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Any good musicals in the last few years?

Asked by Zen_Again (9936points) November 27th, 2009

Seems they’re all crap since “Rent.”

Londoners, Manhattaners and those living in cities that get travelling shows – seen any good musicals?

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Buttonstc's avatar

The Lion King.

Julie Taymore’s visual imagination and choreography are unparalled.

Zen_Again's avatar

@Buttonstc Mixed reviews, I’m talking from people I know. But other than that one… is there nothing going on? Where’s the Lloyd Webbers and Tim Rices – where’s the La Mancha and My Fair Ladies?

Thammuz's avatar

Avenue Q? (i’m not sure how old it is, but i like it…)

shego's avatar

Spring Awakening was an excellent one. I saw it last Friday.

PretentiousArtist's avatar

We’re knights of the round table…

OpryLeigh's avatar

Avenue Q is awesome if you’re into rude puppets that is! I also like Wicked, Sister Act (which is currently in London), Billy Elliot (which is STUNNING) and Hairspray.

Zen_Again's avatar

@Leanne1986 Old, old, oldish and ancient (in that order of “revival” and adaptation from film or book to the stage. I’m looking for new stuff. ;-)

Side: when will we see Adam Lambert in a great musical on Broadway? Maybe the Freddie Mercury story? Is a famous director listening to me… this is gold!

Buttonstc's avatar

I think Adam would be terrific.

He’s such a natural for Broadway and then all the haters couldn’t complain how his sexuality could corrupt their kids or something. If you don’t like the sensuality he exudes, don’t bring your kids to the theater.

During his time on AI, they did some of these biographical vignettes on each contestant with accompanying footage of any home movies from their childhood.

Even as a kid in the little stuff he did for his parents’ camera, you could see the potential. He had “Broadway Star” written all over him even at 6–8 yrs. old.

OpryLeigh's avatar

@Zen_Again Maybe they’re just running out of ideas for new stuff but with everything I mentioned above, the stories maybe well known from book or film but they are still very fresh shows. Billy Elliott and Sister Act have been changed slightly to have that musical feel. I’m assuming you want something that is not adapted from anything? In that case, Andrew Lloyd Webber is opening the sequel to The Phantom of The Opera next year in the West End. I’m dubious of that though….!

Zen_Again's avatar

A sequel? Oy vey.

Thanks for making the effort. Actually, I’m just looking for a little conversation – preferably theatrical, where I feel comfortable.

Lurve.

PretentiousArtist's avatar

If someone even dares to think about Andrew Lloyd Webber’s banal adaption of The Phantom of the Opera, I’m leaving this site. I am not kidding

skfinkel's avatar

Fela just opened in NYC. It’s an exciting and wonderful show, but not many humming type songs like in Fiddler on the Roof or West Side Story.

Darwin's avatar

There seem to be only a few really great musical composers/writers in every generation, and there seem to be fewer and fewer since the number of entertainment options has expanded. Nowadays, Broadway seems obsessed with revivals, blockbuster spectaculars, and sure-things, as a way of making sure that money flows into the coffers, now that people have not just films and radio, but also the internet and iPods and watches that can download and show movies on demand.

In the 1920’s we had George Gershwin, Cole Porter, Jerome Kern, Vincent Youmans, and Richard Rodgers and Lorenz Hart and Oscar Hammerstein. Yes, movies existed but they were black and white, while theater was in living color. So our eyes turned to the stage.

The 1930’s were hard on musical theater because the money really wasn’t there for long runs. Instead, the movies became more important. However, Porter and Gershwin et al. kept writing. They had to – it was what they did for a living, and did well.

Then, once money came back and folks needed to keep their minds off war, there were many great writers in the 1940’s, including more hits from Porter, Irving Berlin, and Rodgers and Hart, and new hits from Leonard Bernstein and others. And it was then that Rodgers and Hammerstein got together and started writing “blockbuster” shows, ones where everything advanced the story or defined the characters. Half-naked ladies weren’t on stage just to titillate, and the action dealt with real world problems, such as miscegenation (South Pacific).

The 1950’s and 1960’s continued the development of the “new” style of musical that was entertaining and relevant at the same time. Lerner and Loewe got into Broadway, Leonard Bernstein continued, Laurents and Sondheim worked together, and musicals reached a huge number of people because Hollywood turned so many of them into terrific movies. However as the 1960’s became the 1970’s, rock musicals became the show du jour.

