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airowDee's avatar

NSFW. If a man has intercourse with another man but claims to be straight, do you believe him?"?

Asked by airowDee (1791points) October 14th, 2009

These men identify as straight but they enjoy having sexual relationship with men for sexual release or fetish reasons. They have sexual fantasies about men, but they are not attracted to them as a person. Does this make sense to you?

There are also other types of straight men who like the pleasure of being anally penetrated but they identify as straight. What do you think?

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Zen's avatar

Ahem, we do.

kheredia's avatar

If a man gets turned on by another man.. he is not straight.

hookecho's avatar

I think if someone is having sex with someone of the same gender they’re at least bi whether they want to admit it or not.

trumi's avatar

Greek much?

DarkScribe's avatar

They would be Bi but primarily focused on conventional relationships in that case. That is the definition of bisexual – capable of sexual response to either gender.

Zen's avatar

@kheredia You are mistaken and labeling.

DominicX's avatar

Then what does “straight” mean? Mostly sexually attracted to the opposite sex?

I think this goes back to the whole notion of “most (NOT all) people are bisexual” at least some bit. People just choose the label that most closely matches their attraction; so if 95% of the time, you’re attracted to the opposite sex, it’s easier to just call yourself “straight”.

Zen's avatar

(thinks to himself this will become the outing thread on fluther.)

DarkScribe's avatar

@DominicX Then what does “straight” mean?

Straight means “just like me” to most people who consider themselves straight.

casheroo's avatar

Straight men can enjoy anal play, it doesn’t make them gay. But, being attracted and having sex with the same sex may be a sign that you are gay or bi.

airowDee's avatar

For those who want to have an operational definition of SMSM

From this source: http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/straight_men_who.html

“The SMSM phenomenon is not new, though it has only recently received much media attention. In earlier generations, these men may have been described as “trade”—heterosexual men who participated in same-sex sexual encounters of a restricted kind, often taking the active role in anal intercourse and the passive role in fellatio.

They may have been sex workers or men who engaged in sexual relations with other men only because female partners were not available (as in the case of prisoners or men who live in all-male environments). They may have engaged in sexual activity with other men as runaway teenagers living on the streets for survival or as young men out on a lark.

These men may have cruised for same-sex encounters in public parks or restrooms, but they were unlikely to become part of a gay community except on its fringes.

More recently, the growth of the Internet has facilitated the acting out of sexual fantasies of all kinds, including those of SMSM. The Internet has made it easier and safer for heterosexually-identified men to meet other men for quick, anonymous sex. Hence, there may be a growth in the number of men who experiment with same-sex desire without altering their sexual identities.”

O's avatar

There are plenty of people who get turned on by doing something that is forbidden or just plain wrong so to speak. Not that there is anything wrong with guys lubing the bat with each other. I would say it’s a heterosexual fetish for some, to hump the troll hole of some guy.

airowDee's avatar

That’s chillin music..lol..

Facade's avatar

I’ve heard of straight guys doing gay porn because the money’s better than in the straight porn industry…

sjmc1989's avatar

I just think that there is a double standard. If a girl says that she gets aroused by other women but she only wants to be with men she would just be normal and not considered anything but straight. If a man says this I bet a lot more people will say that he is at least bi. I don’t agree with it but I think it is just how society views how we should look at sexuality between the genders.

Sarcasm's avatar

Heterosexuality refers to sexual behavior and attraction to people of the opposite sex, or to a heterosexual orientation. As a sexual orientation, heterosexuality refers to “an enduring pattern of or disposition to experience sexual, affectional, physical or romantic attractions primarily to ”persons of the opposite sex”.

Homosexuality is the romantic or sexual attraction or behavior among members of the same sex, situationally or as an enduring disposition. As a sexual orientation, homosexuality is considered to lie within the heterosexual-homosexual continuum of human sexuality.

No. If you want to fuck men, or want to be fucked by men, or want to suckle on mens teats, and you are also a man, YOU. ARE. NOT. STRAIGHT.

RedPowerLady's avatar

@Sarcasm Who wrote that definition?

Sarcasm's avatar

@RedPowerLady Are you saying that you disagree with the idea that straight means “Attracted to those of the opposite sex”?

