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Girls in boys' peewee boxing?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) December 23rd, 2009

If the local peewee boxing league(6–11yrs)get pressured into allowing girls, would you tell your nephew to go easy one then should he draw a match with one the girls since they want to be in boys’ boxing and fight boys? Would you tell him to take her head off same as if she was just another opponent and not a girl? Would you feel any worse or better if he smacked her so hard she stopped fighting in the middle of the match and started crying?

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La_chica_gomela's avatar

There’s a problem with the question in the title: It’s not “boys” peewee boxing if there are girls in it. It’s co-ed.

“Would you feel any worse or better if he smacked her so hard she stopped fighting in the middle of the match and started crying?”

Give me a break. Would you feel any better or worse if your son smack a boy so hard they started crying?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@La_chica_gomela Of my son or nephew cleaned some kids clock and they stopped and started crying I would feel bad for the kid because he chose not finish the match, not because he was made to cry, his/her parents and coaches should have prepared him/her what a match is like and it might hurt if they are not good enough not to get hit.

stranger_in_a_strange_land's avatar

If they choose to play in the same league they must expect no different treatment. If a girl is going to act that way in a match she has no business being there. The match should go by default to her opponent.

La_chica_gomela's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central: So what’s the difference if it’s a boy or a girl. Each child who chooses to be there should be treated the same way, shouldn’t they?

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

At that age they are all equally as tough. Let ‘em play…

HumourMe's avatar

I agree with @Kelly_Obrien at that age both girls and boys have the same strength. I doubt either have even built any muscle yet, so they shoud both be treated equally.

PandoraBoxx's avatar

Why do we want children hitting eachother and risking brain damage?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@La_chica_gomela If they want to duke it out with the boys I say they take whatever lumps they get. However, some would argue even though they play with the boys (for the opportunity) that the boys should not pounce on them if there is an opening to do so. That it don’t look right for a boy to pummel a girl down like that, if ahead he should take it easy but not go for the knock down.

stranger_in_a_strange_land's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central They have to leave their gender at the ring’s edge or not enter in the first place.

La_chica_gomela's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central: Oh, I see: equality “doesn’t look right”. That’s a new one on me.

rooeytoo's avatar

When I was that age I could (and often did) beat up every boy in my neighborhood. I managed to live to tell the tale. Let her go and tell your nephew not to cry if a girl wins!

FireMadeFlesh's avatar

I am all for women and girls having equal rights. I would support women who want to join elite special forces teams in the army if they can cope with the demands. Somehow though, I cannot bring myself to enjoy seeing women belt each other up as sport. I would like to see a study done on women in combat sports and the prevalence of domestic violence, because I suspect a violent man who sees a fight between a young boy and girl may just expect his poor wife to defend himself.
If it was my son in the competition I am not a father, so this is purely hypothetical then I would encourage him to forfeit all bouts against girls. My opinion is that the girls should form a separate competition.

Jacket's avatar

I think that if girls do boxing they expect a punch now and then. That said, I don’t much support boxing as a sport at all.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@PandoraBoxx There are all sorts of kids in martial arts, and they can use their feet. At that age of boxing they are required to use head gear and really big gloves.

Kayak8's avatar

As long as they match the kids for size, what’s the big deal (if you are ok with the premise of folks learning to hit each other in the first place)? In the higher part of the age range (9–11 ish), girls will probably be boxing other girls as they may well be bigger than the boys of the same age and might hurt them.

Kids these days cry in art class for heaven’s sake, I certainly wouldn’t use tears as a barometer for anything . . .

fireinthepriory's avatar

I think that boxing in general is a terrible thing to let a child do. It teaches them that violence is not only acceptable, but that it is a GAME. I wouldn’t allow any child of mine to box.

SirGoofy's avatar

Where have I been?? They’re boxing peewees now? Geeez.

filmfann's avatar

I know a lot of girls that spend most of their lives boxing boy’s peewees.

drClaw's avatar

I think it is ok at the peewee level, but if your nephew continues boxing as a teen be sure to caution him against gym politics. The thing that I notice in certain gyms during training when a guy is sparring with a girl is if the senior, higher level members of the gym think you are being too rough then the will give you a hard time making training at that gym less fun and therefore less motivating. The real shame about gyms/people like this is that they are cheating the girls/women who come to train out of the best learning experience possible and unless they ask that you take it easy on them I don’t think there is any call for holding back.

sliceswiththings's avatar

And no boys have ever cried when hurt?

Teaching kids that it’s okay to hit anyone is a terrible message. Sign ‘em up for soccer.

drClaw's avatar

@sliceswiththings there is nothing wrong with peewee boxing, karate, or any other combat sport. In fact kids that learn these disciplines early are far less likely to get into fights at school. These are sports, just like soccer, in fact boxing is so complex that punching is merely a small portion of what is being taught, technical foot work, strength and conditioning, strategy and body movement are all far more important than simply throwing your arm out with a balled up hand. Be careful when you condemn something you don’t understand it makes you sound ignorant.

tinyfaery's avatar

Has no one ever seen the movie Girlfight?

I think boxing is just accepted violence and no one should participate. But, gender shouldn’t matter as long as they are in the same weight class with comprable capabilities.

Jude's avatar

I think that boxing is a stupid sport. Female against female, female against male, and male against male. It’s just plain dumb.

That’s all that I have to say about that. <<Forest Gump voice>>

sliceswiththings's avatar

@drClaw I don’t not understand it; I base my opposition to it on kids I know who use their “combat” abilities outside of the classroom on other children. Others simply use their knowledge of such technique to threaten other children. I once babysat a kid who did boxing who would get into his stance and ball up his fists whenever he got mad. I can see how it can be good exercise, but if it’s exercise you’re after there are ways to get it that have no correlation whether you believe it or not to violence and/or anger management.

rooeytoo's avatar

What sport doesn’t include violence? There are no contact sports such as soccer or basketball, yeah right.

I was thinking about this and the violence in sport is real, you get hit, you feel the pain, you are aware there are consequences, you see the other kid cry, whatever. When children are exposed to the violence on television or video games, they feel nothing and the dead guy is back on television the next day or reappears good as new when you hit restart on the game.

You cannot eliminate violence from the world so I think it is better for a kid to know that actions have consequences. That is a lesson all should learn and the younger the better.

tinyfaery's avatar

So because we can’t eliminate it we have to participate? Now, what’s the logical conclusion?

rooeytoo's avatar

life is not a spectator sport!

tinyfaery's avatar

Okay. I can’t get rid of drug addicts so I’ll just become one, or a murderer or a Republican. I can’t just let it pass me by.

rooeytoo's avatar

Interesting logic?

But hey, if it works for you, I hear selling drugs is quite lucrative.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@sliceswiththings If a kid who is in boxing or martial arts takes a hostile stance to intimidate or threaten, he was not coached or instructed very well. If he was he would never do that. Part of the dicipline is not to tip your hand to your oppoment.

drClaw's avatar

@sliceswiththings You’re right.. We should just get rid of martial arts, boxing, wrestling, football, rugby, and other contact sports because this is how we can bring peace on earth. It doesn’t matter that if taught right they can help an aggressive child (or adult) control their anger, it doesn’t’ matter that these sports are forms of expression and it definitely doesn’t matter that they change the lives of people for the better because you have had an experience with one child who was taught improperly or maybe is still learning.

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