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Which politicians would you like to see booted out of office?

Asked by ucme (50047points) December 12th, 2009

I know most are candidates but which ones in particular?

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gailcalled's avatar

Well, Mark Sandford’s wife just booted him out of the marriage. The SC legislature simply slapped his hands.

JustPlainBarb's avatar

Sadly, most of them.
Seriously, I have a very low opinion of politicians. However, we do have one brand new State Senator in our district. He is great and I was pleasantly surprised how approachable and concerned he’s been. I’m just hoping he doesn’t change as he gets more into the job!

proXXi's avatar

Our new US Attorney General, Eric Holder:

His use of the word ‘cowards’ in his speech at Obama’s inauguration was disgusting and totally unprofessional.

When defending his shaky position to congress he is obviously completely out of his depth.

juwhite1's avatar

Sarah Palin… but she took care of that for us!

MENSAN's avatar

Any of them who have a first, last, or middle name with the letters “A” or “E” in it.

gradyjones's avatar

Mark Sanford for deriliction of duty and for not being trustworthy.

aprilsimnel's avatar

The entire New York State Senate. If it’s not the shameful vote on marriage equality, it’s the dithering about our state going broke.

janbb's avatar

Dick Cheney. Oh – he is out of office?

Shatzee's avatar

I would like to boot ‘em all and start over fresh.

dpworkin's avatar

Albany is one of the most corrupt State governments in the country. We need not only a new Governor and a new legislature, but a new set of very restrictive financing and operating rules to fix it, but it will never happen.

MENSAN's avatar

@pdworkin: If you think Albany is corrupt, you’ve never heard of Louisiana politics, have you? They INVENTED political corruption and have refined it into an art form. It is as tainted as the Mexican Federalés, and their renowned bribe-taking from motorists.

janbb's avatar

@MENSAN Louisiana does have a long and glorious history of corruption, but in sheer dyfunctionality and childishness, New York’s recent actions take the cake, IMHO. And I’m fron New Jersey, which is no stranger to corruption either.

dpworkin's avatar

I’ve watched Louisiana politics over the years. I love Louisiana, and travel there often. That’s just regular old corruption, not Machine Politics like we have in New York, where things are decided by 3 guys in a room. Not that I’d trade you for Jindal, or Landrieu, but that’s just because I think they are assholes.

MENSAN's avatar

I’m just glad that the days of Huey “The Kingfish” Long are over in the “Sportsman’s Paradise,” but when I saw KKK leader DAVID DUKE get elected into the Louisiana House of Representatives from the 81st district (as a Republican, of course), I knew that politics in LA had sunk as low as it could possibly go. If he had HIS way, every non-white and non-Christian human on the face of the Earth would be exterminated.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_Long

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_duke

dpworkin's avatar

Huey Long, despite his fundamental criminality, was at least a populist, and was never a bigot. He had a lot of support in the Black community, and never had a racist bone in his body. FDR and his staff were terrified that Long was going to run for president, and were relieved at his assassination, because he had a lot of appeal to the common man.

CyanoticWasp's avatar

I don’t know of many that I would like to keep, other than Ron Paul (and I’m not even from Texas) and Joe Lieberman (and him only because he’s been almost single-handedly blocking the stupid ‘public option’ from the ongoing health care ‘debate’).

dpworkin's avatar

Personally I’d like to see Joe Lieberman severely punished for representing Aetna instead of his own constituents. The Public Option is the only way to keep the supernumerary Health Insurance companies from maintaining their monopolistic advantage. Follow the money. They own Lieberman, and Lieberman then votes against the interests of the people he supposedly represents.

If you are against the Public Option, you are either in the pay of Big Health, or you are woefully underinformed.

gailcalled's avatar

@aprilsimnel: Joe Bruno finally took it on the chops; he was found guilty of only two counts of corruption, I know, but it’s a start.

proXXi's avatar

Joe Leiberman is only one step away form having my complete respect. That step is joining the Republican Party.

Berserker's avatar

They should all be removed and replaced by me.

woodcutter's avatar

Barney Frank. He saw the whole housing shitstorm coming and fought to do nothing about it. It’s called trickle down shitstorming. There are others involved, mostly those who believed poor people deserve a home of their own even if they can’t afford it. This mess was sooooo preventable.

dpworkin's avatar

Wait. You blame Barney Frank for Bush’s housing policies? That’s so interesting. Do you blame Switzerland for World War II?

proXXi's avatar

Barney Frank, Yes! LOLOLOLOL

Seriously, the housing crisis has been decades in the making (Congress’ repeated interference in the housing loan natural order of things in the name of “fairness”).

Whether it’s home loans or health care, If the government tries to step in to make everyone win you can be sure of one result. Everyone loses.

woodcutter's avatar

Bush I thought was trying to bring attention to the whole freddy mac, etc, and got nowhere to do much about it. And wasnt it Clinton who got this lending deal going to get more poor people in homes? There hearts were in the right place but if you can’t afford a house , you cant afford a house. And yes Frank was pretty outspoken about these lenders and was in favor of letting well enough alone. It bit us all in the ass.Like I said he wasn’t the only one to blame but he is the one who came to mind right now.

