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What is the most racist country in the world?

Asked by w2pow2 (490points) December 6th, 2009

I’ve heard Sweden, who shut down it’s ‘Race Purity’ program in the 1970’s. What country do you think is the most racist and why?

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tyrantxseries's avatar

North America USA&Canada

pjanaway's avatar

Australia – But they only do it jokingly ;) Always throwing the N word and making fun of asians.

Apart from that I guess Germany during world war 2.

Jeruba's avatar

I’ve always heard it was Japan, but I don’t have any real knowledge on the subject.

reacting_acid's avatar

@tyrantxseries Booo! Canada is awesome! And not as rascist…..

wildflower's avatar

According to this survey analysis from 2000, it would be Italy (and Northern Ireland ain’t looking too good either).

DominicX's avatar

The least racist and homophobic country was Sweden.

That doesn’t surprise me in the least. Sweden is the closest we have to a perfect country these days. Come on, Ikea and bubblegum dance come from Sweden…

ragingloli's avatar

@DominicX
but it’s socialist!

wildflower's avatar

@ragingloli please tell me that’s sarcasm!

ragingloli's avatar

@wildflower
what else could it be?

wildflower's avatar

@ragingloli: a very odd attitude, a silly fear of anything other than consumerism….but phew, it’s not :)

holden's avatar

I don’t think this is a valid question.

DominicX's avatar

@holden Why not?

It’s perfectly valid to wonder which country has the most widespread racism. It may not be easy to measure, but there are ways of coming close to it and estimating it.

holden's avatar

Because everyone is racist, at least to some extent, whether they acknowledge it or not.

DominicX's avatar

@holden

I completely disagree, but that’s a different argument altogether.

pjanaway's avatar

@holden – Thats true, I say alot of racist things in the real world. But I don’t mean anything bad by it, if people are offended by what I say then its their problem. I wouldn’t care if they made fun of me for being white.. lol

w2pow2's avatar

I would agree that racism is easy to slip into if you’re not careful. But saying that everyone is a little racist? How can you factually justify that?

holden's avatar

@DominicX that’s your right.
@w2pow2 by the fact that nobody is blind to race.

DominicX's avatar

Racism is not simply the non-blindness to race, racism is a belief that there are inherent differences among the races that determine behavior, often involving the belief that certain races are inferior to others. A belief which I do not have. Additionally, I find the word “race” to be vague at best, but that’s the best I have to work with…

holden's avatar

@reacting_acid blind people can perceive differences in others though.

reacting_acid's avatar

But what differences? If rascism, is based on physical attributes like eye shape and skin colour, how do blind people perceive those?

beautifulbobby193's avatar

South Africa is notorious for race related issues.

juwhite1's avatar

South Africa was once notorious for race-related problems, but they’ve come a long, long way in the last couple of decades. There is now a deep national feeling that unity among the races, respecting differences, and acceptance of others is the key to South Africa’s success.
If I had to pick the most “racist” country, I’m not sure I could do it, but I’d be willing to go out on a limb and say that Jamaica is probably the most homophobic country, with a couple of nations in the middle east vying for second place..

holden's avatar

No, I think the award for most homophobic goes to Iran or Saudi Arabia.

archaeopteryx's avatar

USA is also notorious for race related issues. (Remember what KKK used to do?)

juwhite1's avatar

@holden – How did you know that was one of those Middle Eastern countries I felt was vying for second place? You could be right… Both countries are predisposed to killing people for being gay (after torture).

dpworkin's avatar

@archaeopteryx You believe that Israel is harvesting Ukrainian’s organs? Didn’t you realize that that story was about the madness of the anti-Semites in Ukraine, not about how Israelis are actually bloodthirsty monsters? Jesus Christ, get an education.

ragingloli's avatar

why would they import ukrainian kids? i would think that african kids are much easier to obtain. or excess chinese ones (from their 1 child limit doctrine)

archaeopteryx's avatar

@pdworkin
Oh yeah, right, I forgot that anyone who dares to reveal how bloodthirsty the state of Israel is becomes a terrorist, anti-Semite, and his name gets included to the “Axis of evil”..

