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Vunessuh's avatar

How do you feel about jellies who ask numerous amounts of questions, but never once acknowledge anybody who answers them or give you a GA?

Asked by Vunessuh (16727points) December 20th, 2009

Well, how do you feel about them?
Go on and tell me. :)

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smashbox's avatar

People have heard this before, so it bears repeating…
When someone annoys me it takes 42 muscles in my face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend my arm and bitch-slap that that thoughtless AH upside the head. I wish, I could reach through the computer screen and slap them.

That is pretty much how I feel when I don’t get any lurve, for answering a question, especially when it was on topic, sensible, and factual.

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Nah, it don’t really bother me, my family and pets lurve me all the time. That’s all the lurve I need!

Fernspider's avatar

a) What qualifies as an acknowledgement?
b) How do you know who has given you a GA?

Vunessuh's avatar

@smashbox Awesome. Thanks Smashbox.
@Rachienz A lot of times I look through questions and most if not all of the people who have answered have no GA’s. Not on fresh questions either. Questions that were asked a while ago.
I notice this in several particular jellies. Ask questions all the time but never comment.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

I don’t think people must ask questions and provide comments – there are different ways to fluther.

elizabethmae's avatar

I am not that familiar with this site as I just joined moments ago but I joined because I like the idea (even though I’ve seen similar sites) and the jelly fish logo was cute. I did not join because I wanted to increase a score or something that appears by my name. I mean, it’s nice to feel appreciated but I think it’s silly to expect much.

Vunessuh's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir Indeed. I’m not complaining. Just asking what people think.
@elizabethmae You make a good point. Thank you.

ccrow's avatar

It seems like there was a different ‘system’ on AB; it seems like you gave each other points a lot more than people generally do here on Fluther.

Vunessuh's avatar

@ccrow People did seem more generous on AB. We’ve carried that generousity over here. Well, some of us have.

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

It means they are new and probably don’t even think to click the great answer link.

PandoraBoxx's avatar

Not every question is a good question, and not every answer is a good answer. Sometimes an ordinary question gets ordinary answers.

Judi's avatar

@elizabethmae ; Welcome to fluther!

Vunessuh's avatar

@Kelly_Obrien True for some. I have others in mind that are definitely not new.
@PandoraBoxx Very true, but like smashbox said, you have answers that are on topic and they are sensible, factual and helpful…
You have askers, who ask lots of questions a day never acknowledging anyone who EVER answers them, whether helpful answers or not.
Just an observation I have made since being here.

loser's avatar

Why should I care what someone else does as long as nobody is getting hurt? I just worry about what I do.

lillycoyote's avatar

How would you know who it is that does or doesn’t give you a great answer? Is there a way to tell? But in the end, I don’t really care. People can do whatever they want here as far as I’m concerned.

Vunessuh's avatar

@lillycoyote As I stated above, I run across threads often where everyone has 0.
Again, it’s just an observation.
Thanks for answering.

ccrow's avatar

I give GA’s to answers that are thoughtful & helpful, or that make me laugh.

Vunessuh's avatar

@ccrow Of course. Makes sense. Thanks.

J0E's avatar

Well, we have a limit on the ammount of lurve we can give a user. So it’s wise to use it sparingly or you’ll run out of it.

Vunessuh's avatar

@J0E What is this limit you speak of?

J0E's avatar

I’m not positive, but I think we can give each user 100 lurve.

Vunessuh's avatar

@J0E 100 lurve for literally the remainder of being on the site?

Judi's avatar

Yep. You max out on how much lurve you can give each user. You can continue to give them Great Answers, but it won’t add to their total Lurve score. That’s why the first 1000 or so come pretty quick, then it slows down substantially. It’s also why I like the new influx of jellies. More people to lurve me!

J0E's avatar

Yeah, that kinda sucks because think of the people who have been on here for a few years. There should be a yearly or monthly limit.

Vunessuh's avatar

So it is true. Thanks Judi and J0E.
@J0E I was just getting ready to say that. 100 seems way to low.

Judi's avatar

It’s OK. It makes us think about our answers and not ignore newcomers. It’s a good thing.

Vunessuh's avatar

Well, where I came from, we had a weekly limit.
We all gave pretty generously if we think the answer/question deserved it of course.
It’s a little hard to break that habit, but I guess if 100 is the limit, I should.

Judi's avatar

You can still give great answers, just know that after 100, it won’t increase their score. Most people are not here for the lurve. It’s the community that keeps us here.

Vunessuh's avatar

Agreed, but the option is there to use. There shouldn’t be a limit.
And I don’t want to turn this into me complaining about it.
I was just curious about a few things.

sjmc1989's avatar

I do think that that the users that came from AB are very good about PMing <————(is that the proper way to say it…oh well) people about their answers it is a very nice gesture, but I don’t expect anything from anybody. I am happy about the amount of lurve I get on here already. It is a great compliment to get a GA so I’m glad people don’t waste it all the time.

Darwin's avatar

Sometimes I wonder if the asker ever read my wonderfully crafted and erudite answer, but on the other hand, life is too short.

Vunessuh's avatar

@Darwin Well, I read it and it was indeed wonderfully crafted and erudite.

Darwin's avatar

Well, there yah go, then.

TominLasVegas's avatar

it makes me want to commit armed robbery

Vunessuh's avatar

@TominLasVegas Well, shit then! Have five points!

wundayatta's avatar

Lurve is a many-splendored thing, but it is not something that it is cool to bitch about. People give it out as they see fit to give it out. Some of us choose to save it for really good answers, and others shoot their wad, so to speak, for any answer at all.

