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le_inferno's avatar

Do you believe that guys are jerks, or girls are just stupid?

Asked by le_inferno (6194points) December 7th, 2009

I had a couple girls in my dorm room last night complaining about how “guys are assholes.” Apparently, they’ve both been the victims of guys who used them for sex. One girl claims she slept with one guy because he seemed to really like her (i.e., asked her out to lunch, told her she had pretty eyes). The other girl had feelings for a guy she’d been sleeping with, but he didn’t return them. Are guys really assholes, or are girls just dumb and impressionable enough to fall prey to their methods? Malice aside, having sex with a guy right away sets up a precedent for the relationship. If a girl wants a relationship with a guy, perhaps sleeping with him immediately just isn’t the right way to go about it.

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chelseababyy's avatar

Guys can be assholes and girls can be stupid, however I think that the maturity level of the person has everything to do with it.

OpryLeigh's avatar

Neither. Anyone regardless of whether they are male or female can be an arsehole or a dumbass.

marinelife's avatar

Some guys are assholes and some girls are stupid. One can’t generalize as the opposite is also true.

As for this particular case, I am surprised at your faulting the women in these two cases. Do I think women should, in general, think more of themselves and their bodies than to give them away in the casual manner? Yes.

However, you weren’t there for either of these relationships. Do you really know what occurred? Perhaps the men were manipulative, or perhaps they were confused and thought they cared more for the women than they did. The women both clearly believed the men cared for them. That is painful, but not necessarily stupid.

dpworkin's avatar

It takes time to learn to navigate the shoals of human relationships. People don’t have to be assholes or stupid to behave badly or make mistakes. I always cautioned my kids to go slowly, and to feel that a friendship was really in place before they allowed themselves to get serious with anyone.

le_inferno's avatar

I realize the question is posed in a generalized way, but what I’m really getting at is whether or not it’s true that guys get a worse wrap than they deserve. Girls, too, are at fault.

ninjacolin's avatar

I think the answer is that people just like having fun. They get embarrassed about it though and they want to blame the other person when asked about it. They want others to consider them nearly-pious and sexually “normal”.. so they claim the “reason” for the event was something other than what it was when really, they’re happy to have had the experience at all.

“guys are jerks” could easily be replaced with: “we were just foolin around, having fun”.. but at the risk of seeming.. “loose” to your friends.

dpworkin's avatar

In pre-history there were a couple of male strategies for procreation: forced copulation (rape) dishonest courtship (I love you, let’s fuck) and honest courtship (building a committed relationship.) One and Two were not nearly as adaptive as Three, but since they sometimes worked it times of limited sexual opportunity, they survived. Youth is a time of diminished sexual opportunity, so misbehavior on the part of males is statistically higher.

eponymoushipster's avatar

if some chick bangs a guy because he said she has “nice eyes” and lunch, she’s probably got some issues, if she’s dropping her Juicy sweatpants for such a meh compliment and some panera.

the guy’s a jerk for doing it, but she’s just being easy.

justme1's avatar

Guys can be jerks and girls can be stupid, both are possible. Guys shouldn’t “use” girls just for sex unless they agree that is all they both want out of it, and girls who don’t want to be used shouldn’t jump into it right away and get to know the guy to be more confident that she won’t end up feeling “used”

deni's avatar

Guys aren’t all jerks. Girls aren’t all stupid. Lots of times girls look for romance and fall for the first guy that shows them affection. And sometimes you can’t blame them if the guy does a good job covering up that he’s a jerk. And sometimes he is and sometimes he isn’t. There are lots of good guys out there, and I hate when women generalize by saying ALL GUYS ARE PIGS. Or MEN ARE ALL JERKS. No, they aren’t.

Dog's avatar

^^ What @deni said.

Axemusica's avatar

People blame others as a way to justify their own mistakes. In this case the mistake being that these women assumed this that and the other with out making anything clear. The same for the “assholes.” I’d have to agree with @chelseababyy in that maturity plays a very important role in who’s an asshole and who’s an idiot. I also do agree with @Marina though as in you just heard these girls bitching and moaning, because things didn’t turn out like they expected it to. Usually people tend to tell their stories of “the encountering of the asshole” or “I just had sex with a box of rocks” in a biased setting to win over the listening party in their favor. The only true way to see who’s at fault if there even was 1 certain person is to walk back through each persons involvement with the situation, not just a one sided cry-a-thon.

Violet's avatar

both CAN be true, but not all guys are jerks, and not all girls are stupid. Often, a person attracts and is attracted to jerks..
(There are many girls that are jerks, and many guys that are stupid.)

TominLasVegas's avatar

We are jerks,but women can be drama queens and overbearing.

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