For God’s sake, what more racism than that do you want?
Ya know what?
What more racism do you want than killing an innocent American young woman because she dared to stand in the way of an Israeli bulldozer that was destroying a Palestinian house?

tyrantxseries's avatar

standing in front of bulldozers is bad for your health

dpworkin's avatar

@archaeopteryx There is no point in my continuing this discussion with you, because I have a bad temper, and I am likely to start characterizing you honestly if I am forced to read and respond to any more of your vile, contemptible, false and vicious propaganda.

archaeopteryx's avatar

@pdworkin
Ooooh!!
I am sorry!!
Did I break your heart?

See?
See what I’m talking about? He who dares to say anything bad about Israel becomes ”vile, contemptible, false and vicious”.. And his simple and totally neutral and independent opinion is then interpreted into a propaganda..

What more racism than than do you want?

archaeopteryx's avatar

@reacting_acid
@tyrantxseries

But drinking too much of the CNN, BBC and Fox News kool-aides is much worse.

reacting_acid's avatar

@archaeopteryx
@pdworkin

OK! We get it! Now shut the hell up! And I agree about the whole kool-aides thing :)

tyrantxseries's avatar

@archaeopteryx
I’ll make you a deal, I’ll start “drinking” more CNN, BBC and Fox News kool-aid, and you stand in front of a bulldozer and we’ll see what happens…lol
also I don’t watch T.V

juwhite1's avatar

I would agree that Israel, like so many countries caught up in long term wars over turf and ideology, has done some pretty despicable things. However, the source for the article on abducting Ukrainian children for body parts is far from reliable. Can you find references to this in more neutral publications? Wouldn’t the abduction of 25,000 children for harvesting organs be picked up on by other sources? I’d think at about child number 1,000, this would be international news (especially since Americans have such a strong interest in getting Ukrainian children for adoption and therefore love to find instances of abuse in Ukrainian orphanages). I don’t see you as a terrorist or a vile person, but I do think you may be relying on unreliable information to form your opinions. Now, if you can find this in numerous media reports, with actual facts to back it up, this story takes on a whole different angle. I googled it a bit (not extensively) and found a few other reports of Israel kidnapping Ukrainian children, stating it was their new source (as in they used to have other sources). Again, this was from a propaganda machine rather than a reliable journalistic source or research paper, but none-the-less, that would seem to indicate that if it were true, the motive isn’t racist if they are just getting the kids from the easiest, most convenient source. Still, since I can’t find (although I admittedly didn’t spend much time on it) any reputable sources alleging that Israel is doing this in the first place, I have to wonder how much of this is propaganda. It reminds me a bit of when slanted media outlets used to say horrible things like this about Jews eating children. There was never any evidence Jews were actually practicing canibalism of their young, but it made great press when people had an ideology to sell!

juwhite1's avatar

Ha! I never thought I’d see CNN and Fox News lumped together! Sorry… that just tickled me!

archaeopteryx's avatar

@tyrantxseries
You don’t have to.
‘coz merely visiting their websites, and reading newspapers like Washington Post yields the same result.

Plus, my focus on Rachel Corrie in specific was mainly because she’s American, just as most of you are. ’

Meaning: Even Americans are not allowed to speak or behave in any way that pisses Israel off.

deni's avatar

south africa

archaeopteryx's avatar

@juwhite1
They are merely two faces of the same coin.

archaeopteryx's avatar

@juwhite1
Oh sure!
Simply Googling for “Isreal Ukraine Kids” yields a lot of good results.
Here are some of them:

1, 2, 3, 4,….

sliceswiththings's avatar

Spain! Well maybe just un-PC, my minority friends had a really hard time.

dpworkin's avatar

Here is a quote from @archaeopteryx‘s non-biased website number 2, a source of which he seems to be proud:

The truth about the jews is so hideously evil none who first encounter it are able to believe it. After being initiated into this truth, over a period of months you will find that it is only reinforced by further information you obtain from other sources, and the true history and current circumstances of our world will begin to emerge.

An anecdote I’d like to relate. While in Nuertingen, Germany I encountered a woman who was being tortured to death with electromagnetic radiation, which I surmised she had been enduring for at least a decade. She said that her ordeal began when she observed German children being abducted. Since then I’ve become aware of the jewish practice of ritually murdering non-jewish children, and have to wonder if this is what this woman had observed.

