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What's the different between Gregg Gillis (Girltalk) and Jason Derulo?

Asked by Breefield (2733points) December 6th, 2009

I’ve been hearing the song “Whatcha Say” by Jason Derulo quite a lot (listen here). Initially I was going to ask the question “Do you think Jason Derulo received permission from Imogen Heap to use a snippet of her song ‘Hide and Seek’, in his song?”
I realized this isn’t exactly what I mean to ask – as I quite like the artist Girltalk and his ideology about how intellectual property rights should work.
So rather, what’s the difference? Off the cuff, I see that Girltalk’s songs are entirely made up clips of other songs, whereas Jason Derulo mixed Imogen Heap’s clip in which his own track. But I think the crux of the issue might be deeper than that.

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nayeight's avatar

I don’t know who Girltalk is but I love Imogen Heap and I hate that Jason Derilo song. I hate when people sample other songs and make them sound crappy, especially good ones that I really like. I think people should just make their own original music. I’m not sure about this but I thought that in order to sample something you have to get the artists permission or they can sue….

El_Cadejo's avatar

There is a huge difference. Girl talk takes tons of songs and combines them into a master piece. This asshole is just riding the fame of the other song.

Fuck you Kanye West for what you did to daft punk.

@nayeight Girltalk is amazing his whole cd is uploaded there, give it a listen. You wont be disappointed i promises :P

Breefield's avatar

But aren’t they doing…essentially the same thing? Only to different magnitudes? Gregg Gillis is famous (if not more famous than Jason Derulo) for using other people’s songs. Perhaps it’s the attitude, as in, it’s not a question of intellectual property, but rather of the attitude one takes when sharing, remixing, mashing up, and reusing it.

fireinthepriory's avatar

I think the real difference is that without using Imogen Heap’s “Hide and Seek,” Jason Derulo wouldn’t have a song. Same with Kanye Wests’s “Stronger,” and his “Gold Digger” for that matter. They were almost adding to the original material rather than actually creating something new with it, which is what Girltalk does. You could tell Girltalk not to use any one song in one of his songs, but he’d still have a piece of music. That’s the real difference. (And yes, I’m sure that West and Derulo had to get permission to use these other artists’ songs!)

wildpotato's avatar

@uberbatman Y’know when you read something that someone wrote that’s awesome, and you click on their username to add them to your fluther, and you discover that you’ve already done so? I get that with you a lot.

nayeight's avatar

Can we really be mad at Kanye West and Jason Derulo (or anyone else for sampling these songs) when the artist who made the originals gave them permission? Sometimes I get pissed at the original artist for letting whoever ruin their song in the first place.

El_Cadejo's avatar

@nayeight yes, yes we can.

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