Do you think about people trying to change other people's sexuality?

lol, that is the funnest thing I’ve seen this week
that article won’t piss anyone off

I think our sexual orientation is in us-not a mental outlook. Little girls and boys are attracted to little girls and boys at young ages. I’m talking about a pre adolescent life without abuse.

What about the world when death was a deterrent? homosexuals did not become ‘that’ way because anyone taught anything about it.

::Waits for DominicX::

I’ll fill in for him
I think it is absolutely absurd

No, definitely not. Their outward behavior can be changed, if they choose to lie to themselves and everyone around them. But inside, nothing will be different.

I agree, I think that most gay guys, are gay from birth. I would say that in some cases, they became gay due to abuse. That is only because I have studied a lot of psychology- before I did, I would have disagreed. But however it happend… it is hardwired in.

I won’t go as to say the article offends me… but it does remind me that there are some very nieve people in this world.

Here I am! :) Our resident (fah-laming) gay boy is now officially in the hizz-ouse. Don’t worry, mowens, you’re one too :).

Here’s why I don’t like this, despite this group’s seemingly non-religious affiliation and how they never come out and call it a “mental illness”:

This group isn’t about giving people options. If that were the case, then they would also support therapy to change someone from heterosexual to homosexual. They don’t believe the two are equal and that some people wish to be the other one, they believe that homosexuality is the inferior side, as evidenced by the titles of their lecture topics: “Protecting the Child, Preserving the Family, Honoring Life, Leaving Homosexuality.” It isn’t about acknowledging that some people are fine with homosexuality because homosexuality is normal, it’s about reinforcing a belief that it is always negative and always unwanted. It’s one of those “same shit, different asshole” things. Pardon moi Francais.

They talk about “society’s disapproval” as not being the only downside to homosexuality, well, I happen to think it is. In fact, I happen to think that 99.9% of the time, a person wants to change from homosexual to heterosexual because of society’s disapproval. This group does nothing more than strengthen society’s disapproval. Homosexuality is not a “lifestyle option”, it’s a sexual attraction. It’s up to you to do with it as you wish.

They keep stressing that “it doesn’t mean it’s normal”. Why? Why not? Why does it not have to be normal? I can understand someone maybe wanting to change it, but why do they have to keep stressing that it’s not “normal”? This shows that they are still ignorant as ever. Basically, no one knows what causes homosexuality, and I highly highly doubt it can be changed. But this group is not helping anything. The goal is to end the societal disapproval. That’ll help people learn to accept themselves to the point where they don’t feel the need to invest in religious zealotous, ignorant, and ineffective groups such as these.

Where does the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) hold conventions?

Where is there a closet big enough to hold them all?

Homosexuality and heterosexuality are not absolutes. It’s a scale, if not even more complicated.
And I do believe people can move on that scale, though how far, I’m not sure.

I’ve always believed as @Fyrius writes that homo and hetero are points on a scale with a whole lot of Gray shades in between. People who believe a hetero or homo can be moved to the absolute polar opposite in regards to their sexual attractions are kooks.

When I was young, I used to think everything was black and white. Good or Evil. Hetero or Homo. When I got older I realized that there was only gray. :)

My sister knew she was gay as early as age three. My other gay friends mostly have similar stories. I would suspect that it is as possible to switch someone’s sexual orientation as to turn an artist into a physicist. You might have some success but only if the person wants to make that change. And even then the basic desire will still be there.

Personally, unless someone asks you to help them change some aspect of their personalty, you are a busybody who should know better than to bother others. First, you need to clean your own house before you even think of making someone else clean theirs.

“Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

Personally, I think these guys did a good job with the definition of sexuality:
http://www.darcomic.org/2009/06/23/identity/
http://www.daniellecorsetto.com/GWS725.html

I was going to say I didn’t see anything wrong with NARTH offering those services, until I read @DominicX ‘s answer, which brings up a very good point. They only offer the services one way and make a very clear point of saying which one is “right.” In general, I am not opposed to the idea of sexuality counseling. Some people find the transition too painful to do alone or to think about. I am opposed to parents forcing their children to go to a counselor like that when they disapprove and hope to “Save” their child. But if the child wants someone to talk to about it, and some kids do have the opinion that homosexuality is bad on top of all the confusion, I don’t think it’s a bad thing.

“Fah-laming” made my life.

I’m training to be a lesbian. Wish me luck.

I think it’s hilarious that people think they’re actually fixing something. When my best friend came out, his mother told him repeatedly that she was praying for him and hoped he would “get better” soon.

I’ve seen videos of people who claim to have been “cured” of their homosexuality. But, I don’t believe it one bit. Perhaps they have fooled themselves, but I do not, in any way believe that’s their true, natural self.

I try very hard not to think about that. I have lost friends to suicide as a result of people and programs that supposedly could “cure” homosexuality. The ones that survived treatment will most likely be in therapy for the rest of their lives. So no, I try very hard not to think about that.

It doesn’t work. It’s stupid and harmful and should be disapproved of by society. I’m gay and I know I couldn’t change that.

Agreed. I just wanted everyone to see the article. :)