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Is monogomy a fundamentally flawed concept?

Asked by ucme (50047points) December 18th, 2009

I know a lot of us myself included, enjoy a relationship that we hope will last for life. However it does strike me as something that is against human nature. As we know a great many relationships break down over infidelities. Despite both parties professing undying love for each other. While others who remain single perhaps fear commitment.

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tuesday242's avatar

yes i think it is… i dont think its a human state, who was it that said :
“if you want monogomy you should of married a swan” ?

Are we not programmed to look for prince charming to keep society quiet, if we were encouraged to go out and do what we wanted wouldnt society break down. surely its for the greater good that we may ‘bonk’ our neighbour , but we will try not to get caught…. unless we are in a soap opera then the “drama“can drag on for weeks!

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

Absolutely. Read “A Stranger in a Strange Land” by Robert Heinlein.

doesnotmakesenseatall's avatar

Love does not fade, it simply changes its shades. As long as the two people involved understand each others ‘art’, love will be a rainbow, forever.

It is human nature to get ‘distracted’ but it is nothing but just that, distraction. Heart returns to Love, definitely. I have had only a single man in my life, since, forever. Though there were and are times when we both have our differences in small and big things, we get over them and are together, again. There might come a day when either of us might not feel the same **God forbid**, but until that day, he will be the only one for me, and same for him. Being true to the person you love (for that time) is what I believe being monogamous is, or not? **smiles**

DarlingRhadamanthus's avatar

Apparently to Tiger Woods..it most definitely is.

Gosh, I wish he were in the Fluther….to ask an expert.

dpworkin's avatar

Monogamy isn’t a concept, it is a mating strategy, and it is one among many. It is thought to have been the most adaptive, which is the reason it lasted, and it is thought that extra pair copulations also have an adaptive function which is why they continue.

ucme's avatar

@pdworkin Extra pair copulations sounds so romantic.

dpworkin's avatar

They are functional, not romantic. Romance is merely an overlay on evolved practice.

Blackberry's avatar

It sure is. We are kidding ourselves, especially at a young age, if we think we are supposed to be with one person out of over 6 billion for the rest of our lives.

lonelydragon's avatar

pdworkin hit the nail on the head. Monogamy is a frequently used mating strategy because it’s beneficial for both sexes. If a couple is monogamous, then the woman can be assured that her mate won’t divert his resources towards caring for another woman and her children, and the man can enjoy paternity certainty for any children that his mate has. So I wouldn’t say monogamy is a flawed concept, because it has its uses, but it is not a good fit for everyone.

nikipedia's avatar

I wouldn’t call it flawed as a concept—it’s great, in theory. I’d call it a mostly-doomed practice. As a species, we don’t seem to be very good at it. And I don’t see any real advantages to it either.

dpworkin's avatar

@nikipedia Then why is it so highly selected for? You are a scientist, use your head.

UScitizen's avatar

No, it’s just not for everybody.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

Well I don’t think a concept should be declared ‘fundamentally flawed’ just because many can’t manage it…I am in an open marriage but generally speaking, for long periods of time, we are only with each other…if an opportunity to sleep with someone comes along, it is discussed, accepted or denied…but that’s now what our relationship revolves around…

nikipedia's avatar

@pdworkin: I don’t think it is highly selected for it. It is relatively rare in the animal kingdom—monogamy is more the exception than the rule. And as you pointed out above, EPCs are unnervingly frequent even among species that are ostensibly monogamous, suggesting that true monogamy is not in fact selected for, but the appearance of monogamy is.

dpworkin's avatar

It is not rare among sexually dimorphic species.

daemonelson's avatar

Monogamous species tend to die out.

It’s probably best, despite even my own feelings on the topic, that we’re so bad at being monogamous.

mattbrowne's avatar

There are two male evolutionary strategies for passing on their genes.

1) Have sex with as many healthy women as possible being always on the move.

2) Have sex with one healthy woman and make sure that as many children as possible from this relationship grow up to have sex themselves.

Some men are implementing strategy 1, but the majority goes with strategy 2.

It’s not a flaw. It’s a success story.

dpworkin's avatar

There are many more than two, but yes, if it weren’t adaptive we wouldn’t see it.

fundevogel's avatar

First off, monogamy doesn’t mean one person forever and ever. It means one person at a time. In terms of relationships (as opposed to casual encounters) most people seem to have more success maintaining a relationship with monogamy.

I personally don’t have any issues with those that aren’t interested in monogamy, but it is something that matters to me. I have no illusions about the overwhelmingly temporary condition marriage seems to be. As such I’ve been putting a lot of though into what I would want in a long term marriage type relationship. I’m assuming that different people and different lives would merit different marriage-type solutions (assuming they want a marriage-type solution).

So far this is what I think would work best for me.

I would not want a traditional marriage, nor do I think it is necessary for the sort of life plans I have. For one I’m not going to have kids so the legal apparatus of marriage as it relates to kids is irrelevant, as is the need for a stable family environment. For another as an atheist I have zero interest in making any major commitments in a form that kowtows to god or religion.

Secondly I don’t think marriage is sacred or insoluable. On an ideaological level I don’t see anything as sacred. Things can be wonderful and magnificent. But, possessing some unearthly, and inherently divine justification? No. Look around, people get divorces as often as they get married, clearly marriage is an earthly thing subject to earthly complications.

At this point I think the closet thing to the sort of marriage I would like is a “companionate marriage”. The idea was introduced in the 1920’s a form of trial marriage. The country was undergoing a sexual revolution under the damning eye of the Victorian generation and the companionate marriage attempted to bridge the gap between modern sexual relationships and traditional values. The younger generation was embracing sexuality and sexual relations, but because of their inevitable lack of money most had to put off marriage until their thirties. A progressive judge, Ben B. Lindsey, saw that delaying sexual relationships until a later marriage was both unreasonable and unhealthy. To allow younger adults a social institution in which they could have serious sexual relations without social damnation he proposed companionate marriage.

There were just three basic things that differentiated companionate marriage from traditional marriage. The first was that the couple would use birth control and remain childless. This allowed the other two differences to happen with out complication. The marriage was not legally binding. The two could agree to part ways without issue and in parting ways there would be no continued financial obligation to each other. If so desired the companionate couple could transform their marriage into a traditional marriage when they wanted.

To me that seems just about right. It addresses human sexual relationships realistically while maintaining a concept of marriage close enough to the norm (or at least the practice) to offer the basic meaning of a marriage commitment. And hopefully it won’t overly confuse everyone else. I don’t see any reason why this should just be considered a trial marriage, nor why it would need to transform into traditional marriage.

For the sake of adapting it to the American legal system if I do go the companionate route I might go ahead and make it legal, for the legal benefits of marriage. And people would be less confused at the wedding. However I would be sure that the vows and prenups formed a companionate marriage, not a traditional marriage.

So is monogamy a flawed structure? As others have already stated, it’s a strategy. Is traditional marriage a flawed system? I believe that it is, but I also think that the companionate marriage resolves the worst of its flaws while preserving the aspects I find most important. Of course it isn’t an option for folks that want kids so they’ll have to keep looking.

Alrook's avatar

Not really flawed, nor are any other forms of acquiring mate(s) (under the assumption that it is not against any parties wishes…). I suppose, though, that if a person didn’t like any strategies, you could hope that you are asexual…and simply eat so much that you sorta just…split in two…

mattbrowne's avatar

@pdworkin – Good point. Maybe I should have written “at least two”. Vasopressin and oxytocin hormonal bonding might also play a key role when trying to explain monogamy.

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