The medieval occurrence of ritual slaughter of non-jewish children by the jews has been confirmed by an internationally respected jewish scholar, Ariel Toaff:

DominicX's avatar

@sliceswiththings

Not Spain! :(...it has the coolest names for provinces ever: Castille, Aragon, Catalonia, Navarre, Extremadura, Andalusia, Granada…they roll off the tongue, it’s melodic…

I wanted to move to the Canary Islands…

archaeopteryx's avatar

Hey everyone!!
Can any of you please tell me where did I mention anything about being proud of any of the links I listed above??

‘coz Mr. @pdworkin claims I did!

lloydbird's avatar

Perhaps a specific definition of what is meant here by the term “racist” would be of help to the discussion.

juwhite1's avatar

@archaeopteryx – Source 1. – An iReport (ie, not from a journalist) submitted from an Aljazeera article (we all know how much they love Israel)
Source 2. RebelNews, which also contains an article titled, “An Invention Called the Jewish People,” and “Understanding Jewish Supremicism” – Oh Goodie! Using a Racist, hateful source to justify an article alleging that Israel is kidnapping children and hacking them apart! That’s a neutral, reliable source!
Source 3. – The Palestine Telegraph – Um… you are aware that Palestinians and Israelis are killing each other and throwing all sorts of ridiculous allegations at each other, are you not?
Source 4. – Ukraine Academic – Clearly you didn’t read this… Here are the first two paragraphs for your review. “Stories appearing on several Ukrainian Web sites claim Israel has brought around some 25,000 Ukrainian children into the country over the past two years in order to harvest their organs.

The claim, which was made by a Ukrainian philosophy professor and author at a pseudo-academic conference in Kiev five days ago, is the latest expression of a wave of anti-Semitism in the country. It comes a few months after a Swedish tabloid ran an article alleging that Israel Defense Forces soldiers have killed Palestinian civilians for their organs.”

Really? Using a source that states this claim is part of a wave of anti-semitism to back your argument up?

Again – you are relying on extremely unreliable sources to develop your opinion, here. What’s worse, is that the very sources you are using to allege racism against one group are in themselves, extremely racist.

dpworkin's avatar

@archaeopteryx Why would you publish a source of which you were ashamed?

archaeopteryx's avatar

@pdworkin
@juwhite1

I’m not backing my argument up.
I’m just giving you examples of sites that talk about the subject, and I’m leaving the research and investigation part to you. Or do I have to do that homework for you??

Also, @juwhite1
What is your definition for a “reliable source”?
Remember, there really ain’t no such thing as Utopia. People who write these articles are, in the end, human beings like you and me. They are not machines.
Which means it’s impossible to find one of them writing an article 1000% neutral as you want it. What you should do, and perhaps the genius @pdworkin should do as well is read a bunch of these articles (either with or against) then decide for yourself!

I’m not forced to do your homework.

(That is, of course, IF you really give a damn about anything.)

reacting_acid's avatar

Waah, does nobody listen to me!!! There goes my self esteem…

juwhite1's avatar

When I’m seeking a reliable source, I look for a neutral party, first and foremost. I then look for a history if journalist integrity or a history of solid academic research and peer review (depending on what type of information I’m using). I am an experienced researcher, so I do feel I am capable of sifting through a lot if information and finding the most reliable sources, whatever the topic. Trying to get through a doctoral dissertation without that ability would be impossible! Your sources, however, are so far from reliable on this subject, that I can’t imagine anyone, with or without any experience or education on the subject, would think they were offering a valuable insight into real, lived experiences rather than just offering a bunch of crap based on over 100 years of stories about Jews killing little kids out of their personal greed. It is an old, tired mantra.
As a side note, I am not Christian, Jewish, or Muslim, either in heritage or religious views, so I think my opinion that these sorts of stories are absolutely ridiculous, at a minimum, meets the criteria of being a neutral party!

syz's avatar

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oratio's avatar

‘Race Purity’ Program? I am not sure what you refer to. I am a Swede. Not an overly proud Swede. Nor am I an ashamed Swede. At the moment, you can look at me as a somewhat irritated Swede.