O's avatar

I think that sometimes we are a bit too concerned about classifying and labeling shit. How gay are you? Like this gay or like that? A friend of mine once said that he believes all people are more or less bisexual by nature, only to define themselves as one or the other pushed and shoved by society’s values. There might be something in that. Many who search for their sexuality in their teens, have homo experiences. I did. It wasn’t that bad.

I do go out for in-n-out burgers. But sex is an act that takes place mostly in the brain. I think that most straight guy could enjoy some serious ass pounding. It’s all about attitude. It wouldn’t make them gay. Call it a fetish.

evegrimm's avatar

Well, what about the Kinsey scale?

It seems to me that many people have bisexual tendencies, maybe resulting from curiosity, maybe from something else. I think labels are silly, though. (So are stereotypes, for that matter. But I’m getting sidetracked.)

I wonder if the OP considers males who enjoy being penetrated by females “gay”. And if so, why? If it’s pleasurable, what’s wrong with that? (What would a girl being penetrated in the “backdoor” be called, then?)

@O, you were faster than I was! We are thinking similarly right now. :D

DominicX's avatar

@evegrimm

I doubt she (the OP) thinks that. Being “gay” isn’t about anal penetration. It’s about sexual attraction to the same sex. And I do think that many people have bisexual tendencies, but I will never ever say all people have bisexual tendencies and it bugs me when people say that. I have never been attracted to females; I can say I don’t have bisexual tendencies.

airowDee's avatar

I don’t think that. The truth is I believe from a scientific point of view, men can derive pleasure from being anally penetrated, because of the existence of prostate and various other reasons. Its in your head blah.

loser's avatar

The only difference between a straight man and a gay man is a few beers.

O's avatar

@airowDee Sure, you are right. There are women getting raped that get orgasms, feeling betrayed by their bodies. Things do work independently of what we want sometimes. Some straight guys get orgasms when the doc fingers their prostate. It’s all mechanics there. But most women don’t get orgasms being raped. They need to be attracted and aroused. Same goes for men. We have to want it, chose it, for it to work properly.

holden's avatar

I think that because there are only two sexes we tend to see sexuality in terms of either/or, but that it really falls on a spectrum of preferences with people oscillating between the two extremes of exclusive straightness or gayness throughout their lives. I think sexuality is fluid and sexual preferences can in fact change.

Zen's avatar

@O Watcha doin’ later? Pm me ;-)

Alek2407's avatar

Adjective

straight (comparative straighter, superlative straightest)

1. Not crooked or bent; having a constant direction throughout its length.

Never really seen a man, homo or heterosexually who is not somehow bent. Now if we are referring to the slang term of straight:

7 (slang) Conventional.
8 (slang) Heterosexual.
9 (slang) Satisfied.

I’m guessing #8 we get:

Adjective

heterosexual (comparative more heterosexual, superlative most heterosexual)

1. Sexually attracted to members of the opposite sex

Now that definition does not disqualify people who are attracted to both sexes (as only is not used) so the answer to your question is: YES

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Wiktionary in plain text, my comments in italics

evegrimm's avatar

I don’t know if this came across in my original answer, and I don’t want any misunderstandings: I don’t care what people (men or women) are doing (sexually) that doesn’t directly affect me. I try my darndest not to judge someone based on perceived sexual stereotypes, and instead try to understand them as a person, actual and whole. Love as thou wilt, you know?

Also, I find this discussion interesting because it has to do with labels and stereotypes more than it does anything else. And indeed, it is labels, stereotypes and first impressions that damn us, more often than not.

Supacase's avatar

I think my ex-husband would fall into this category. He had one sexual encounter with a man. He performed oral and was on the receiving end of anal – he wanted to see what it was like.

RedPowerLady's avatar

@Sarcasm You didn’t answer my question.

To be polite and answer yours. I think that the way you are thinking is way too binary. There simply is no ‘yes’ or ‘no’ answer.

Zen's avatar

@Alek2407 You have a guy crush on me, eh? You know you want some man on man action – you’re in denial.

proXXi's avatar

I know this will be too cut, dry, and controversy free for @airowDee but here goes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale

breedmitch's avatar

I’ve slept with lots of straight men. Labels. Only labels.

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