Con, but the difference was that we had little crushes on each other, so her choice to do it was sexy and hot, because I knew she liked me and was doing it because she wanted to. And let me tell you, not being able to touch her was the biggest tease ever. :)

RandomMrdan's avatar

@daloon no, lap dances are not normally done in the champagne room(unless you pay a lot of money for it). A lap dance depending on the club, can be done in an open area and you can see other people getting dances…..or I’ve been to one in which you are put in like a darkened cubicle of some sort, and a guy will peer in from time to time to make sure you’re not doing anything beyond her putting her body on you.

buster's avatar

If I was a spender on sex I would just get a $20 crackwash from a toothless whore on SE82nd Ave in Portland Oregon. You can get real sex or oral for more money or blow in a lot of strip clubs though.

wundayatta's avatar

@MissAnthrope Hardly fair, I think. It is not so obvious when women are aroused—or even if she is masturbating. Unless, of course, you’re a man—hard to tell from your name and avatar.

jonsblond's avatar

As @hookecho said, it depends where you live. Men are allowed to masturbate in the champagne rooms in Las Vegas. go figure! The men are not allowed to touch the dancer, a bouncer checks in now and then to make sure nothing illegal is happening and the dancer gives the gentleman a hand towel to clean up with.

buster's avatar

wow about Vegas didnt know that. Here is your spankerchief enjoy! Or as some people call them, dreamcatchers.

jonsblond's avatar

@buster lmao…spankerchief

Sabotage82's avatar

Dreamcatcher… I love it. lol.

drdoombot's avatar

Strip clubs are a big waste of time and money, if you ask me. I’ve only been to a strip club once, when I was visiting Russia. The laws are different there, so I was allowed to put my hands all over the strippers, though it depends on the girl. The first girl who gave me a lap dance kept shimmying away from me when I touched her, the second let me touch her almost everywhere, and the third kept a strict distance of three feet from me (wasn’t even a lap dance, now that I think about it). Many of the girls there offered me a “sexual massage” for a certain price, which I refused to pay.

In the end, you walk away with blue balls. I’d rather not be aroused at all than get all hot and bothered and get no release.

Sabotage82's avatar

@drdoombot Well said, I agree.

dpworkin's avatar

:::yawn:::

wundayatta's avatar

@pdworkin Did you read through all of this just to say that????

Sabotage82's avatar

@daloon I agree. I give him an epic fail.

PupnTaco's avatar

If guys are like me, they get depressed and feel sorry for everyone involved, then leave after five minutes.

Sabotage82's avatar

It all depends on my mood at the time.

Jack_Haas's avatar

In my favorite nightclub (we used to go there 4 times a week) the Champagne section wasn’t isolated from the main room and there were no backrooms. Nothing weird could happen, security was tight and anyone who misbehaved was thrown out discreetly. The girls were totally naked but lap dances were without contact.

The most upscale club in the area was just a mile away. There was a backroom and even though I had heard about orgies going on there, I was shocked to read that the club was raided like 3 years ago and it was revealed that customers were paying for sex and cocaine with their credit cards.

In Tampa, there was a club called Mons Venus. It was like a meat market. Guys had to sit so close to each other on long benches that they might as well have f…ed each other. The girls were frantically rushing to get them off. One of my buddies told me regulars were often offered BJs.

THere was another club nearby with lots of single rooms. The girls were topless, however there were no couches, as in most clubs, but beds. The lap dances were more like body massages. There was a security guy roaming the place to make sure no sexual contact occured, but it didn’t prevent my four buddies to get blown by the same girl.

Good times…

CMaz's avatar

If she ain’t blowing.

I am going.

Sabotage82's avatar

@Jack_Haas Man that sounds pretty wild. I wish and want. sniff sniff.

CMaz's avatar

Sometime back they outlawed nude dancing in my county.
Me and some friends went in a strip club, only to find a girl dancing with a two piece bikini on.

No way I was going to give the girl a dollar for what I can see down the road at the beach.
So I told my friends to hurry up and finish their beers before she was done, so we could get out of there.

We finished and headed for the door. Just as we got to the car she comes running out the door. Cursing and swearing at us.
It was so funny! She was pissed!
I said, “take your top off I will give you a dollar.”
At that point a couple more colorful words came out of her and she went back in.

She was skanky any way and her socks were dirty. yea, she had socks on too.

MissAnthrope's avatar

@daloon – What’s not fair? And I’m female. :)

Jack_Haas's avatar

@Sabotage82 It was a long time ago, since then my favorite club shut down, the residents of the area where all the strip clubs are located succeeded in imposing strict “decency” rules and Tampa ain’t what it used to be from what I’ve been told.

hungryhungryhortence's avatar

Most men I know who go to strip club and indulge in lap dances don’t have any hesitation to show off their pants covered erections to each other in public, they’re actually quite proud and get a kick out of showing they can “get it up” on command like that. Most clubs don’t allow touching of the women unless in a private room/booth and then anything might be possible.

