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Have you ever experienced any type of paranormal activity in your house?

Asked by Courtybean (514points) November 13th, 2009

A girlfriend of mine has just recently moved into a new rental property. We have recently learnt that the area she now lives is apparently renowned for haunting. The suburb was the first point of settlement upon during colonisation and is therefore the oldest suburb in our city.

She has been complaining that she feels frequently uneasy in her new home which has never happened before. She has reported hearing strange noises (foot-steps, door closing, creaking,) has had items move around the house or has had items disappear for days at a time, which then show up again in places she swears she had checked. She also said that she often has strange thoughts that randomly pop into her head, which have nothing to do with what she is doing at the present time.

Whilst she considers herself to be a sceptic when it comes to ghosts, spirits and paranormal activity, she is struggling to find an explanation as to what is happening. The poor thing keeps trying to tell herself that it’s all in her head but has now become quite frightened.

I just wondered if anyone had any similar experiences they could share to shed some light on the issue. What happened to you and what did you do?

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Lacroix's avatar

It could be that she visited a place that had a spirit, and it traveled home with her (that’s if she’d never experienced hauntings before).

I know that’s happened to me before…I went to my mother’s to pick up some of my things before she lost her place. I hadn’t been there in months…close to a year. I was told that during that time she’d been drinking and doing drugs heavily, as well as generally going psychotic in my room. She was long gone (off to jail), and so my boyfriend and I decided to spend the night (it was about 3am by the time I’d gotten my things packed).

We started to see a quarter-sized ball of light move about in the room…under and behind objects. I had black-out curtains, so I know it wasn’t a car light. The light disturbed me, so I insisted we leave for the night. The next evening, I came back with a roommate to collect what I’d been unable to carry the night before. The shadows moved, like small, emaciated things creeping in them, and we heard a constant rustling noise. We left quickly, and it seemed to us like a person was crouching on the roof.

My roommate and myself began to hear a music box playing in the house at random times during the day…we thought it was one of her child’s toys, but there was no such toy. The location of the sound also seemed to shift. Sometimes as many as six people would hear the sound at a time. Cabinets also began to slam, and the shadowy figures of people would walk through the house around you when you were alone.

I couldn’t take it, and I left. Nothing followed me out, this time. They stayed there with her.

Tink's avatar

Not at my house but at my granparents. I lived there for twelve years until we moved, but my granparents still live there. I would often hear footsteps on the hallway of someone walking back and fourth throught the hallway, where my room was at. It sounded like if whoever was walking through there was wearing boots. It would always start happening at around 11pm. All throught the night. And the toilets would often flush by themselves. And when you go to the restroom you have to pass through that hallway and on your way back you feel like if someone is watching you as you leave. It creepy. But it doesn’t feel like if your in danger or something, it’s just an uneasy feeling. 
One of my aunts used to live in the back house since it’s divided into two, they would often get a strong musty, and feet smell in that house. It smelled like a man. They would make my cousins take a shower because they thought it was them. Their radios, and TV’s would turn off by themselves. And they would hear those footsteps too. Now they live somewhere else and they still get that smell in their new house. I guess whatever is there followed them. But we still hear those footsteps and get the feeling we are being closley watched.

Courtybean's avatar

@Lacroix and @Tink1113…. I didn’t realise that spirits could follow you!! Yikes!! I thought they stayed in the one spot (for what ever reason that is)

@Lacroix – I would have been out of there so fast!!

@Tink1113 – I’ve also heard of smells being associated with spiritual encounters. I on occasions, get the wiff of a really strong men’s cologne even though I’ll be somewhere by myself with nothing around me that smells like cologne! They say that might be a loved one letting you know that they are with you. At least your ghost was considerate enough to flush the toilet after use thought! ;-)

Creeeeepy though!! My friend said the same thing- she didn’t have a feeling that it was malevolent, it just made her feel uneasy!

@cheebdragon – WHAAAAAT? PLEASE tell me that was a joke!! :-s

Capt_Bloth's avatar

I was putting groceries away. The eggs started popping right out of the container and frying on the counter. When I opened the refrigerator door, there was this other world. There were all these demons and spirits flying around, one of them looked at me and said “Zuhl”.

NaturalMineralWater's avatar

Again. Yes. Marriage.