Dr_Dredd's avatar

@aprilsimnel: I totally agree. Each day they seem to hit a new low.

dpworkin's avatar

I think you have misunderstood the nature of the housing bubble. It was the Bush administration’s focus on deregulation that led banks to offer sub-prime mortgages at extravagant terms, and then resell them to be “securitized” and bundled as derivatives. It was greed in the banking and financial communities that caused the housing crisis, not offering better terms to less advantaged people.

woodcutter's avatar

so you dont agree that Frank was about leaving fredy mac to their devices? massive forecloses didn’t help the situation. Sure the bankers screwed the pooch too but they aren’t the politicians I thought the spirit of the questioner was referring to. I know on these sites it is a big no no to knock gays or minorities of any kind, even when they have it coming but you have to admit that Frank did have his part in this disaster. C’mon.

dpworkin's avatar

I admit no such thing, and it has nothing to do with his sexual orientation. He is one of the most intelligent people in Congress, and is not known for supporting idiotic policies. You could look it up. You don’t have to take it on faith from me. Try to find a neutral source, instead of, say, Fox News or some wing-nut web site.

woodcutter's avatar

Do you think CNN is a right wing tabloid? Because that’s where I first saw people discussing the matter. I don’t watch FOX OR MSNBC because they are the most biased entertainment orgs on TV, ever. People who watch those are the ones who want their news to reflect their beliefs. This is so ironic that Frank with his “savior of the little guy“had a part in fucking him straight up the ass, but not just his supporters but a lot of “non little guys” too. It was a clean sweep but of course millionaires like him didn’t feel any pain. Frank is a pompous asshole and should be tossed out on that alone.

filmfann's avatar

While Barney Frank comes across as a charicature or a buffoon, he is actually quite intelligent. Bush, I am convinced, is mildly retarded. The housing crash is on Bush’s watch, and was his error.

dpworkin's avatar

@woodcutter Obviously you have some personal animus against Barney Frank. That makes you a less credible source, not a more credible source. You are not likely to change many hearts or minds on the basis of personal bias.

woodcutter's avatar

@pdworkin Its not that he’s any worse than others its that he plays the part of MR super intelligent pompous ass blasting other people when he pulled a huge boner of not wanting to do anything about freddie mac et al He’s in it up to his eyeballs while wagging his finger at others trying to cover up his goof. I said nothing about his intelligence. It is NOT obvious that I have any personal animus against anyone. Your threshold for judging people that way seems really low. I disagree with you and that becomes the basis for your assessment? That was not part of the question I was answering. Frank is a hypocrite. I know it can be hard when you see somebody making sport of someone you like or support but I was answering the question and was brave enough to point out a folly of someone other than the usual right wing targets. It’s not easy being independent you catch shit from both extremes. But that’s what we do, we independents.

dpworkin's avatar

Following is a quotation from your previous post:
Frank is a pompous asshole

That led me to think you had less than full admiration for him. Glad I misunderstood.

woodcutter's avatar

@pdworkin Well my definition of a pompous asshole is one who places himself over others as if they can do no wrong, know it alls. Only he did have some culpability in this matter while throwing barbs at others who were no doubt just as culpable. But he has not to my knowledge, admitted such involvement. But that could also be typical intellectual stubbornness or perhaps even pride so as not to cause his constituents to lose faith in him next election. Someone who claims to have the answers like him should have owned up to his part in it. Yes Bush is an idiot but we all know what to expect. Someone like Frank who seems to not be an idiot shouldn’t have sleazed away from owning his share of the disaster. At least Bush took the blame for the Katrina rescue debacle.

TexasDude's avatar

All of them. Democrats, Republicans, Liberals, Conservatives, whatever. 99.9% of them are corrupt and don’t give two shiny shits about us peons. Anyone who thinks politicians truly care about their constituents is fooling themselves.

stormy's avatar

We can start by giving Obama the boot.

dpworkin's avatar

Right. Blame Obama. The only thoughtful pol in office.

woodcutter's avatar

@stormy don’t worry, BHO is a one termer anyway

Mandomike's avatar

Barack Husein Obama

dpworkin's avatar

Yeah, GA. So reasonable. You disagree with him, so he should lose his office.

Mandomike's avatar

@pdworkin ,Evidently I’m not the only one his poll numbers have been caving ever since he was elected.

proXXi's avatar

Before he was elected Obama swore to “fundamentally change” America, his words!!!

If I’m mostly pleased with my country, why on earth would I want him in office??

dpworkin's avatar

Um, he won the election. Here in America it is traditional for us all now to support the president. Remember when the Democrats voted to fund Bush’s supernumerary war in Iraq?

proXXi's avatar

I respect the office of the President. I repect Obama as a human being.

But I respect my country and it’s citizens far to much to be in agreement with Obama’s full on push to dismantle America’s capitalism and conservatism harder than we’ve seen since FDR.

Mandomike's avatar

@pdworkin ,That funding was because 3000 people died on 9–11 that really doesn’t count as traditional support.Other than that Democrats opposed him every step of the way.

proXXi's avatar

So sad that it takes a tragedy of that magnitude to get liberals to (temporarily) come to their senses.