CMaz's avatar

“Most men I know who go to strip club and indulge in lap dances don’t have any hesitation to show off their pants covered erections to each other in public”

Now that is just creepy!

hungryhungryhortence's avatar

@ChazMaz: they sit around and slap each other on the back, laughing about getting turned on, congratulating themselves on being “men”. The odd one out will be the guy who’s got erection problems, he will get teased and talked about later.

wundayatta's avatar

@ChazMaz Totally creepy!

@MissAnthrope Unfair that when women are aroused, there is no obvious physical signal, whereas with men, well it’s completely obvious for anyone to see. Women can masturbate at almost any time they want, right in front of people, and if they want to hide it, they can. Jewelry placed in strategic places or those ben-wah balls or whatever they are—not obvious.

CMaz's avatar

“slap each other on the back, laughing about getting turned on, congratulating themselves on being “men”.”

Does it end with a reach around?

MissAnthrope's avatar

@daloon – Well, it’s not fair you get to walk around with no shirt on on hot days. And before you say, “well, you can!” (har har), what I mean by that is no boobs, no big deal, you know…

Lots of things aren’t fair! :P

Sabotage82's avatar

I really wish women would let it all hang out. Please stand up for your right to go topless. Take of your shirts. Have no shame.

wundayatta's avatar

@MissAnthrope I concede the point. However, I guess it was a poor choice of words. I think what I’m saying is that it’s not the difference that is unfair, but the comparison that is unfair. If you’re getting hot due to a lap dance, no one will know. If a guy gets aroused, everyone will know. If that guy were me, then I’d be trying not to get aroused, because I don’t want people to see that, and that pretty much seems to defeat the point of being there.

I think that’s probably why groups of guys keep on making jokes and whatnot. It keeps them from really connecting to their bodies the way they might if it was personal. It seems to me that there is some kind of breakdown in the unspoken rules if guys start getting erections all together.

I never participated in a circle jerk when I was of that age. Those things all seem rather homoerotic to me, and that just doesn’t interest me. So, in a way, it seems like a strip club is a den of repressed homo-eroticism. Guys are sort of secretly (even from themselves) in love with the other dicks around, but they can’t admit it to anyone, including themselves. A strip club allows them to be together, ostensible getting aroused by women, but who knows? Maybe it’s about all that male testosterone, when you get down to brass tacks.

MissAnthrope's avatar

@daloon – I see your point. I will say, as an aside, that my face is an absolute tell. I blush easily and obviously, and in this particular instance, I was told my face was very red afterward. :P

timtrueman's avatar

I remember this interview with the writer of Juno, Diablo Cody, really raising my thoughts on strippers. Being a topic I’m not familiar with I found it helpful (and funny).

wundayatta's avatar

@MissAnthrope You sound like my kind of girl!

wundayatta's avatar

@timtrueman Thanks for the link. Very funny girl.

casheroo's avatar

Ugh. This makes me think strip clubs are more degrading than I usually think.

I don’t know what men do there. I’ve gone with girlfriends (yes, to see female strippers) and I’ve gone with my husband (on our honeymoon, nonetheless) We did not want a lapdance, and just watched. I know my husband has been to strip clubs in the past, but not while we’ve been together. I can’t imagine he was ever turned on by the girls enough to want to get off. That’s just not his thing.
I hope people don’t umm, masturbate or whatever. I’m getting skeeved out. lol

eponymoushipster's avatar

@casheroo “I hope people don’t umm, masturbate or whatever.”

that’s what peep shows are for.

casheroo's avatar

@eponymoushipster But not regular lap dances, right?? that’s what I was referring to.

eponymoushipster's avatar

@casheroo no, the girls (as i understand) can rub and gyrate against the “patron” to their heart’s (?) content, but the patron can looky but no touchy. so typically, the guy blows his load from friction against hi…. yeah, it’s basically masturbation.

BBQsomeCows's avatar

I would never go to a strip club. If I want to see something to get hard I want to jackoff.. so I’ll just download some porn or something

phil196662's avatar

Dance classes for a girl friend and have her do the dance and then you can touch anyhing!

dutchbrossis's avatar

During lap dances guys are not supposed to touch the girls, although some girls in some places will allow a little bit of touching. Most places have table dances, and then private rooms where it is supposed to be more intimate. Most guys will tell you nothing goes on back there that doesn’t happen during a table dance, some girls will let a little more touching back there and get closer with the dance. There is no sex that goes on though, there is cameras in most rooms and someone is always watching that and the dancer knows that.

As far as masturbation, not in plain view of anyone. There are clubs with shower rooms, where it is like a peep show. The guy will sit in a chair, the girl on the other side of a glass that neither one can get through, and the girl will dance or take a shower or whatever, and yes in those the guys are allowed to masturbate. No one can see them though.

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