NaturalMineralWater's avatar

@Courtybean This same question came up a while ago.

mattbrowne's avatar

If your girlfriend is struggling to find an explanation as to what is happening, she needs to find good sources which rely on scientific reasoning. And there are plenty. All the phenomena you were describing have a natural explanation. The ghosts are not real. You could have a look here

http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/pseudoscience.html

or ask the same question in this forum

http://www.skepticforum.com

Michael Shermer who is an expert on giving good explanations for almost every paranormal claim has come up with a list of 25 reasons why people believe weird things and he wrote a book about it. If your girlfriend really wants to get to the bottom of this, have a look at this overview of the 25 reasons and print it out for her:

1. Theory Influences Observations — When you have a theory of something, you interpret the results inside your theory. So when Columbus arrived in the New World, he saw Asian spices and roots. His theory said he should be in Asia.

2. The Observer Changes the Observed — The act of studying an event can change it. This can happen with anthropologists studying tribes to physicists studying electrons. This is why psychologists use blind and double-blind controls. Science tries to minimize this, pseudoscience does not.

3. Equipment Constructs Results — The equipment used often determines the results. The size of the telescope shaped and reshaped the size of the universe. The kind of fish net determines what fish it can catch.

4. Anecdotes != Science — Stories that people pass on is not the same as controlled experiments. Pseudoscience points to anecdotes; science points to reputable studies.

5. Scientific Language Doesn’t Make It Scientific — Dressing up a belief in scientific language doesn’t make it science. This is easily seen with “creation science” and New Age pseudoscientific mumbo-jumbo.

6. Bold Statements Do Not Make Claims True — L. Ron Hubbard called Dianetics “a milestone for man comparable to his discovery of fire and superior to his invention of the wheel and the arch.” But it wasn’t. The more extraordinary the claim, the more extraordinary well-tested the evidence must be.

7. Heresy Does Not Equal Correctness — Copernicus and Galileo and the Wright Brothers were rebels. But just because someone is a rebel doesn’t make them right. Holocaust deniers are rebels, but they need historical evidence for their position. It’s heresy to say Bush planned the 9/11 attack, but that isn’t evidence of the government suppressing the truth.

8. Burden of Proof — The person making the extraordinary claim has the burden of proving their claim is true and better than the commonly accepted position. If a man claims he moved a mountain with his mind, the burden of proof is on him.

9. Rumors Do Not Equal Reality — Rumors begin with “I read somewhere that…” or “I heard from someone that….” Before long, the rumor becomes reality, as “I know that…” passes from person to person. These stories are often false. For instance, everyone knows George Washington chopped down a cherry tree and couldn’t lie about it. He also had wooden teeth. Both stories are false.

10. Unexplained Is Not Inexplicable — Just because you can’t explain something doesn’t mean it can’t be explained. Firewalking seems inexplicable, but once you know the explanation it seems obvious. The same goes for all magic tricks. And even if an expert can’t explain it doesn’t mean it can’t be explained someday. Think of how many things — from germs to atoms to evolution — couldn’t be explained two hundred years ago!

11. Failures Are Rationalized — Scientists acknowledge failures and reformulate theories. Pseudoscientists ignore or rationalize failures.

12. After-the-Fact Reasoning — Also known as, “post hoc, ergo propter hoc,” literally, “after this, therefore because of this.” It’s superstition. Because I carried a rabbit’s foot, I sold more products today. Because I have blonde hair, I’m ditzy. Because I used a dowsing stick, I struck water. All superstition. Correlation does not mean causation.

13. Coincidence — Most people have a very poor understanding of the law of probability. Say you are about to make a call and as your hand touches the phone they call you. How could that be a coincidence? It must be ESP. We forget about the other thousand times we call someone and they don’t call us first. You make 5 baskets in a row, and you’re “on fire.” But statistically your chances are the same as a coin-flip. The human mind looks for patterns and often finds them when there are none.

14. Representativeness — Something may seem unusual when it’s not. Baselines must be established. For instance, tapping and scratching sounds in your house may be ghosts, but it’s probably just pipes and rats. Many ships are lost at the Bermuda Triangle, but only because there are more shipping lanes there than in surrounding areas. When that is factored in, the accident rate is actually lower in the Bermuda Triangle.

15. Emotive Words and False Analogies — Loaded language can be used to provoke emotion and obscure rationality. Industry can be called “raping the environment” or abortion “murdering innocent children” or a political opponent a “communist.” Rarely does this further rational thought, but clouds the issue with emotion and rhetoric.