CyanoticWasp's avatar

@Mandomike, I’m no fan of Obama, but Bush didn’t deserve support for an “optional” war in Iraq. That was perhaps the biggest single blunder that any President has made in over 200 years. (I’m trying to be charitable in calling it a “blunder”; I have tried mightily to believe that Bush didn’t deliberately manipulate the phony data on which this thing was based—“order to be manipulated”; I know he didn’t do it all himself—and I don’t believe that Colin Powell was a willing party to any deliberate deception.)

Other than that, Democrats oppose Republicans; Republicans oppose Democrats. That’s the beauty of our government, to the extent that there is any beauty there. It’s when the parties agree that we’re in real trouble.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

IMHO, all of them. But that wouldn’t be very practical.

For all practical purposes, there is only one political party in the United States and it has no interest in representing the people.

Our democracy has all but been stolen from us. Our elected representatives work for the interests of corporations that fund their campaigns and not for the citizens that elected them to office.

We cannot have a democracy by the people and for the people with a mainstream press that spews infotainment in lieu of investigative reporting, a Washington lobbying structure that is weighted thoroughly on the side of the corporatocracy, and election campaign financing that converts perfectly good candidates into whores of the oligarchy.

Add to this an inefficient educational system that no longer teaches critical thinking, guaranteeing somnolent constituencies unequipped to derive fact from fallacy.

Change those things and we may get our democracy back.

As to the present economic crisis:

It was quite evident to many people five years ago by the way banks and the daisy chain of the ancillary service industry were trading, insuring, and inflating bad paper, that there was a collapse coming. The Fed was finding newer and more creative ways to increase the money supply by loosening credit in an environment that was already bankrupt.

Banking regulations put in place 70 years ago to prevent the conditions that led directly to the depression of the 1930s had been removed, e.g., repeal of Glass-Stegall, the removal of capitalization rules, etc. Congressional oversight committees had been neutered. The SEC were essentially inactive except for a few high profile actions like the Martha Stewart case that had no connection to the systemic corruption that was taking place directly under their noses.

The common household investor, through IRAs, heavy dumps into mutual funds, and through enormous corporate employee retirement plans, had transferred 80% of the capital on Wall Street into the hands of a few managers presenting the possibility for manipulation. The individual investor had given his nest egg over to institutional trading while burying himself into household debt. We were conducting two wars that were draining our treasury while we were barely able to pay the interest on our national debt, much less ever paying down the principal, making future payments dependent upon future taxation and the desperate sale of US Treasury bonds to foreign governments with opposing ideologies such as China.

Obfuscation abounded. The media was one big smiley face through it all and the average mensch continued to be taken—in droves to the slaughter. The government had stopped reporting critical data on the money supply which skewed their reports. Respected institutions like Moody’s had changed their rating criteria for reporting the quality of stocks to make the bad look better and suck in more suckers, but the indicators were there and economists such as Paul Krugman were not only ignored, they were vilified in the media.

So, it was no surprise that things really began to fall apart in the summer of ‘08. It was also no surprise when the Federal Reserve came begging to congress for a bailout to the tune of 7 trillion dollars the following September. It was a surprise, however, when the Bush administration—supposedly good Republican fiscal conservatives all—didn’t veto the Bailout Bill because it was such a bad idea. Even more surprising was that the architects of this debacle were not immediately replaced, but given the task—and free access to America’s treasury—of being the architects of the solution. But, if you look at who stands to profit from the fallout and re-set, it becomes glaringly apparent why they let it go through.

So the stage was set for disaster. Whoever took the presidency after this last set of crazies was going to inherit an economic debacle not seen since 1929.

Obama has moved top former Wall Street lobbyists and Wall Street investment Bank executives from the institutions that perpetrated the present economic fiasco, including the former Director of the Federal Reserve Bank of NYC into key policy and executive federal government positions. The new Treasury Secretary is the former head of Goldman Sachs, as was his predecessor. A few weeks ago, Obama decided to let Ben Bernanke continue as head of the Federal Reserve.

The bailouts continue as they did under Bush, the wars continue as they did under Bush, the no-bid contracts that have been draining the war chest continue as they did under Bush. Renditions, although there are motions to have them stopped, have not been stopped. Obama has penned support for the unwarranted surveillance of American citizens under FISA and supports the continuation of the Patriot Act—just like Bush.

CyanoticWasp's avatar

@Espiritus_Corvus, I’m proud to award that the first of what should be many GAs. I have nothing to add here.

Mandomike's avatar

@CyanoticWasp ,I didn’t mean to sugguest that the Iraq was the right thing to do but 9–11 was the only reason he got the support he did.

CyanoticWasp's avatar

@Mandomike, okay, I’ll buy that. But considering how close the 2000 election was (never closer in our history, in other words), I fully expected (hoped for) total gridlock during his Presidency. The support he got was proof of what I’ve always said: When the Executive and Congress and both parties in Congress are in agreement, then we’re in big trouble. (And we were in big trouble because of their agreement, not because of 9/11, awful as that was.)

Mandomike's avatar

@CyanoticWasp Kind of like right now!

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