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The Democrats seem not to have done so well today. What do you think the reason is?

Asked by dpworkin (27090points) November 3rd, 2009

Obama still seems to poll well, even where Republicans took seats, but are the Democrats being given a message by the voters, and if so, what do you think that message is? Personally I think they have been pusillanimous and are now paying for it.

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jrpowell's avatar

Or it was Virgina and a republican district that has only voted for the Republicans since 1890.

This was totally seen if you read any sites about polls. NJ was the only real toss-up.

Samurai's avatar

Anything that’s geared for a smaller government is better I think.

dpworkin's avatar

@johnpowell Do we know what happened in Upstate New York yet? Are you sure that’s what the exit polls indicate? Why is Corzine’s race too close to call?

jrpowell's avatar

I am still looking.. But I am not getting any good data. That was a weird fucking race.

avvooooooo's avatar

I think that some people are mad because things don’t happen magically. Those people are stupid and don’t understand that change takes time, especially when people are being obstructionists for the sake of being obstructionist.

In general, I think that its just the course of politics. People were so very much about sending a message to the Republicans last cycle that they were voting in abnormal ways. They’re probably just getting back to normal and this is changing the numbers.

Haleth's avatar

We’re not as riled up as we were for the presidential election. It’s hard for political parties to keep people’s attention. I live in VA, and I didn’t think the ad campaigns were very effective.

dpworkin's avatar

The AP is saying that Corzine lost, and there was a sweep in VA.

Toastlovingcat's avatar

Ewwwwww !!! Obama!!! XO

skfinkel's avatar

I think people seem to have very short memories, and are generally short sighted when it comes to their government. If it isn’t fixed right away, then off with their heads!

Sampson's avatar

After reading this question, I google searched the NY congress race and the Dems took it.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/archives/184028.asp?from=blog_last3

dpworkin's avatar

That’s quite interesting – the far right wing seems to have shot itself in the foot there. I am eager to see how they interpret this.

avvooooooo's avatar

Election tampering, what else?

avvooooooo's avatar

Little green men.

They want free health care too.

judochop's avatar

Chads. Lolercopter.

dpworkin's avatar

More seriously, will they continue their campaign to challenge insufficiently conservative candidates in the primary, or will they start to consider that a losing proposition. After all, this had been a solid Republican seat for what, 80 years?

dpworkin's avatar

Gay marriage seems to have been defeated in Maine. Yet another blow.

dalepetrie's avatar

First off, none of these results is surprising…well Maine is a little surprising, but I think that’s been a trend too, peopel going to the polls to take away gay rights that have been granted by the state…not really surprised. Neither of the 2 high profile races that were lost were really ones which the Dems had a realistic shot at if you ask me. Basically, if the turnout had been the same as in 2008, sure Dems could have won, but 2008 broke all voting records for turnout, and off year elections usually break records for lowest turnout. And whose base is energized? The Republicans are mad and want blood, of course in Republican strongholds they’re going to win an odd year election, not a big thing.

Indeed, I see this as a VERY positive thing as a liberal. Why? Because it imbues the Republicans with a false sense of confidence…they are reading it as a referrendum on Obama when in no logical way can this be read as such. I think this will make them overconfident and cocky, which is why they lost power in the first place. I think they’ll be expecting an environment far more hospitable to their lunacy than what they will actually see in 2010. And add to this that neither Republican who won was exactly the kind of Limbaugh/Beck/Coulter/Hannity/O’Reilly/Steele nutjob who has taken the party hostage…at least neither campaigned as such. This will embolden the crazies who have been convinced that a government which offers services to its people is somehow a socialist regime that people are still on their side, that Obama was a fluke…they’ll keep trying to obstruct any progress Obama can make, and Obama, being slow and methodical, may in the short term piss off a lot of his base, but once the progress is made on things like healthcare, gay rights, the economy, etc. (which I’m personally going to be thinking twice if we’re in the same boat on all of these things come Nov 2010, and I’m as liberal as they come), I suspect you’re going to see Dems bucking the trend and increasing their congressional majorities instead of losing ground. By 2012, I believe Obama vs. whomever the Republicans nominate (probably Romney), you’ll end up seeing something along the lines of Reagan/Mondale ‘84 when the electoral results come in (only the map will be blue instead of red). Mark my words….I predicted Obama would be elected President in 2008 in February of 2007…you gotta have a long view on these things.

dpworkin's avatar

@dalepetrie Thanks for the thoughtful response.

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