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Plasma or LCD?

Asked by Dr_Dredd (10540points) December 20th, 2009

I’m finally going to join the 21st century and get myself a flat screen TV. (Currently, my only television set is a 21 inch TV from 1994.) I was in Best Buy today, and was overwhelmed by all the choices. I’ll start with my most basic question: should I get a plasma TV or an LCD TV? What are the advantages and disadvantages of each?

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gailcalled's avatar

I have an CRT and a roof antenna from 1986, and a Rube Goldberg converter box from last year. I too was overwhelmed so went home, happily, to my old system. I get the major networks, CBS, four religion channels, three weather channels and wonderful reruns of Maverick, The A-Team, Black and White movies, etc. It’s cheap and entertaining.

ShoulderPadQueen's avatar

we have LCD and i really like it. thats also the only kind ive ever had so its kinda hard to compare. i would get the extended warranty either way i went. ;)

gailcalled's avatar

@pdworkin; Please don’t tell me you get cable down there.

dpworkin's avatar

Not an easy question to answer. LCD seems to have won the battle for widest adoption, once the refresh rate went up to 240Hz, and the contrast ratios got better. Plasma always had the more beautiful picture, but it also had the problem of burn-in and a shorter life.

Now it is a much tougher choice because the burn-in problem is gone, but LCD, especially with the right kind of backlighting can produce as beautiful a picture with as little motion-smearing.

I think if I knew I could afford the very top of the line in either format, I would go with plasma, because now the price-differential actually favors plasma. But in doing so, I would be aware that plasma tech is on the way out, to be replaced by LCD, and maybe, someday, the holy grail of OLED.

dpworkin's avatar

Satellite, my dear. DirecTV.

gailcalled's avatar

@pdworkin: So you get 140 channels of crap and pay extra for the decent ones?

dpworkin's avatar

No, I can’t afford the decent ones. I only get the crap. But I have a Roku box. That helps.

gailcalled's avatar

What’s a Roku box?

Pretty_Lilly's avatar

If you can afford it an LED LCD they are feather light !!
*let see how long before a moderator pulls this question aside for re-editing !!

dpworkin's avatar

It’s a $99 set top that allows you to watch free movies from Netflix, listen to music from Pandora, rent movies overnight from Amazon, and stream a few other things.

Judi's avatar

One of them is not good for high altitude. Where do you live?

HighShaman's avatar

I have a 61” DLP HD Samsung TV….

We stood about 20 feet from all the tvs and decided that this one had THE best picture….

The thing about the others tv’s is that if one or two of the bulbs burn out ; you’ll have black spots on your screen as the bulbs are burned out…

However; with the DLP ; it only has the one bulb and IF it burns out; only $250 to replace .

I’ve had my Tv for about three years and still as good as new… GREAT television… and I have Direct TV conncected to it with the DVR box so I can record porgrams / movies if I can’t watch at the time they are on .

sndfreQ's avatar

@HighShaman: the burnt (or frozen) pixels issue is only experienced with LCD technology, plasma doesn’t suffer from this. Plasmas have come a long way, and in general has much deeper black saturation than LCD, as well as a wider viewing angle. The issues with flicker and motion on LCD technology are far less if you go with 120Hz or higher refresh rate.

I think the thing to also consider in terms of future proofing are: 1080p resolution (1920×1080 full resolution), 120Hz or faster (higher) refresh rate, a contrast ratio of 15,000:1 or higher, and a high viewing angle.

Also you may spend a little bit more for this feature but find out how the tv plays Blu-Ray (if it is 96Khz native resolution for Blu-Ray playback), not many do this yet, but the ones that do you really see a difference when watching action shots on Blu-Ray. That will be the standard for all broadcast within the next 5 years.

Lastly, get the largest sized screen you can afford and can for in the space you are mounting it; you’ll always want to upsize but at least 50” for the average viewing distance of 7–8 feet is recommended. If you’re farther back you may want to go larger.

filmfann's avatar

I just got a 55” LED. Very nice.

Tomfafa's avatar

All good answers. I would go with price because the tech curve is exponential for LCD. And LCD is benefiting from software upgrades… the world is moving away from hardware and towards software. Just like firewire and USB. Of course so is projection… and fast! That is the near future, just wait for it.

phillis's avatar

LCD, definitely. But the incredible sale was on a plasma, so that’s what I bought. A plasma TV gets images burned into the picture if you pause a movie and end up having leave for a couple of hours. After that, it’s ruined permantly. You can’t watch a wide screen movie on one, either, or THAT will screw up the picture. And they don’t last as long as an LCD. The life expectancy is 3–5 years shorter.