16. Appeal to Ignorance — This claims if you can’t disprove something, it must be true. So if you can’t disprove psychic power or ESP or ghosts, they must be real. The problem is you can’t disprove Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy, either. Belief should come from positive evidence in support of a claim, not a lack of evidence.

17. Attacking the man —Redirect the focus from thinking about the idea to thinking about the person holding the idea. Calling Darwin a racist or a politician a communist or past figure a slaveholder does not discredit their ideas.

18. Hasty Generalization — Also known as prejudice, or drawing conclusions before the facts warrant. A couple of bad teachers and it’s a bad school. A couple of bad cars and that brand of automobile is unreliable.

19. Overreliance on Authorities — We must be careful not to accept a wrong idea from someone we respect, nor write off a good idea because of a supporter we disrespect. Examining the evidence ourselves helps us avoid these errors.

20. Either-Or — This is the argument that when one position is wrong, another must be accepted. For instance, creationists spend much of their time attacking evolution because they think if evolution is wrong, then creationism must be right. But for a theory to be accepted, it must be superior to the old theory. A new theory needs evidence in favor of it, not just against the opposition.

21. Circular Reasoning — Also known as begging the question, this is when the conclusion or claim is merely a restatement of one of the premises. For instance in religion: Is there a God? Yes. How do you know? Because my holy book says so. How do you know your holy book is correct? Because it was inspired by God. Or in science: What is gravity? The tendency for objects to be attracted to one another. Why are objects attracted to one another? Gravity. While these definitions can at times be useful, we need to try and construct operational definitions that can be tested, falsified, and refuted.

22. Reductio ad Absurdum and the Slippery Slope — Reductio ad absurdum is the refutation of an argument by carrying the argument to its logical end and so reducing it to absurd conclusion. For instance: Eating ice cream will cause you to gain weight. Gaining weight makes you overweight. Overweight people die of heart disease. Thus eating ice cream leads to death. A creationist might argue: Evolution doesn’t need God. If you don’t need God, you reject him. Without God, there is no morality. Therefore, people who believe in evolution reject God and have no morals.

23. Effort Inadequacies and the Need for Certainty, Control, and Simplicity — Most of us want certainty, want to control our environment, and want nice, neat simple explanations. But it doesn’t always work like that. Solutions are sometimes simple, but other times they are complex. We must be willing to make an effort to understand complex theories instead of rejecting them out of laziness.

24. Problem-Solving Inadequacies — When solving problems, we often form a hypothesis and then look only for examples to confirm it. When our hypothesis is wrong, we are slow to change our hypothesis. We also gravitate towards simple solutions even when they don’t explain everything.

25. Ideological Immunity — We all resist changing fundamental beliefs. We build up “immunity” against new ideas that do not fit within our paradigm. The higher the intelligence, the greater the potential for ideological immunity. This can be the greatest barrier to changing our weird beliefs.

Courtybean's avatar

@NaturalMineralWater – I wasn’t aware that the same question was up recently! But lol to your response! Does your wife know how you feel?

@mattbrowne – Yeah…. maybe I will just tell her some of those things, rather than printing it out for her because i’m pretty sure that will make her feel a bit stupid.

She has spoken of odd markings showing up around the house etc. and I do understand what # 8. is saying (very valid) but I guess i’ve just never considerded her to make up stuff like that.

Bugabear's avatar

Someone or thing keeps turning on the lights in my room. It’s a dimmer and when I turn it down it somehow magically comes back on. And the button has been pushed (it has an on/off button).

Courtybean's avatar

Please note: If you do decide to read my essay-ish response please know that it’s my honest intention of writing it in the spirit (please ingnore the pun) of good humor!
I’m not taking a dig at anyone, just as i’m sure mattbrowne wasn’t attempting to insut the intelligence of both myself and my friend who this question is based on.

I do believe that there are probably logical explanations for what happens or what we THINK happens to us… but i guess there will always be a part of my mind that wishes we weren’t always such rational as beings! Wouldn’t it be nice if there was just a little bit of mystery left in the world?!

Now… go forth and read!!

Well @Bugabear, there is a perfectly logical explanation for your mysterious dimming incidences! Please refer to the 25 items listed above, which explains why we’re all “cuckoo!” :-p
According to the list you and your “reported findings” fit into categories 3, 10, 13, 24 & 25.

Now…. sit back, enjoy and let me rationalise for you….

3. Equipment Constructs Results — The equipment used often determines the results. The size of the telescope shaped and reshaped the size of the universe. The kind of fish net determines what fish it can catch.

