Are we really in need of a sequel?

Serenity koff koff
The song Cat’s In The Cradle- I want a sequel where the cycle breaks and heals itself.

Do you remember the story of the lady and the tiger? I think it is a left over in my brain from grade school. Anyhow I still ponder the question. It is definitely time for closure on that one!

@gemiwing – qa, that’s a good one.
and of course a gq to the zen man

If you really pay attention to the lyrics the last few sentences just makes you go, “ewww”

A very few sequals are really really worth it (The Godfather II) but most are just motivated by greed rather than creativity.

Do we really need Rocky 9 or Rambo 13?

sequels to songs – what a great idea! I wonder if it’s been done before (other than Karn Evil 9, part2 i.e.), and if you would have to get permission from the original songwriter to do it.

Though I’ve heard Quentin Tarantino has thrown around the idea of a prequel to Pulp Fiction revolving around Vincent Vega (John Travolta) and his brothers, I think a sequel around the newly transformed Jules (Samuel L. Jackson) would be a great idea. See how he transforms into a less violent, more spiritual man, only to be drawn back into his old ways. I wouldn’t deem myself worthy to write it however.

I’ll take s’more PF, pre or seq!

@rooeytoo Thanks!
@dalepetrie How about a prequel about Brad? Remember: Check out the brains on Brad? He seemed like an interesting character and not someone you’d think would get involved with smuggling. Was he a student? Was he just a baby-faced drug smuggler?

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@Zen_Again – Interesting question. Actually, bit of trivia for you, the character was named “Brett”, and there’s some controversy as to whether the actor made a mistake, or if the character made an intentional mistake, or if the character actually said Brett but slurred it a bit and it just sounded like Brad. I do think you could have a good story about that character and of course Marvin (before his unexpected end). Or the Wolf, or Tarantino’s character for that matter. Really there are a lot of unexplored personalities, Butch the Boxer, Marcellus Wallace. I think it would be interesting to explore the connections of these other characters that have nothing to do with the characters in Pulp Fiction, at another point (past or future…if possible) in their lives. One could do a lot with it, but then again, I think Quentin has the right idea by exploring other genres. I have for example never been into martial arts films or war movies, but the 2 Kill Bill films and Inglorious Basterds just transcended their genres. I suspect he could make a Hello Kitty movie interesting.

@dalepetrie Marcellus Wallace could be a helluva film!

True dat!

@dalepetrie I love Ving as an actor.I’d watch him sing in a shower naked. Oh waitaminit – he did that already. ;-)

Agreed. Just check out his IMDB profile, he’s got 70+ credited projects SINCE Pulp Fiction, truly the hardest working man in show business. Of course, even though he had very little screen time in PF, his role was so powerful, now whenever I see him in a movie, I’m like, ‘look, t’s iMarcellus Wallace.’

I think he’s a genius.

There are some actors who I watch, like Seymour Hoffman, and I think to myself; you looked in the mirror – you saw at the very least unconventional looks, actually, you dog-butt-ugly – yet still went to acting school, lined up for auditions, took the little hotdog-vendor roles in b movies – til the big break. When people could see the skill and not look so skin-deep. Amazing. For every Tom Brad and Johnny, I salute the ugly ones who had the tenacity, the courage the je ne sais quoi to pursue their dreams, and ultimately, make cinema a better place for us regular joe theatre-goers.

I have seen the dvd of Inglorious Basterds pass through here but paid no attention to it. Now I am getting the idea I should watch it?

I feel as if dalepetrie is my mentor, I have a reading list and now a movie list waiting for me!

Couldn’t agree more about Phillip Seymour Hoffman. I became a big fan via watching PT Anderson films, probably the only auteur/writer/director who impresses me more than Tarantino. I kind of wish Nicolas Cage had gone more the Hoffman route, his early work showed promise, he was in some really great movies, then next thing you know all he does is brainless action pics. I think Doubt was one of my favorite movies of ‘08. And if you haven’t seen it, you HAVE to check out a movie he made 10+ years ago called Happiness, perhaps his best work, but very, very dark and disturbing.

@rooyetoo – Thanks…I’ve never been a “mentor” to anyone before. Yes, by all means check out Inglorious Basterds. It’s the closest thing Tarantino has ever done to Pulp Fiction, just the opening scene is worth the price of admission.

Doubt was a spell binder. But what did you think at the end, was he a pedophile or simply a very caring man?

@dalepetrie and @rooeytoo can listen, too (hey, that rhymes!):

I agree about Nic but remember the odds were stacked against him, being Scorcese’s nephew. He initially hid it well, but he was a bit nutsoid anyway, eh? I mean, marrying Elvis’ daughter for 5 minutes to add to his collection of Elvis stuff? That’s gonna get you on the shit list iof serious directors and movie-goers. It’s hard to totally ignore the rags – and there’s a direct impact and influence on the screen. I dunno. After face/off and that SEan Connery jail movie I lost my appetite. In the case of face/off – literally.

I think he is too pretty anyway, and falls into the formentioned Brad/Tom category, not the Hoffman one. He can always sit back and be lazy, stupid action flicks falling at his feet – resting on the laurels of Leaving Las Vegas? It was overrated in my opinion anyway.

@rooeytoo – I was leaning towards not a pedophile, but movies with ambiguous endings, I kind of feel like that’s a gift from the writer, you’re not supposed to know, I mean the film after all was called “Doubt”. I actually prefer movies where all the loose ends aren’t neatly tied up, it’s more like real life.

@Zen_Again – I think you’re dead on there about Cage, on every point. It is hard to think of the guy in Raising Arizona and the guy in National Treasure as one in the same, isn’t it? Though I will say, Brad Pitt, despite being way too pretty, is a VERY good actor and does choose some very good roles from time to time….as much as I want to dislike him, I see him act and I just can’t. Tom Cruise is a completely batshit crazy whack job who won’t come out of the closet because he doesn’t want to get kicked out of his church and everything he does is to “prove” how manly he is. But I have to say, his performance in Magnolia impressed the hell out of me, didn’t think he had it in him.

@dalepetrie @rooeytoo Haven’t seen Doubt, not ignoring you.

Actually, I shamefully enjoyed Tom in a few movies; Minority Report was under-rated imho, and he was very moving in Mission Impossible ~.

Brad is a fine actor, period. I am jealous of his talent only slightly less than I am in his choice of women. Jen being the better choice, but that’s another thread.

I loved him especialy in Fight Club, opposite the subtle, quiet, respectful and respect-demanding performance of Norton. Actually, I can’t think of a bad Brad flick.

But I still insist it is a different league of actors when you smile and the women melt, as opposed to the grunts like Hoffman, Beatty (Ned) and other (former, or forever doomed to play) but impossibly talented character actors.

Sounds like you and I should put together a film festival! We seem to be on the same page on everything.

Start a thread – I’m out for the next 24. We’ll co-host a fluther virtua-film festival where everyone’s a critic. Waitaminit – that’s already every thread about movies. Oh well.

:-)