In any case, it’s not about the lurve or the awards. It’s about building a community and forming relationships with people you appreciate. There are people here who change their fluther identities when they reach a certain level of lurve—because they want to make it clear that lurve is not of interest to them.

We have a different culture from AB, apparently. We take great care to preserve civility and sensibility. We don’t want nonsense here. We don’t want questions where you can’t really tell what the questioner is after. We don’t want random silly questions, or questions that are there just for the sake of being there. We don’t want ambiguous and poorly worded questions, even if they are par for the course. No. That’s Michael Feldman. But hey, no one said you can’t borrow a good line when it fits the situation.

I tend to put a great deal of thought (ok, maybe not a great deal, but some) into my questions. Sometimes I see them as a service to the community when it seems like we are getting a lot of the same old questions. I do this because I think we would all rather have an interesting discussion or learn a variety of new things about our fellow jellies than to sit around playing Tiddly Winks with words.

When I ask a question, I often just let it go, just to see what people have to say. I figure that if I say something, it’s likely to stop things. I’ll give out lurve for answers that I think are particularly apt. But I’m not expecting people to be answering for lurve. I want them to answer because they are interested. For me, lurve is irrelevant silliness. I’ve been on websites where people got serious about points, and they were just awful! I will not stand by idly if people try to turn this place into something like Askville! [SHUDDER]

Vunessuh's avatar

@daloon That’s beautifully articlated.
I do beg to differ that AB doesn’t preserve sensibility if that’s at all what you meant.
It was a pretty great community. Not sure about Askville.
My question wasn’t meant to bitch at no lurve.
I do now though have a greater understanding especially considering the fact that you are only allowed 100 for each person.
AB cared a great deal about it’s community and about each individual as well.
The owner’s on the other hand, not so much.
That, fortunately, is the greatest difference between AB and Fluther and I like it.

wundayatta's avatar

@Vunessuh I’m sure AB did/does care a great deal about it’s community. I’m just saying that it’s a different culture. Not having been there, I am not very knowledgeable about that culture. I can only make guesses based on the issues that people from there have with us. It shows the expectations you have, and clearly some of them are not shared here. That’s fine and to be expected.

This is like when a group of Cambodians all gets settled in the same area on the US. There are culture clashes, and there is the age-old issue of whether you should try to preserve your culture and traditions within the context you find yourself, or if you should try to assimilate. On the other side, we have a similar question. Do we want you to become like us, or can we be sensitive and allow you your own cultural habits without getting snippy about it and making you feel unwelcome.

I think there is inevitably some hurt feelings when cultures mesh. All of us will change because of it, and those who are uncomfortable with change will try to resist it. Personally, I think there are some very good reasons why we do things a certain way here. I’ve been through a cultural death on Askville, so I am particularly concerned that fluther does not go very far in that direction. I am very concerned, actually, because of this new award system, which I think is distracting and detrimental to the culture of the place that I like.

Similarly, paying much attention to lurve is one of those things that happened at Askville. It lead to some awful competitions and some very nasty battles between various sets of people. It became very unpleasant to be there. It was like all the worst aspects of high school The cattiness and concern with such petty issues. I will fight any effort to move this place in that direction. I have failed to stop the awards, but I still care, and am continuing to try to keep this place moving towards sophistication rather than childish nonsense.

Now don’t get me wrong. I am not opposed to nonsense. I love good, sophisticated nonsense. It’s the childish stuff that makes me want to shove a knitting needle up my nose. Don’t you hate when that happens?

Vunessuh's avatar

I do indeed hate it when I want to shove a knitting needle up my nose.
I completely understand everything you are expressing. Especially about how important it is for it to feel like a community/family and not a competiton. Your answers were exactly what I was looking for in that respect. I learned a lot from them.
I also learned a great deal about some of the rules of Fluther which I knew nothing about before.
How long has the award system been going on?

Oh and to go off the topic of lurve, I was also curious about the members who never acknowledge what goes on in ANY of their threads. I find that odd sometimes. That was more what my question was geared towards

cyn's avatar

[gets ready to load the bazooka]~

wundayatta's avatar

Down girl! Down! We aren’t going after a Hummer, you know.

loser's avatar

@Daloon LOL!

Silhouette's avatar

I don’t care, they can do it their way and I’ll do it mine.

Vunessuh's avatar

Thank you. I do agree. I wasn’t trying to make this a war over points. I could care less. But everybody talks about the fact that the community matters and I wholeheartedly agree, so why do so many ignore people trying to help them with informative and rational answers? There’s not very much acknowledgement in that respect and I don’t mean acknowledgment as in points. That’s what I was curious about. But alas, people can do as they please. Thanks again.

gemiwing's avatar

It depends on my question and why I asked it. If it’s a discussion then I’ll participate. If I just want to hear answers then I GA it and go on with other questions.

GQ’s are harder to get from me. There are few questions I feel are truly special or different than what I’ve seen before. They also have to be very well worded and clear, while giving enough detail to get good answers.

Plus- don’t forget there are PM’s and a lot of people talk on those instead of on the board. So a question that looks forlorn, in fact, may be moving and shaking behind the scenes.

Vunessuh's avatar

@gemiwing Yup. PMing is a good point. Thank you.

Silhouette's avatar

@Vunessuh If you were talking to me, you’re welcome. Whether you were talking to me or not, thanks for the question

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