We, as most countries in the west, had in the earlier part of the 20th century racially prone politics and opinions. But yes – in the 30’s – we lobotomized, sterilized, and castrated people, due to racial purity reasons. These were, among others, people with Down’s Syndrome and other mental handicaps and homosexuals as well as criminals. It was however not racial prone. We had close to no immigrants of other “races” in Sweden, and was already “racial pure” so to speak. There would have been no need to have such a program.

But were Swedish people racist in general these times? Yes. Compared to todays standard, we were very much so. Hateful? No.

It was a darker time for Europe, and we were a part of that as most western countries were. I would suggest you look at your own country of these times from that aspect as well. Most don’t come out all that well. The image of the US is not that pretty. Jews were not that welcome.

We had a Racial Biology Institute who was changed into The Institute of Medicinal Genetics up into the late 50’s. It sounds bad, and in some aspects it were, but was aimed at research concerning development of populations in the world, considering climate and situation as well as the impact of genetical inheritance for disease as well as roots for alcoholism, criminal behaviour and mental disorders. Today it’s research is a part of the University of Uppsala’s genetic research.

The OP question and the basis for it is preposterous. There is a big influx of immigrants into Europe as well as the US. Change is not always that easy, and there will always be people who are not happy with that. There are immigrants who doesn’t like other immigrants as well for whatever reasons.

Sweden has for a long time worked hard for both peace in conflicts, as well as with the politics of European immigration. I find it insulting to call a whole country racist. Of course there are racist Swedes, but it’s not a part of our cultural mentality.

mattbrowne's avatar

I think there’s nothing wrong (in moderation) when people are proud of their country and cultural achievements. The problem begins when some people really feel superior and really feel that others are inferior. This ugly phenomenon exists in almost every country in the world. It’s even uglier when it goes beyond nationality and includes race, ethnicity, culture, language, age, gender, sexuality and so forth.

Some people post comments like that:

“X is the most racist country in the world.”
“X right now is a hotbed of anti-Y sentiment.”
“Some countries, like X, aren’t so secretive about being anti-Y.”
“The X want them (Y) out, as do the Z.”
“The X are some of the most xenophobic people.”

My advice is no one should ever write sentences in this way, because people are getting on very dangerous turf. It’s not only insulting to many people, I also think in most cases it’s clearly very wrong. It’s cliché. It’s a generalization. Why not use sentences like this based on your experience?

“X has one of the highest race-related crime statistics.”
“In the election in X, the openly xenophobic party received one of the highest percentage voter turnout in the world.”
“A survey in X revealed that Y% were Z.”
“In parts of X society there seem to be more hotbeds of anti-Y sentiment.”
“In some countries, like X, there are people who aren’t so secretive about being anti-Y.”
“Some people in X want them (Y) out, as do some in Z.”
“A few X seem to belong to the most xenophobic people I’ve ever met.”
“X is currently run by an openly anti-Y leader.”

For example

Iran is currently run by an openly anti-semitic leader.

Or

From from 1933 to 1945 Germany was run by Nazis who implemented one of the most perverse and inhuman ideologies in the history of humankind which included cruel totalitarianism, xenophobia, racism, anti-semitism and eugenics.

w2pow2's avatar

I agree with @mattbrowne in the sense that feeling superior to someone else due to differences in race (I think that word is misleading BTW), nationality, ethnicity, culture, language, age, gender, or sexuality is wrong.
But one question I would like to ask is this: Can an individual’s surroundings and atmosphere have an influence on that individual?
Example: In some third-world countries where crime, scandal and corruption run a muck, are the inhabitants of that country more likely to adopt the lifestyle of that social norm?
Differences in race are irrelevant, and in most cases, any attempt to make those differences a significant factor is immoral.
But what about differences in culture?
Let me know below.

ragingloli's avatar

@w2pow2
Feeling superior because of culture is still subjective. It implies that you are better than them. But according to whose standards? Westerners might think that they are superior to Muslims in the Middle East because westerners don’t force their women to walk around with a Burqa. But at the same time Muslims feel superior to Westerners because of the same issue, because they think forcing women to walk around with a Burqa is the right thing to do.

w2pow2's avatar

I agree that it’s wrong to feel superior because of all that and my original question still stands.

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