Rationalisation: You clearly have a crappy light/dimmer and if you hadn’t made such a poor choice in the type of light/light-switch when you were renovating, you wouldn’t be having these problems! It is a consequence of you buying an inferior product! If you hadn’t been so cheap at the time of purchase and spent that extra $150 for a decent light, then you wouldn’t have this mood lighting issue!

10. Unexplained Is Not Inexplicable — Just because you can’t explain something doesn’t mean it can’t be explained. Firewalking seems inexplicable, but once you know the explanation it seems obvious. The same goes for all magic tricks. And even if an expert can’t explain it doesn’t mean it can’t be explained someday. Think of how many things — from germs to atoms to evolution — couldn’t be explained two hundred years ago!

Rationalisation: Just because YOU can’t explain why your light keeps getting turned on doesn’t mean that it CAN’T be explained my dear @Bugabear! Firstly, I would recommend going to an expert in the field. I recommend either a) an electrician or b) a sales assistant that works in a shop where they sell light fixtures. They will surely be able to solve this problem. In the event that they can’t explain why it’s happening, maybe give them some time to think about and try asking again in 32 years! This should definitely work!! Actually…. now that I think of it, it DID take 200yrs to figure out the basics of germs, atoms and evolution… On second thoughts… you better make it 302 years instead!

13. Coincidence — Most people have a very poor understanding of the law of probability. Say you are about to make a call and as your hand touches the phone they call you. How could that be a coincidence? It must be ESP. We forget about the other thousand times we call someone and they don’t call us first. You make 5 baskets in a row, and you’re “on fire.” But statistically your chances are the same as a coin-flip. The human mind looks for patterns and often finds them when there are none.

Rationalisation: @Bugabear- you clearly have a very poor understanding of the laws of probability if you cannot explain why a) your lights turn on by themselves and b) why it happens so frequently! To further assist in developing your skills in “determining probable outcomes” I suggest that you either go and makes some more calls, play a lot of basketball, set yourself on fire and flip a few coins! This will instantly make you more aware on the likeliness as to why your light switch is being turned on 17 times a night! If these doesn’t help then maybe you should try recording a tally of every second or third time that you’ve noticed the ghost has turned on your light… no wait, that would be a pattern…. ok…. record it in a weekly spreadsheet so that you can see on which days the ghost is most likely to turn on your light… no wait, that’s a pattern also…. I’ve got it! Put up a tessellation picture above the light switch. This means that when you do go into your room and find that your light has once again been turned on, you will automatically be distracted by the OTHER patterns in your room and will quickly forget the light incidence!

24. Problem-Solving Inadequacies — When solving problems, we often form a hypothesis and then look only for examples to confirm it. When our hypothesis is wrong, we are slow to change our hypothesis. We also gravitate towards simple solutions even when they don’t explain everything.

Rationalisation: I hate to break it to you @Bugabear but… you have inadequate problem solving skills ALSO!! You have clearly formed a hypothesis that: “you have a ghost living in your house who isn’t very energy savvy or conscious” and now you are only looking for other examples to confirm this hypothesis. In this instance I would definitely advise NOT to purchase a touch lamp to place at your bedside. In the instance that you roll over during your sleep and accidentally tap the lamp on, upon waking you might believe that the ghost is now also turning on that one too!

25. Ideological Immunity — We all resist changing fundamental beliefs. We build up “immunity” against new ideas that do not fit within our paradigm. The higher the intelligence, the greater the potential for ideological immunity. This can be the greatest barrier to changing our weird beliefs.

Rationalisation: Final insult of your intelligence- you are immune to ideology! Open your mind up to the possibility of a world WITHOUT jokes! You have obviously built up an immunity does not allow yourself to challenge your theory of “inconsiderate spirits” and as a result, no one can tell you otherwise…. you narrow-minded human being! But hey, if I had a ghost/goblin/fairy/sasquatch or even Santa tapping into my electricity supply without asking, I would be a little annoyed too. Hello!!- They’re clearly not the ones paying the bills!

Apparently your beliefs are due to the fact that you are unintelligent! But you know what? Evidentially… so am I… as are the other people who have responded to this question with similar stories… as is my gf and about 2 billion other people in the world also share these beliefs so please don’t feel too bad about it, ok?!
In summary- because there has been no recent change in people’s beliefs of paranormal activity (lets face it, ghost stories have been around for centuries!) unless some breed of super-intelligent humans are created to wipe out the rest of us plebs, I feel very sorry for all of those people who ARE far more intelligent than we. Imagine having to put up with our idiocy on a daily basis!

