How to measure the true of a man?

this is just a penis measuring contest if it is how many women a guy can sleep with.

@Haleth you beat me to it.

but I just go with the responsibility part of this scenario

Wow, someone has a really twisted sense of what a man is. The first example sounds more like a kid to me. just because you can have sex doesn’t make you a man. Being responsible, having your own life, and especially helping your parents makes you a man. The other option just sounds like a loser to me. Working hard doesn’t make you a sucker, working hard makes you responsible.

“If there be any truer measure of a man than by what he does, it must be by what he gives.”

Men are measured by their character, their integrity, personal responsibility and their unselfishness. And, by unselfishness, I don’t mean sharing his penis.

You’re not being very impartial on this, are you? The way you phrase the question basically leaves only one option.
Not that I disagree.

I say what makes a man is the courage to do what his conscience tells him even when that’s difficult, scary or inconvenient; the strength not to give in to his own weakness. Integrity.

“You are what you do when it counts.” – Anonymous

I suppose this is closely related to responsibility.

It really all depends on your point of view. I understand what you are saying but actually man number two is the traditionally accepted version of how a man should be.
Man number 1 (the couch potato whore) is only told he is awesome by the following people. And that is by other couch potatos who are not so lucky with the women and man number two who has a miserable marriage, and by females with really low self esteem.
Man number 2 (the hard working, responsible guy) is told he is less than a man if he is a go getter by man number1 and pals because they wish to feel superior in some way so they flaunt their failures as if they won some prize. Oh, look at me I don’t work and I have all the time in the world to have sex because of it and my mommy still pays my bills or my girlfriend does. However they are a bottomless pit of low self esteem and that is why some are abusive and try to control the little they have.
Man number 2 will is also called greedy because he is usually to smart and can see a leech approaching a mile away. I know a man like man number 1, he is married and screws around and depends on family to help support him and his family. The only reason people do is because they don’t want to see his children in the street. He constantly is risking his childrens well being by making them feel insecure about their future. He claims he is a good dad and provider but everyone knows hes a lazy bum, a horrible father and husband. This by no means will ever be the defintion of a man. Even a boy has more sense. Even a leech has some redeeming qualitys. This type of person does not.

Sorry – but this is really a question?

Though my perspectives on (what appears to be) the increasingly archaic concept of a “man” are rather poorly developed there is something my Father once told me which I feel is a reasonably apt answer to your question,
“A man is someone who prioritises everything he loves before himself”

The same way as one would measure for a woman, if. **smiles**

@Fyrius Lets just say it was loosly based on 2 known individuals, so the facts are as they are. ;-)

I thought you learnt the first time after your slut question.