Dabria's avatar

I much prefer LCD!

sndfreQ's avatar

@phillis Most if not all plasmas have anti-retention technology built in, such as pixel shifting and screen saver technology. I happen to own a plasma (Panasonic TCP-50V10), and while a bit pricey compared to comparably equipped LCDs, the image quality is superb.

Agreed that plasmas are losing market share, but you have to see the difference in quality in person to appreciate. Same can be said for the high-end flat-panel market-those pricing out over $3K. But alas, price for many trumps quality, and for most, LCD is fine for their needs.

Zen_Again's avatar

I don’t see all that well – but I do enjoy the CRT’s picture better than the Leds and Plasmas so I recently bought a new 21 inch CRT with a great sound system (which is important for me) for the bedroom. It’s great.

Brian1946's avatar

I’ve heard that LCD’s consume a lot less power than plasmas do.

Dr_Dredd's avatar

Thanks, guys. All of this is useful information. I think I need to do a little more research before deciding.

phillis's avatar

@sndfreQ – that was thoughtful! I didn’t know that. I had a LOT to learn before I could buy anything. Part of what I went by were the customer reviews. I didn’t expect professioanl opinions, but if there is anything wrong with a product you’re looking to buy, that’s where you’ll find it. THen I bought a membership to Consumer Reports and looked up plasma TVs there, too. Though other Samsung TVs were mentioned, my particular model had not been tested.

Do you know why it ruins the picture to play a wide screen format movie on them??

dpworkin's avatar

@phillis I don’t think it does, any longer.

Brian1946's avatar

Here’s the Consumer Reports guide to choosing between the two:

“Why buy a plasma TV?

To get more screen for your money

Inch for inch, plasma offers more bang for the buck than an LCD TV, so the same budget can often buy you a bigger screen. 1080p screens might be an exception; plasma sets with “full HD” resolution tend to be priced similarly to LCD models.

To enjoy a movie-theater experience

A good plasma TV’s deep black levels and high contrast can do justice to almost anything you watch, including movies and TV programs with dark scenes. The strong contrast and realistic, accurate colors can result in rich, natural-looking images, especially in dim lighting. Some LCD sets have trouble displaying the same strong, dark blacks as plasma sets. On certain LCD sets, uneven brightness from the backlight can create cloudy areas that can be distracting in dark scenes.

For a wide viewing angle

With a plasma TV, as with the familiar picture-tube set, the images onscreen look the same from almost any angle. That’s a big plus if a TV will be watched by a number of people sitting around a room. It’s a different story with LCD TVs. Most still look their best only from a limited “sweet spot” in front of the screen. Generally, as you move off to the side, the picture quality of an LCD screen degrades, appearing increasingly washed out or dim. Vertical position also matters—say, if you’re sitting on the floor or watching a set that’s mounted above a mantel. Some new LCD TVs have successfully addressed this, and they have a wider viewing angle than the typical set of this type, but few if any maintain off-angle picture quality as well as a plasma.

Why buy an LCD TV?

You have a very bright room

LCDs are generally brighter than plasma TVs, and their screens are generally less reflective. (Some LCD sets have very reflective screens.) That makes them better for daytime viewing in rooms with lots of windows or for nighttime use in rooms with bright lighting. Some plasma TVs can look a bit dim in bright lighting when set to the Normal or Standard mode, which we generally recommend for home use. You can switch to the Vivid mode or raise the brightness control to compensate, but the picture quality might suffer. Another issue with most plasmas is that the glass screens are subject to reflections and glare. If you have the lights on while watching dark scenes, you might see mirror-like reflections on a plasma set.

For heavy use with video games or as a PC monitor

Both types of flat panels can do the job, but with an LCD, there’s no chance static images will burn in. With a plasma TV, burn-in can be a concern with video games, computer programs, and other content that has fixed images onscreen for a long time. That includes station logos, news tickers, menus, even the bars alongside standard-def pictures. Many plasma sets have screen-saver features to minimize risk. This might have been more of a problem with early plasma sets. In our tests, we’ve seen temporary image sticking that goes away in a day or so, but no evidence of permanent image retention. Recent anecdotal evidence from our staff and online forum participants hasn’t turned up any burn-in issues in typical long-term use at home. If you’re a video gamer, try to avoid leaving the game menu on screen for indefinite periods of time.
In some situations, either an LCD or plasma TV should do almost equally well:

For blur-free motion

In general, plasma sets are better than LCD TVs at displaying fast motion with no blurring. In our tests of LCDs with the typical 60Hz refresh rate, we saw blurred edges, smeared details, and problems with detail on the worst performers. Most LCD sets with 120Hz or 240Hz did better than the 60Hz sets, displaying less blur. You might not notice any blur in TV programming with little motion, such as news and talk shows, but it might be apparent in sports, movies, and video games. But if you want to minimize any potential problem, a plasma TV or an LCD set with effective 120Hz or 240Hz technology would be your best bet. Note that the anti-blur feature on LCD sets is sometimes linked to motion smoothing, which can give film-based movies a video effect you might not like. You can switch to 60Hz to restore the film look, but you’ll lose the blur reduction.