I apologise to all of those people and sincerely hope that when I come back next time round, I’m reincarnated as distant relative to Einstein, one of the future editors of the Encyclopaedia Britannica or a earth worm… because they are not seen or heard and therefore are a nuisance toayone! PLUS they are very important to our environment!!
So @Bugabear, my advice for now is either to upgrade to a more “ghost-friendly” user account with your electricity company in effort to avoid hefty bills, as a result of excess usage… OR give him/her something better to do with their time. They’re probably just bored and having nothing better to do! Might I suggest offering them some stimulating and recreationally sound leisure activities like basket weaving, shooting hoops, playing coin toss OR taking some time to call their friends and relatives who they haven’t spoken to of late- limbo can prove to be quite testing of relationship!... Well, that’s what I’ve heard anyway!

I recommend that you attend to the predicament at hand in the very near future! I say this in case your inconsiderate-ghost-friend loses patience and decides to take up hobby that could be detrimental- like cooking. Or, worse still, gets so bored that he/she resorts to tidying up your room! I tell ya – you will REALLY be in trouble if they start doing your laundry! I hear they are shockers when it comes to putting a load in the washing machine. Apparently they only wear white so they don’t understand you can’t mix whites with colours!!
Good luck with it all!!

ticia's avatar

Hello everyone. I googled “anyone else experiencing paranormal activity” and found this first. I have lived in my home for ten years and the first year we moved in MANY things happened. At first it was fun to talk about it because it was so weird. But after about four months I prayed and actually walked through my home speaking the name of Jesus and declaring wahtever to leave. Two weeks ago we had two things happen. My husband dughter and myself all experienced it. With out a doubt I believe demonic spirits are real and they seek to distract us from peace and scare us.
My stomach is in a knot just googling this, but “what time I am afraid I will trust in HIM” Psalms 56:3. Anyway-tell your friend it is indeed possible, however I don’t believe “ghost“of people who died are trapped and bothering us.

mattbrowne's avatar

@Courtybean – Bad plumbing is often a good explanation for strange noises. Sometimes it’s also small critters moving around.

Tell your girlfriend not to believe in demonic spirits. They are not real. People get scared for nothing. Demonic spirits can be created in people’s brains for example when they feel remorse, because they have done something bad. Then the “spirit” haunts people in their head (but not by running around in a house) and if you want to avoid this, be a good person. Be kind to other people. Just like Jesus said.

Bugabear's avatar

You know what @Courtybean I probably do have a really crappy dimmer. And I’m normal a man of science but something like that just really pisses me off. I think I’ll go buy one of those motion sensor light switches. I saw one with a built-in dimmer. Thanks for writing all of that. Lurve.

Also I dont thinks it’s ghosts it most likely my sock gnomes getting tired with stealing my socks so they decided to screw around with me.

Bugabear's avatar

And @Courtybean after reading your response more thoroughly I disagree with number 13. The probability that my light switch quantum shifted into a state of “on” is ridiculously high. See this for more info.

And I can prove it was sock gnomes. See someone else managed to take a picture of them. And here are the ones that raid my girlfriends dress drawer.

cheebdragon's avatar

Drug use is life abuse?...?

Courtybean's avatar

@Bugabear- Do you really think that getting a motion sensor light is the best way to go? What happens if you are one of those people who rolls round in the bed a lot at night? That light is going to be flicking on every 12 seconds!

In response to number 13— I will dismiss your claims of quantum physics! This is mostly due to the fact that I opened up your link and though “WTF?! Nuh-ah… you might as well be speaking Japanese!” Have you actually tried any coin flipping or hoop shooting of late? From the sounds of your “rational” response, I’m going with no… no you haven’t!!

You know, there have recently been some studies conducted on sock gnomes activity and how they possess quite a devious nature. Apparently they are breaking out of the sock-stealing industry to bigger and better things! They’ve recently been reported to have also been stealing other under-garment items such as: bras and undies, along with pantyhose, shoe inserts and strapping tape (only if it’s worn under the clothes however!)

I would suggest perhaps setting a trap to catch them and then release them back into the forest. Apparently they like fungi just as much as socks!

@cheebdragon -Lol. What?!

Courtybean's avatar

@Bugabear – Lurve also for the documented evidence! Damn sock gnomes!!

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