More recently, musical theater has become mostly revivals or great special effects (remember the helicopter in Miss Saigon? And of course, all the Disney productions). Shows have become so incredibly expensive to produce that ticket prices have soared, investors want to go for “sure-thing” revivals, or you get giant monoliths such as Disney involved. Nowadays, shows end up with corporate sponsors or don’t get to Broadway, so composers have gone looking for other ways to make money. Also, a lot of shows are made up of a minimal plot to fit a collection of songs that have already been hits. There are new musicals, but they start off somewhere else than Broadway and many never get there.

It seems to me that we are having an explosion in wonderful film music these days, and that may be the new “Golden Age” that is attracting the great musical composers.

As Stephen Sondheim said: “You have two kinds of shows on Broadway – revivals and the same kind of musicals over and over again, all spectacles. You get your tickets for The Lion King a year in advance, and essentially a family… pass on to their children the idea that that’s what the theater is – a spectacular musical you see once a year, a stage version of a movie. It has nothing to do with theater at all. It has to do with seeing what is familiar…. I don’t think the theatre will die per se, but it’s never going to be what it was…. It’s a tourist attraction.”

And then there is what Broadway historian John Kenrick wrote: “Is the Musical dead? ...Absolutely not! Changing? Always! The musical has been changing ever since Offenbach did his first rewrite in the 1850s. And change is the clearest sign that the musical is still a living, growing genre. Will we ever return to the so-called “golden age,” with musicals at the center of popular culture? Probably not. Public taste has undergone fundamental changes, and the commercial arts can only flow where the paying public allows.”

While there are some good musical theater happening, it is harder to find because it is tucked away in regional theater or overseas. Sometimes it gets here (as in The Boy from Oz and Kat and the Kings) and sometimes it doesn’t. You may have to look harder. And of course, it is rather difficult to hum along with Sondheim. That is some difficult music.

hannahsugs's avatar

I love the musical Wicked. It takes the Wizard of Oz story and re-invents it brilliantly. The music is truly fantastic, and if you go see it there’s some fun dance numbers as well. The characters are well-developed and there’s many twists and turns that take you far beyond the original story. I highly recommend it.

it is, of course, based on a book with the same title. The book is good, but very different from the musical adaptation

Darwin's avatar

But Wicked isn’t exactly new – it opened in May 2003. That makes it 6, almost 7 years old.

hannahsugs's avatar

@Darwin: fair enough, but @Zen_Again says in his question that he hadn’t seen anything good since Rent. Wicked is certainly post-Rent.

Darwin's avatar

True, Rent dates to 1996, so it is quite a bit older. But perhaps @Zen_Again didn’t like Wicked?

Zen_Again's avatar

@skfinkel You wrote: …humming type songs like in Fiddler on the Roof or West Side Story….

Big Sigh. There are no more humming tunes like those you’ve mentioned.

Those were the days, my friend, we thought they’d never end; but they seem to have ended. Abruptly. N’est ce pas?

You’d think plus ca change… but there don’t seem to be any new good humming musicals.

Everything is fucking puppets.

breedmitch's avatar

Next to Normal was good, but I’m a big Alice Ripley Fan.
Fela! was just ok, but it’s not really my cup of tea.
(Title of Show) was alot of fun, but had a hard time finding an audience.
Spring Awakening was excellent!
Memphis is such a bust. I’m not sure how it’s still open.
Passing Strange was on last year. It had it’s moments.

I see everything. My favorites this season have all been revivals.

Buttonstc's avatar

@Zen

Oooh, I loooove watching puppets f***king.

:D

Zen_Again's avatar

I have some great youtube clips if you’d like to watch puppets f@cking…

Buttonstc's avatar

There was a show a while ago with two Aussie (I believe) guys called “The Puppetry of the Penis”

Have you heard about it or seen it? Really funny.

OpryLeigh's avatar

Was We Will Rock You post Rent? I know it’s not to everyones taste but I LOVE that show!

Darwin's avatar

We Will Rock You opened in the West End at the Dominion Theatre on May 14, 2002, so it is indeed post-Rent but pre-Wicked. However, fun it is, though, it represents one of the “safe” types of musical, sometimes called a “jukebox” musical, in which previously successful songs are linked together by a loose plot (or no plot at all, just settings). These are guaranteed to give investors a return on their money because fans of the original songs will love the show and some new music fans will also come. Did you know there is a sequel in the works?

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