For a long, useful life

Another point that needn’t concern you is any difference in longevity between the two technologies. Despite reports you might have read about plasma’s allegedly short life span, LCD and plasma sets should last a good 10 years or more in normal use.

If you want to control your electric bills

Although older plasma TVs used more electricity than LCDs, that’s no longer the case for the new models we’ve seen. Our tests have shown that most LCD and plasma sets of comparable size use about the same amount of power. So this is no longer a reason to shy away from plasma in favor of LCD.

For wall mounting

LCD and plasma panels can be mounted on the wall, but you should attach mounts to wall studs to ensure adequate support. That’s especially important with larger TVs, which can weigh more than 100 pounds.”

phillis's avatar

@Brian1946 and @pdworkin – thanks, you guys. I should have saved the money for Consumer Reports and just came here instead! But I didn’t know you guys at the time :)

Brian1946's avatar

@phillis

You’re welcome for my meager contribution, phillis, but my first answer to the question might be wrong.

Speaking of Consumer Reports, I’m also a subscriber, and I posted their comparative guide in the post just above yours. :)

phillis's avatar

the only thing I didn’t like about buying the online subscription was that they had not reviewed the model I eventually bought. But, Brian, how can you turn down $600 off, especially when you didn’t have ny TV at all? It was a TOUGH decision.

Bobgardenguy's avatar

Hey they are coming out with 3-d tv soon which will make all these you are talking about old news.

Dr_Dredd's avatar

Really? I hadn’t heard that.

Tomfafa's avatar

3D? I think gamers will get that first. They drive a lot of tech!

gailcalled's avatar

@Bobgardenguy: I shudder; Ophrah, Jerry Springer and his ever-charming guests, and other possibilities so abhorrent that I can’t bring myself to mention them.

Bobgardenguy's avatar

Yes,have an add for a3-d ready ty now. Cost a lot

phillis's avatar

Would Oprah fit on the screen? How do they handle 3D fat folks? Or amybe it isn’t a screen. Maybe it’s a platform, like on Star Trek. That is so cool!!

Tomfafa's avatar

@phillis Wow! This is so unlike you. (that oprah crack) Did your brother steal your log in info… Too much egg nog?

phillis's avatar

@Tomfafa – no way! It is exactly in keeping with my sense of humor. I thought everybody knew I was fat as a cow! The only difference between me and Oprah is that I’m not on TV :)
GA, by the way. I like the way you handled that.

Tomfafa's avatar

@phillis I like you phillis, so please don’t talk about yourself that way! I only see what comes thru your posts. Merry Christmas and happy new year.

phillis's avatar

—You are so sweet! It doesn’t affect my self-esteem in any way. It’s from a medical condition! I just make jokes about it. I find it relieves the tension OTHER people feel. When I need (whatever you care to call them….plus sized, women’s, etc.) I always ask the store personnel, “Where do I find fat lady clothes in this store?” And they laugh their butts off! It’s a hoot for all of us :)

Dr_Dredd's avatar

UPDATE: I just bought a 42 inch Panasonic plasma TV at Best Buy! To be delivered on 1/9/10. Woohoo!!!!

phillis's avatar

YAY!! Good for you, DD :)

Brian1946's avatar

@Dr_Dredd

Congrats on your excellent new set!

Now you can watch the Troyless Steelers lose on a crystal-clear big screen! ;-)
JK- I guess they’d probably repeat if TP had been healthy this season.

I’m still watching my wife’s 19”, 20+ years old set. :p

Dr_Dredd's avatar

Grrr…. Steelers!!! Very disappointing this year.

Right now, I’m also watching on an old set. It’s from 1992, when they were still giving them away as an incentive to open a bank account. :-)

Tomfafa's avatar

@Dr_Dredd I’m bringing popcorn doc!

Dr_Dredd's avatar

@Tomfafa Why not? If we’re going to watch them lose, we might as well do it in style!

sndfreQ's avatar

@Dr_Dredd Nice! I have the 50” V10…it’s amazing :) Make sure to run the anti-image retention utility once in a while and you’ll be set…congrats!

p.s. If your set has the same advanced color management tools, you can look online for calibration settings that people have performed that are optimized for that set (for the “custom” color management setting).

Dr_Dredd's avatar

@sndfreQ I didn’t even know it had an anti-image retention utility. Thanks!

Dr_Dredd's avatar

Well, the Steelers won tonight! Barely. Let’s see what happens next…

reijinni's avatar

get LCD, plasma is wasteful.

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